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Dave Moskovitz

15 Oct 2005 15 Oct '05

02:17

Hello ... Can anyone tell me where I can find the postgresql-server packages for suse linux 10.0? They don't appear to be on the installation CD's or mirror sites, but are referenced by http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/postgresql-server.... Thanks Dave -- Dave Moskovitz Director, Thinktank Consulting Limited dave@thinktank.co.nz / Tel +64 27 220 2202

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Art Fore

15 Oct 15 Oct

02:10

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player. Art On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 15:17 +1300, Dave Moskovitz wrote:

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Hello ...

Can anyone tell me where I can find the postgresql-server packages for suse linux 10.0? They don't appear to be on the installation CD's or mirror sites, but are referenced by http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/postgresql-server....

Thanks Dave

-- Dave Moskovitz Director, Thinktank Consulting Limited dave@thinktank.co.nz / Tel +64 27 220 2202

Randall R Schulz

04:03

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Art, On Friday 14 October 2005 19:10, Art Fore wrote:

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.

And still you will not find this package. The fragmented nature of the 10.0 distribution is by far its most unpleasant aspect. The inconsistencies between what's listed as available from Guru's RPM and Packman vs. what can be installed via those repositories' YaST counterparts are also annoying.

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Art

Randall Schulz

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On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 15:17 +1300, Dave Moskovitz wrote:

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Hello ...

Can anyone tell me where I can find the postgresql-server packages for suse linux 10.0? They don't appear to be on the installation CD's or mirror sites, but are referenced by http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/postgresq l-server.html

Thanks Dave

Art Fore

05:49

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On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 21:03 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Art,

On Friday 14 October 2005 19:10, Art Fore wrote:

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.

And still you will not find this package.

The fragmented nature of the 10.0 distribution is by far its most unpleasant aspect.

The inconsistencies between what's listed as available from Guru's RPM and Packman vs. what can be installed via those repositories' YaST counterparts are also annoying.

What about ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso/ This contains the dvd isos for the various architectures. Art

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Art

Randall Schulz

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On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 15:17 +1300, Dave Moskovitz wrote:

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Hello ...

Can anyone tell me where I can find the postgresql-server packages for suse linux 10.0? They don't appear to be on the installation CD's or mirror sites, but are referenced by http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/postgresq l-server.html

Thanks Dave

Randall R Schulz

06:45

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Art, On Friday 14 October 2005 22:49, Art Fore wrote:

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On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 21:03 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Art,

On Friday 14 October 2005 19:10, Art Fore wrote:

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.

And still you will not find this package.

The fragmented nature of the 10.0 distribution is by far its most unpleasant aspect.

The inconsistencies between what's listed as available from Guru's RPM and Packman vs. what can be installed via those repositories' YaST counterparts are also annoying.

What about ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso/ This contains the dvd isos for the various architectures.

Well, many of the key servers are a moving target at best. E.g., Eberhard told us to use ftp4.gwdg.de instead of ftp.gwdg.de, but now it's failing to respond or responding with errors. The original server, ftp.gwdg.de is still working, but rather slow (but nowhere near as bad as it was a week ago, of course). And the high-bandwidth, nearby servers such as mirrors.kernel.org do not have the full complement of packages. I really think the number of repositories one must configure to get at the full complement of packages available to purchasers of the commercial (boxed) distribution is a sign of poor planning. There really seems to be no reason for it to be like this. And finding out now that Amazon.com has not been supplied enough boxes to fulfill it sales commitments just adds insult to injury. Randall Schulz

david rankin

15:05

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On Saturday 15 October 2005 01:45, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Art,

On Friday 14 October 2005 22:49, Art Fore wrote:

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On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 21:03 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Art,

On Friday 14 October 2005 19:10, Art Fore wrote:

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.

And still you will not find this package.

The fragmented nature of the 10.0 distribution is by far its most unpleasant aspect.

The inconsistencies between what's listed as available from Guru's RPM and Packman vs. what can be installed via those repositories' YaST counterparts are also annoying.

What about ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso/ This contains the dvd isos for the various architectures.

Well, many of the key servers are a moving target at best. E.g., Eberhard told us to use ftp4.gwdg.de instead of ftp.gwdg.de, but now it's failing to respond or responding with errors. The original server, ftp.gwdg.de is still working, but rather slow (but nowhere near as bad as it was a week ago, of course). And the high-bandwidth, nearby servers such as mirrors.kernel.org do not have the full complement of packages.

I really think the number of repositories one must configure to get at the full complement of packages available to purchasers of the commercial (boxed) distribution is a sign of poor planning. There really seems to be no reason for it to be like this.

And finding out now that Amazon.com has not been supplied enough boxes to fulfill it sales commitments just adds insult to injury.

Randall Schulz

Randall, all: I have found this to be a problem as well. I was finally able to pick and choose enough install sources to get everything installed, but it was a difficult process. I too found that a number of the OSS mirrors were only partial mirrors. On some mirrors, the bandwidth was so slow it took 40 minutes just to read the package lists into yast. While this isn't a complaint, we can definitely do better. I think the split between suse 10 and opensuse 10 and the different mirrors and iso, torrent, and ftp install options have been challenging for many of the long time users, not to mention the new additions. All in all I think it will settle down after all the mirrors are fully synchronized. It may make sense for the next release to "pre-load" and synchronize all mirrors before opening up the downloads to the world. This would eliminate the overwhelming demand on the few complete servers and the confusion caused when somebody new hits an incomplete mirror and gets frustrated wondering why they can't find package X. The shear demand and number of servers that need to be preloaded is kind of a "your a victim of your own success" issue. But it is definitely doable. I see it as a good thing. The howls we are hearing on the SLE list are nothing compared to the howls on the mandriva list. Kind of funny actually. Oh well, that's my $.02 for the day.......... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 www.rankinlawfirm.com

Syv Ritch

15:29

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david rankin wrote:

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I have found this to be a problem as well. I was finally able to pick and choose enough install sources to get everything installed, but it was a difficult process.

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Oh well, that's my $.02 for the day..........

Can you make you $.02 more valuable to us, the average joe six-pak, to at least a full dollar by giving us a list of these mirrors. -- Thanks http://www.911networks.com When the network has to work Cisco/Microsoft

Randall R Schulz

15:38

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Syv, On Saturday 15 October 2005 08:29, Syv Ritch wrote:

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Can you make you $.02 more valuable to us, the average joe six-pak, to at least a full dollar by giving us a list of these mirrors.

It's been posted here again and again. http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/ftp/mirrors_isos.html Randall Schulz

Dave Moskovitz

16 Oct 16 Oct

00:53

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Given that we pay for bandwidth in NZ, I'm not keen to download a whole DVD just to get a couple of packages. Are there any places where I can just pick and choose from specific the specific packages rather than entire isos? Thanks again, Dave On Saturday 15 Oct 2005 15:10, Art Fore wrote:

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.

Art

On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 15:17 +1300, Dave Moskovitz wrote:

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Hello ...

Can anyone tell me where I can find the postgresql-server packages for suse linux 10.0? They don't appear to be on the installation CD's or mirror sites, but are referenced by http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/postgresql-serv er.html

Thanks Dave

-- Dave Moskovitz Director, Thinktank Consulting Limited dave@thinktank.co.nz / Tel +64 27 220 2202

-- Dave Moskovitz Director, Thinktank Consulting Limited dave@thinktank.co.nz / Tel +64 27 220 2202

Patrick Shanahan

01:08

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* Dave Moskovitz [10-15-05 19:56]:

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Given that we pay for bandwidth in NZ, I'm not keen to download a whole DVD just to get a couple of packages.

Are there any places where I can just pick and choose from specific the specific packages rather than entire isos?

EVERYTHING on the iso's is available via ftp from a SUSE mirror. Open lftp or your choice to mirror, find the package you want and dl it. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

Patrick Shanahan

01:26

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* Patrick Shanahan [10-15-05 20:08]:

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* Dave Moskovitz [10-15-05 19:56]:

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Given that we pay for bandwidth in NZ, I'm not keen to download a whole DVD just to get a couple of packages.

Are there any places where I can just pick and choose from specific the specific packages rather than entire isos?

EVERYTHING on the iso's is available via ftp from a SUSE mirror. Open lftp or your choice to mirror, find the package you want and dl it.

CORRECTION: The above statement *was* true prior to 10.0, but does not appear to be so since ???? :^( -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

Patrick Shanahan

01:47

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* Dave Moskovitz [10-15-05 19:56]:

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On Saturday 15 Oct 2005 15:10, Art Fore wrote:

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.

It is *not* on the dvd iso that I dl'ed.

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Given that we pay for bandwidth in NZ, I'm not keen to download a whole DVD just to get a couple of packages.

not to worry. The package "postgresql-server" is *not* on the 10.0-GM iso that I dl'ed.

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Are there any places where I can just pick and choose from specific the specific packages rather than entire isos?

I have been unable to find it. AND, Novell does not provide a link to it. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

Dave Moskovitz

02:16

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I've found copies at http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/su... and http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse... ... Neither seems to be blindingly fast ... and it makes me wonder what I'm missing out on with my CD isos! Thanks for the help. On Sunday 16 Oct 2005 14:47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Dave Moskovitz [10-15-05 19:56]:

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On Saturday 15 Oct 2005 15:10, Art Fore wrote:

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I installed it from the 10.0 DVD, but I don't think it is on the CD. You can point the Yast Installation source to the suse ftp site if you do not have a DVD player.

It is *not* on the dvd iso that I dl'ed.

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Given that we pay for bandwidth in NZ, I'm not keen to download a whole DVD just to get a couple of packages.

not to worry. The package "postgresql-server" is *not* on the 10.0-GM iso that I dl'ed.

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Are there any places where I can just pick and choose from specific the specific packages rather than entire isos?

I have been unable to find it.

AND, Novell does not provide a link to it. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

-- Dave Moskovitz Director, Thinktank Consulting Limited dave@thinktank.co.nz / Tel +64 27 220 2202

Patrick Shanahan

02:23

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* Dave Moskovitz [10-15-05 21:19]:

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I've found copies at

http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/su... and http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse... ...

Neither seems to be blindingly fast ... and it makes me wonder what I'm missing out on with my CD isos!

note that these are both on the OSS distro and *not* on the GM. WHY!? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

Carl Hartung

02:43

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On Saturday 15 October 2005 21:47, Patrick Shanahan wrote: <snip>

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not to worry. The package "postgresql-server" is *not* on the 10.0-GM iso that I dl'ed.

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Are there any places where I can just pick and choose from specific the specific packages rather than entire isos?

I have been unable to find it.

AND, Novell does not provide a link to it.

Courtesy of Google: Novell Cool Solutions Tip: Packages Only on the Dual Layered DVD of SUSE Linux 10.0 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16076.html [Excerpt] "This document only applies the the retail version of SUSE Linux 10.0. It does not apply to the OSS (Open Source Software) version of SUSE Linux 10.0. This comparison was done between the 5 CD set and the dual layered DVD, which ship with the retail version of the product. To get a obtain the same software as contained on the dual layered DVD (minus the closed source components), but for the OSS version, you would need to point to one of the OSS mirrors." ... (from list) postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm postfix-postgresql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm postgresql-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm postgresql-contrib-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm postgresql-devel-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm postgresql-docs-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm postgresql-pl-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm postgresql-server-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm potrace-1.7-4.i586.rpm ... [/Excerpt] also: Novell Cool Solutions Tip: Packages on the retail version and not the OSS version of SUSE Linux 10.0 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16015.html [Excerpt] "There are two versions of SUSE Linux 10.0. One is the retail (box purchase) version known as SUSE Linux 10.0, and the other is the free downloadable version, which is known as SUSE Linux OSS 10.0. The retail version can contain closed source packages. Since OSS stands for Open Source Software, the OSS version does not contain closed source software." [/Excerpt] Note: This page contains what looks to be a complete listing of the retail only packages. And, finally, an excerpt from the directory listing of: (use mirror - slow!) http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/su... [Excerpt] postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 21:36 44K postfix-postgresql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 21:36 43K postgresql-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 1.0M postgresql-contrib-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 444K postgresql-debuginfo-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 7.7M postgresql-devel-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 670K postgresql-docs-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 867K postgresql-libs-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 183K postgresql-pl-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 13-Sep-2005 04:00 56K postgresql-server-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 3.5M potrace-1.7-4.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 18:20-86K [/Excerpt] regards, - Carl

James Finnegan

17 Oct 17 Oct

15:44

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Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Saturday 15 October 2005 21:47, Patrick Shanahan wrote: <snip>

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not to worry. The package "postgresql-server" is *not* on the 10.0-GM iso that I dl'ed.

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Novell Cool Solutions Tip: Packages on the retail version and not the OSS version of SUSE Linux 10.0 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16015.html

[Excerpt] "There are two versions of SUSE Linux 10.0. One is the retail (box purchase) version known as SUSE Linux 10.0, and the other is the free downloadable version, which is known as SUSE Linux OSS 10.0. The retail version can contain closed source packages. Since OSS stands for Open Source Software, the OSS version does not contain closed source software." [/Excerpt] Note: This page contains what looks to be a complete listing of the retail only packages.

And, finally, an excerpt from the directory listing of: (use mirror - slow!) http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/su...

[Excerpt] postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 21:36 44K postfix-postgresql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 21:36 43K postgresql-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 1.0M postgresql-contrib-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 444K postgresql-debuginfo-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 7.7M postgresql-devel-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 670K postgresql-docs-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 867K postgresql-libs-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 183K postgresql-pl-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 13-Sep-2005 04:00 56K postgresql-server-8.0.3-5.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 20:28 3.5M potrace-1.7-4.i586.rpm 09-Sep-2005 18:20-86K [/Excerpt]

regards,

- Carl

Took me a long time to figure out, but I think I have got it now. 1) Many of the mirrors are incomplete, this includes the one on mirrors.kernel.org 2) Many packages that have nothing to do with Java are in the inst-source-java directory For install sources that work well for me, and make sure you have both: ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source-java/ as well as the packman site. Hope this help, James

Carl Hartung

17:27

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On Monday 17 October 2005 11:44, James Finnegan wrote: <snippage>

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as well as the packman site.

Hope this help,

Thanks, James. The OP actually /did/ manage to find what he was looking for, but maybe this will help clear up someone else's confusion. ;-) regards, - Carl

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