[opensuse] 11.1 install question
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop. What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome? Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Mark Hounschell
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.or
Mark, Is there a way to select the session type on your KDE3 login screen? (If it's there it would be in the lower left corner of your screen.) Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Boris Epstein wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Mark Hounschell
wrote: I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.or
Mark,
Is there a way to select the session type on your KDE3 login screen? (If it's there it would be in the lower left corner of your screen.)
Boris.
Hey, it's almost too dim to see, but yes it's there and works. It's been a long time since I had to click that button. Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Mark Hounschell
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
It has been suggested (I cannot cite the source) that doing a *minimal* install, ie: text mode, and then applying the package groups you wish can achieve this. For some reason all reports here of doing one-step complete system installs fails to provide *only* the packages one wishes or intends. Probably relates somehow to the package groups. Note that I have not installed ll.1, but read the list. :^) gud luk, -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
Thanks Mark
Answer: UNKNOWN I installed 11.1 carefully selecting kde 3.5 and logged on for the first time and I was starring at the kde4 desktop. Others have reported similar to your experience. After my experience, I can't remember if I just selected kde3 from the kdm menu or changed the startx script from /usr/bin/startkde to /opt/kde3/bin/startkde I think you can simple use yast to remove gdm and install kdm if it isn't installed already. Then, someone else will have to chime in on where the setting is in /etc/sysconfig or /etc/X11 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2/11/09, David C. Rankin
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
Thanks Mark
Answer: UNKNOWN
I installed 11.1 carefully selecting kde 3.5 and logged on for the first time and I was starring at the kde4 desktop. Others have reported similar to your experience.
After my experience, I can't remember if I just selected kde3 from the kdm menu or changed the startx script from /usr/bin/startkde to /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
I think you can simple use yast to remove gdm and install kdm if it isn't installed already. Then, someone else will have to chime in on where the setting is in /etc/sysconfig or /etc/X11
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Strange bug huh? Anyways, will people stop getting fired up over which KDE Version is better? Both have their pos and cons; this thread is to help Mark, not to argue over which version... If you want, I can start a thread like that and you can see the results - 30+ emails per day... Allen Registered Linux User 484485 (http://counter.li.org/) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Allen Zhu wrote:
On 2/11/09, David C. Rankin
wrote: Mark Hounschell wrote:
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
Thanks Mark Answer: UNKNOWN
I installed 11.1 carefully selecting kde 3.5 and logged on for the first time and I was starring at the kde4 desktop. Others have reported similar to your experience.
After my experience, I can't remember if I just selected kde3 from the kdm menu or changed the startx script from /usr/bin/startkde to /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
I think you can simple use yast to remove gdm and install kdm if it isn't installed already. Then, someone else will have to chime in on where the setting is in /etc/sysconfig or /etc/X11
Strange bug huh?
Anyways, will people stop getting fired up over which KDE Version is better? Both have their pos and cons; this thread is to help Mark, not to argue over which version...
If you want, I can start a thread like that and you can see the results - 30+ emails per day...
Allen
Registered Linux User 484485 (http://counter.li.org/)
Allen, Will you please *read* back through the post and point out where any comparison has been made between the merits, or lack thereof, between kde4 or kde3? I read your response and was left thinking, WTF is this guy talking about? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 15:52 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
Thanks Mark
Answer: UNKNOWN
I installed 11.1 carefully selecting kde 3.5 and logged on for the first time and I was starring at the kde4 desktop. Others have reported similar to your experience.
After my experience, I can't remember if I just selected kde3 from the kdm menu or changed the startx script from /usr/bin/startkde to /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
I think you can simple use yast to remove gdm and install kdm if it isn't installed already. Then, someone else will have to chime in on where the setting is in /etc/sysconfig or /etc/X11
From what I have experienced doing a few 11.1 installs, there is a good bit of KDE4 included in even the minimum KDE3 install. I have found that the failsafe desktop looks more like KDE4 than it does KDE3, and a kdesu konqueror produces the DKE4 Konqueor not the KDE3 Konqueror. YMMV. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 15:19, Mark Hounschell wrote:
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome? HELLO>!!! are you KDE4 boys out there listening... ??
... what is the trick to having KDE3, no gnome, ... and a clean install ? WHAT DOES THAT T E L L Y O U ? (probably nothing) Maybe KDE4 isn't ready. Maybe folks don't like KDE4. Maybe KDE4 development needs to kick some booty and get that thing fixed... I don't know... been wrong before... PS. I'm a KDE3 fan who is not happy with KDE4. :| -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
M Harris wrote:
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 15:19, Mark Hounschell wrote:
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome? HELLO>!!! are you KDE4 boys out there listening... ??
... what is the trick to having KDE3, no gnome, ... and a clean install ?
WHAT DOES THAT T E L L Y O U ? (probably nothing)
Maybe KDE4 isn't ready. Maybe folks don't like KDE4. Maybe KDE4 development needs to kick some booty and get that thing fixed... I don't know... been wrong before...
PS. I'm a KDE3 fan who is not happy with KDE4. :|
For anyone that can actually help with my inquiry, I really just want to know the trick. My intent is not to fire up anyone on this KDE3 vs KDE4 subject. The install gave me a choice. I made it. I got something else. Thats all there is to it. How do I get what I choose?? Thanks and Regards Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 03:41:07 pm Mark Hounschell wrote:
M Harris wrote:
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 15:19, Mark Hounschell wrote:
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
HELLO>!!! are you KDE4 boys out there listening... ??
... what is the trick to having KDE3, no gnome, ... and a clean install ?
WHAT DOES THAT T E L L Y O U ? (probably nothing)
Maybe KDE4 isn't ready. Maybe folks don't like KDE4. Maybe KDE4 development needs to kick some booty and get that thing fixed... I don't know... been wrong before...
PS. I'm a KDE3 fan who is not happy with KDE4. :|
For anyone that can actually help with my inquiry, I really just want to know the trick. My intent is not to fire up anyone on this KDE3 vs KDE4 subject. The install gave me a choice. I made it. I got something else. Thats all there is to it. How do I get what I choose??
Thanks and Regards Mark
Why not just add kde3 and delete kde4? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 15:41, Mark Hounschell wrote:
For anyone that can actually help with my inquiry, I really just want to know the trick. My intent is not to fire up anyone on this KDE3 vs KDE4 subject. The install gave me a choice. I made it. I got something else. Thats all there is to it. How do I get what I choose?? For a clean install, no gnome, and KDE3 please install opensuse 10.0/
I have it running on 14 systems... works great... (ever tried KUbuntu?) (sorry, somebody will answer soon... I'm just blowing off steam... been a long day already) -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 03:19:09 pm Mark Hounschell wrote:
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
Thanks Mark
I selected KDE3 during installation, ie. initially I did not touch package selection, and it installed KDE3 with kdm as login manager. Maybe it installed some KDE4 and GNOME applications, or better to say GTk, like Firefox and GIMP, but it was KDE3 desktop. Later I added KDE4 and few more applications CLI, KDE3/4, GNOME, which ended in almost all of GNOME installed (including defunct Metacity), so I can't say for sure what was there from "foreign" applications, but for sure there was no mess with login manager and default desktop as some people are reporting. IMHO, dependency issues are problem. I had trouble to get rid of evolution data server. It seems that every other GNOME package needs it ;-) I don't use Evolution, but I don't mind if it is installed, and removal was just a exercise, how to remove something that shouldn't be installed in a first place. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/02/11 16:19 (GMT-0500) Mark Hounschell composed:
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
I don't know if it ever got resolved. It never happened to me, but http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg02336.html starts the thread where probably most here first heard of it. I asked for KDE3 and got it: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg02418.html -- "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up." Ephesians 4:29 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/02/11 16:19 (GMT-0500) Mark Hounschell composed:
I've done a clean install of 11.1. I selected kde 3.5 instead of kde 4.x. At the logon I have gdm not kdm. I login and I have a gnome Desktop, not a kde desktop? I changed the display manager in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager from gdm to kdm the ran SuSEconfig. Then I rebooted. I got kdm but still have a gnome desktop.
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
I don't know if it ever got resolved. It never happened to me, but http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg02336.html starts the thread where probably most here first heard of it. I asked for KDE3 and got it: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg02418.html
Oh Yes, I remember those threads. That was back when Randall didn't know what he was doing ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday February 11 2009, David C. Rankin wrote:
...
I don't know if it ever got resolved. It never happened to me, but http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg02336.html starts the thread where probably most here first heard of it. I asked for KDE3 and got it: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg02418.html
Oh Yes,
I remember those threads. That was back when Randall didn't know what he was doing ;-)
Don't you start...
-- David C. Rankin
RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
What is the trick to doing a clean install and having kde 3.5 as my desktop with NO gnome?
it's probably not possible to acheive with openSUSE. Installing kde3 gives also some kde4 and gnome apps and library. I installed a new openSUSE 11.1 yestaerday and asked for kde3.5 on the install menu. I noted then that on start *no default desktop* was selected on the kdm screen (the half visible bottom left menu), and if one starts, by default, the the system launch kde4 The bug is probably there: not setting the default start to kde3.5 of course after clicking on the kde3.5 checkbox, I have kde3.5... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Allen Zhu
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Boris Epstein
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David C. Rankin
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Felix Miata
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jdd
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M Harris
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Mark Hounschell
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Mike McMullin
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Patrick Shanahan
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Rajko M.
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Randall R Schulz
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rschwedler