[opensuse-wiki] <console> extension
yaloki suggested this for opensuse-community.org, and implemented it some time ago, and I think it's been a really great idea. How about having a <console> tag to differentiate when something should be put into a console? At the moment the current method (i.e. where you just leave a space on a newline) is being used in many different ways, so it's not instantly clear that it's terminal input all the time (to a new user). An example of this in action: http://opensuse-community.org/Amarok Very easy to implement, just a little CSS. Thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net)
Francis Giannaros wrote:
yaloki suggested this for opensuse-community.org, and implemented it some time ago, and I think it's been a really great idea. How about having a <console> tag to differentiate when something should be put into a console?
At the moment the current method (i.e. where you just leave a space on a newline) is being used in many different ways, so it's not instantly clear that it's terminal input all the time (to a new user).
An example of this in action: http://opensuse-community.org/Amarok
Very easy to implement, just a little CSS. Thoughts?
Regards,
simple template? your model is very difficult to read (white letters too slim to be seen on black) but it's a good idea jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci - vote for us, thanks :-) http://musique.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/Magic-Alliance/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 12:06, jdd wrote: Hi,
Francis Giannaros wrote:
yaloki suggested this for opensuse-community.org, and implemented it some time ago, and I think it's been a really great idea. How about having a <console> tag to differentiate when something should be put into a console?
At the moment the current method (i.e. where you just leave a space on a newline) is being used in many different ways, so it's not instantly clear that it's terminal input all the time (to a new user).
I agree and think it's a good idea.
simple template?
Just a simple _CSS style_
your model is very difficult to read (white letters too slim to be seen on black)
yes, that style is indeed hard to read. Anyone having a better suggestion? Once we agree on a layout, I will add a style to the css file. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.novell.com/ "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 16:44, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
simple template?
Just a simple _CSS style_
Right. :)
yes, that style is indeed hard to read. Anyone having a better suggestion? Once we agree on a layout, I will add a style to the css file.
I agree too that black isn't ideal, but it does meet one objective at least -- the user knows for sure that it needs to go on the command line. Another thing I thought is that you could use any background colour, but have all lines prefixed with a $. An example of this is here: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/useradmin.html#useradmin I'm not sure about which implementation is better myself. One thing of source is that the $, if implemented, should be done as a background-image or css "content" (though I believe that doesn't work in IE; bleh), so that when you select multiple commands, it isn't selected. Thoughts? -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Francis Giannaros wrote:
I agree too that black isn't ideal, but it does meet one objective at least -- the user knows for sure that it needs to go on the command line.
you just have to make your white letters bold to be able to read them jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci - vote for us, thanks :-) http://musique.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/Magic-Alliance/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 18:53, jdd wrote: Hi,
Francis Giannaros wrote:
I agree too that black isn't ideal, but it does meet one objective at least -- the user knows for sure that it needs to go on the command line.
you just have to make your white letters bold to be able to read them
like this? http://en.opensuse.org/Console_extension Regards Frank -- Frank Sundermeyer, SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.suse.de/ Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:45 +0100, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 18:53, jdd wrote: Hi,
Francis Giannaros wrote:
I agree too that black isn't ideal, but it does meet one objective at least -- the user knows for sure that it needs to go on the command line.
you just have to make your white letters bold to be able to read them
like this? http://en.opensuse.org/Console_extension
I actually liked your first suggestion better, i don't know what's so seriously wrong with it?! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 18 January 2007 16:45:52 Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 18:53, jdd wrote: Hi,
Francis Giannaros wrote:
I agree too that black isn't ideal, but it does meet one objective at least -- the user knows for sure that it needs to go on the command line.
you just have to make your white letters bold to be able to read them
like this? http://en.opensuse.org/Console_extension
That's good I think. Could we implement it? Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 11:27, Francis Giannaros wrote:
yaloki suggested this for opensuse-community.org, and implemented it some time ago, and I think it's been a really great idea. How about having a <console> tag to differentiate when something should be put into a console?
At the moment the current method (i.e. where you just leave a space on a newline) is being used in many different ways, so it's not instantly clear that it's terminal input all the time (to a new user).
So a new way will make it easier? :-) But i agree, when we have a console extension or template, and nobody uses it for something else, we would have a better separation.
An example of this in action: http://opensuse-community.org/Amarok
Very easy to implement, just a little CSS. Thoughts?
What i don't like is that black background, this alone gives me a headache. But the dotted line around it makes me cry ... But i'm up for it, with other colors and a full or no line instead of a dotted one :-) -- with kind regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg martin.lasarsch@suse.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- simply change to www.suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 12:49, Martin Lasarsch wrote:
So a new way will make it easier? :-)
Perhaps not for new wiki adders, but certainly for new (or even previous) wiki readers.
What i don't like is that black background, this alone gives me a headache. But the dotted line around it makes me cry ...
Indeed, I don't like the black background on my consoles and in fact I never have it enabled, but I can't think of any other colour as a background that instantly tells you that it's a console. Investigated with a few greys, but they weren't ideal. Regards, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
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