On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 12:22:57PM -0500, Michael Galloway wrote:

Hi Pieter!

how about here:

http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/

-- michael

What about SuSE 8.1? Is SuSE 8.1 pretty much not supported by this point? -- Jim Norton - http://www.jimnorton.org 2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2 - Never argue with an idiot. - - He'll just lower you to his - -level and then beat you with experience.-

On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 12:35:11AM +0100, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

* Jim Norton [Feb 03. 2004 18:37]:

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how about here:

http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/

What about SuSE 8.1? Is SuSE 8.1 pretty much not supported by this point?

Yes, there's an update for 8.1 as well. Why do you ask here instead of checking yourself?

I did check at that FTP site and found only 8.2 and 9.0. I also checked the SuSE website and went to the KDE section.. still had only 3.1.95.. Where does the update for 8.1 live? Are you having a bad day? -- Jim Norton - http://www.jimnorton.org 2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2 - Never argue with an idiot. - - He'll just lower you to his - -level and then beat you with experience.-

* Mads Martin Joergensen [Feb 04. 2004 08:50]:

ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.1/base

ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.1/ Scratch the base part. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

On Wednesday 04 February 2004 01.17, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 6:35 pm, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

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* Jim Norton [Feb 03. 2004 18:37]:

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how about here:

http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/

The ftp site has a large collection of packages. I wonder -- is there any automated method for updating just those packages that I already have installed from an earlier version of KDE?

First method: install red carpet and let it upgrade for you. I just did, it was a one-click upgrade Second method: rpm -Fvh http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/*.rpm Note the F instead of U. F is the same as U except only packages already installed will be upgraded

On Wednesday 04 February 2004 01.42, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 7:19 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Wednesday 04 February 2004 01.17, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

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The ftp site has a large collection of packages. I wonder -- is there any automated method for updating just those packages that I already have installed from an earlier version of KDE?

First method: install red carpet and let it upgrade for you. I just did, it was a one-click upgrade

Could you provide a pointer to red carpet?

http://www-files.ximian.com/redcarpet2/suse-90-i586/ get the rcd and rug rpms and install them. Then start rcd with /etc/init.d/rcd start Then, as root, run "rug install red-carpet". Answer "y" when it asks you if it's ok. Then once it's finished you can start the gui with "red-carpet". To get the suse rpms to show up, do "rug service-add http://open-carpet.org" (or add that service through the GUI). Then you'll see a bunch of channels show up. From them, select KDE, and you should see all the kde packages available for update. The above steps are just for the initial installation. In future, when there's new updates available, you'll be presented with them when you start red-carpet, so you can just hit "update all" and be done with it.

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Second method: rpm -Fvh http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/*.rpm

I tried that and got:

suillus:/home/pwa # rpm -Fvh http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ ix86/9.0/*.rpm error: File not found by glob: http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ ix86/9.0/*.rpm

OK, yeah, the path would have to be to the exact location of the rpms, I guess that would be something like .../9.0/base/*.rpm or .../9.0/applications/*.rpm

On Wednesday 04 February 2004 02.35, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 7:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

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Second method: rpm -Fvh http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/*.rpm

I tried that and got:

suillus:/home/pwa # rpm -Fvh http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/

SuSE/

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ix86/9.0/*.rpm error: File not found by glob: http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ ix86/9.0/*.rpm

OK, yeah, the path would have to be to the exact location of the rpms, I

guess

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that would be something like .../9.0/base/*.rpm or .../9.0/applications/

*.rpm

The 9.0 directory doesn't have any subdirectories, only rpms. Specifying just that directory without the "*.rpm" doesn't work either. Any ideas on how to get around that?

Oh, I'm sorry, I just realised that the url is a http. http doesn't support wildcards. Try ftp instead

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 7:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

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First method: install red carpet and let it upgrade for you. I just did, it was a one-click upgrade

Could you provide a pointer to red carpet?

http://www-files.ximian.com/redcarpet2/suse-90-i586/

get the rcd and rug rpms and install them. Then start rcd with

/etc/init.d/rcd start

Then, as root, run "rug install red-carpet". Answer "y" when it asks you if it's ok. Then once it's finished you can start the gui with "red-carpet".

I tried that and got: suillus:/usr/local/downloads # rug install red-carpet ERROR: Unable to find package 'red-carpet' in any subscribed channel Any suggestions on what I need to do to help rug find red-carpet? Paul Abrahams

Op woensdag 4 februari 2004 01:19, schreef Anders Johansson:

First method: install red carpet and let it upgrade for you. I just did, it was a one-click upgrade

Second method: rpm -Fvh http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/*.rpm

Note the F instead of U. F is the same as U except only packages already installed will be upgraded

Anders, it always surprises me that you forget to mention the other methods 3 and 4, repectively; apt and fou4s. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:17:09 -0500 "Paul W. Abrahams" wrote:

The ftp site has a large collection of packages. I wonder -- is there any automated method for updating just those packages that I already have installed from an earlier version of KDE?

apt4suse http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 15:55, yep@osterbo-net.dk wrote:

Tirsdag 03 februar 2004 18:28 skrev Jim Norton:

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On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 12:22:57PM -0500, Michael Galloway wrote:

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Hi Pieter!

how about here:

http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/

-- michael

What about SuSE 8.1? Is SuSE 8.1 pretty much not supported by this point?

To my recolection they support a release say 8.1 for 2 years with security patches or major "problems".

Correct me if I'm wrong (any of you).

You are, but only in the context of this KDE question, not in general. KDE yast upgrades are available. ------------------------------repost follows Hello everyone, I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list. Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2. ----------------------------end-repost -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 04:57 pm, Matt Jurcich wrote:

Hey,

A bit new to SuSE myself, but shouldn't they be pushing 3.2 and other new versions through YOU? Or is YOU used only for patches while users still have to go manually find and update to whole new versions?

Thanks for any clarification on this.

I am only a user.... not an SuSE person, but my guess would be that YOU updates are provided for security fixes and major other fixes only. YOU is not there for major "Gee I wish I had the latest and greatest and if it breaks everything I have I'm going to scream like hell" types of updates. They don't have the time or the resources or the need to provide same.

-m

Michael Galloway wrote:

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Hi Pieter!

how about here:

http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/

-- michael

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:

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Hello all,

I've tried to download KDE 3.2 from ftp.suse.com, but keep on losing connection there, and none of the mirrors I've tried seems to have it. Anyone care to chip in on where this can be downloaded for SuSE 8.2?

Regards,

Pieter Hulshoff

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* Matt Jurcich; on 03 Feb, 2004 wrote:

Hey,

A bit new to SuSE myself, but shouldn't they be pushing 3.2 and other new versions through YOU? Or is YOU used only for patches while users still have to go manually find and update to whole new versions?

Thanks for any clarification on this.

http://susefaq.sourceforge.net/faq/software.html clarifies SUSE policy -- Togan Muftuoglu | Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer | Please reply to the list; http://susefaq.sf.net | Please don't put me in TO/CC. Nisi defectum, haud refiecendum

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 12:57, Matt Jurcich wrote:

Hey,

A bit new to SuSE myself, but shouldn't they be pushing 3.2 and other new versions through YOU? Or is YOU used only for patches while users still have to go manually find and update to whole new versions?

Thanks for any clarification on this.

-m

Mike Sacco posted this clue on how to get KDE Updated via Yast many months ago and As far as I know it's still valid... I ALWAYS use this method and it has always worked for me. You have to change the version number a bit. ALSO note that this works for the mirrors which are often faster . ---------------REPOST --------------------------------------------- Hello everyone, I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list. Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2. -----------------end repost -------------- -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

is there any freebsd option, i cant find it yet... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul W. Abrahams" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] Where to download KDE 3.2?

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 7:35 pm, John Andersen wrote:

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Mike Sacco posted this clue on how to get KDE Updated via Yast many months ago and As far as I know it's still valid...

I ALWAYS use this method and it has always worked for me. You have to change the version number a bit.

ALSO note that this works for the mirrors which are often faster .

---------------REPOST ---------------------------------------------

Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one,

such

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as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source

Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages.

Yast2 rejected the URL with the message:

Unable to create installation source from URL `http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/'. Details: ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media) Try again?

Looks like the directory structure isn't what Yast is expecting.

Paul Abrahams

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On Friday 06 February 2004 4:46 pm, Bill Hughes wrote:

On Wednesday 04 February 2004 01:02, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

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On Tuesday 03 February 2004 7:35 pm, John Andersen wrote:

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Mike Sacco posted this clue on how to get KDE Updated via Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source

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Yast2 rejected the URL with the message:

Unable to create installation source from URL `http://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/SuSE/ix86/9.0/'.

I had this, it does accept it, your server has to be ft.suse.com - no

slashes

and the directory is

The original post cited the package collection at kde.org, which has the wrong structure for Yast (lacking intermediate directories). The package collection at suse.com (and its mirrors) does have the structure Yast wants. Hope that clarifies what works and what doesn't. Paul Abrahams

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 21:15, Jerome Lyles wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 02:35 pm, John Andersen wrote:

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I ALWAYS use this method and it has always worked for me. You have to change the version number a bit.

ALSO note that this works for the mirrors which are often faster .

---------------REPOST ---------------------------------------------

Hello everyone,

I thought about this a while ago and found an answer on suse's kde mailing list.

Open up YaST and go to Change Source of Installation. Add an ftp one, such as this: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source

Use the 'up' button to make sure this is at the top of the list. Then, back at the main window of YaST, choose system update, and and select only update installed packages. There is a details button that shows what is going to be updated, so you can check it out yourself. Since I'm already running 8.2, this didn't update anything except all the kde and related rpms to 3.1.2. -----------------end repost --------------

-- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Hi, When I try to add: ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.0/yast-source

I get an error message: ERROR(InstSRC:E_no_instsrc_on_media)

What does this mean and what can I do about it? Thanks, Jerome

Remember to add just the server name portion in the server field and the rest (starting with /pub) to the directory field. And remember to do all the steps exactly as in the paragraph above with regard to the the install source. Its better to turn OFF the other sources with the disable button. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Thanks for the pointer and to all who responded. I will review the FAQ before posting further. -m On Feb 03, 2004 04:37 PM, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

* Matt Jurcich; on 03 Feb, 2004 wrote:

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Hey,

A bit new to SuSE myself, but shouldn't they be pushing 3.2 and other new versions through YOU? Or is YOU used only for patches while users still have to go manually find and update to whole new versions?

Thanks for any clarification on this.

http://susefaq.sourceforge.net/faq/software.html clarifies SUSE policy

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Yes I did, in fact it ran automatically after the upgrade and I also ran in separately at the command line. --- pinto wrote:

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 20:13, Gary N wrote:

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accepted the upgrade of gtk2 to 2.2.2.3.36 and it seemed to install fine, famous last words!

~ just a thought ~ did you run :

SuSEconfig

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Thanx for all the assistance you all have shown me. After a 200 KB/s download I've been staring at the Kpackage screen for the last 40 minutes, wondering when it'll be done installing (it's not showing much activity...). If it isn't done by morning I guess I'll try the good old rpm command line again. :) Regards, Pieter Hulshoff