* Julián Rodríguez Bajo [Nov 17. 2001 17:23]:

El Sáb 17 Nov 2001 16:35, Landy Roman escribió:

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how do i get this ~ on top the n for spanish words?

With a spanish keyboard, of course, key ñ.

At the console you can try Alt+241 for ñ and Alt+209 for Ñ.

I use an american keyboard, but still I can do ç ñ ø è etc. I configured the multikey (known as Compose key on Suns) like this in .Xmodmap: keycode 129 = Multi_key Then you want to replace the 129 with the key you want to assign it to. Maybe a good use of the Windows keys? To find out the keycode of the key you want, you use the program 'xev'. Another key that can be used could be the right CTRL key. To test it all out on the commandline, do: $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 129 = Multi_key' -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.

* John Scott [Nov 17. 2001 21:45]:

You can get all this functionality at no cost in the kde control panel . Go to the kde control panel and click peripherals->keyboard. Select US English as your primary layout. Go down to the Additional Layouts box below and scroll down till you see US English with dead keys. Check the box and hit apply. You will get a little icon in your system panel. You can turn your dead keys on and off with that icon.

So what about those of us who don't use KDE? My solution is generic X. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.

* Jerry Kreps [Nov 18. 2001 16:21]:

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So what about those of us who don't use KDE? My solution is generic X.

I curious, Mads, what desktop do you usually use, if any?

I use Blackbox, a very nice very small windowmanager that also looks good. If you want to see it, there is a screenshot here: http://www.mmj.dk/grafik/shot-10172001.png [ http://mmj.dk/conffiles is where all my configuration files resides ] -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.

Quoting Jerry Kreps :

Interesting... Looks similar to GTK+ Desktop. At first glance it appears to be a minimalist GUI desktop that a command line guru would love!

This command line guru/junkie loves it. I don't like Desktop Environments. I'd rather type "lpr file" than open the file manager, find the file, drag it to the printer icon, etc. I used BlackBox on Solaris and RedHat at work, on SuSE and Slackware at home. Nice. Fits how I work, lots of terminal windows and a few GUI apps like Netscape. Jeffrey -- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck

At 19:11 11/17/2001 +0100, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

* Julián Rodríguez Bajo [Nov 17. 2001 17:23]:

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El Sáb 17 Nov 2001 16:35, Landy Roman escribió:

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how do i get this ~ on top the n for spanish words?

I use an american keyboard, but still I can do ç ñ ø è etc. I configured the multikey (known as Compose key on Suns) like this in .Xmodmap:

keycode 129 = Multi_key

Then you want to replace the 129 with the key you want to assign it to. Maybe a good use of the Windows keys? To find out the keycode of the key you want, you use the program 'xev'. Another key that can be used could be the right CTRL key.

Is this different in Linux than in DOS/Windows? Ever since Wordstar, in almost every program, ñ is produced by holding alt and pressing 164 in sequence on the number keypad. (I've just done exactly that.) I kind of figured it was built into the BIOS. Please advise, as I have a whole stable of oddball characters for German, Italian, and Spanish, as well as degree symbols, etc. (Since I'm in the Windows world right now, I can't test it.) If it is not different, I can send the whole file to the group. --doug

i tried this and all i get is a bunch of nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn can someone shed more light On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:11:38 +0100 Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

* Julián Rodríguez Bajo [Nov 17. 2001 17:23]:

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El Sáb 17 Nov 2001 16:35, Landy Roman escribió:

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how do i get this ~ on top the n for spanish words?

With a spanish keyboard, of course, key ñ.

At the console you can try Alt+241 for ñ and Alt+209 for Ñ.

I use an american keyboard, but still I can do ç ñ ø è etc. I configured the multikey (known as Compose key on Suns) like this in .Xmodmap:

keycode 129 = Multi_key

Then you want to replace the 129 with the key you want to assign it to. Maybe a good use of the Windows keys? To find out the keycode of the key you want, you use the program 'xev'. Another key that can be used could be the right CTRL key.

To test it all out on the commandline, do:

$ xmodmap -e 'keycode 129 = Multi_key'

-- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.

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file looks like this !! ~/.Xmodmap !! !! The leading `!' is the comment sign. !! !! Please note: the natural way to assign keys are their keycodes. !! The only problem is, that keycodes do depend on the architecture, !! therefore keysymbols are used herein. This has the disadvantage !! that this file can only be called once with the program xmodmap. !! To get keycodes of the keys use the program xev. !! The system Xmodmap is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap, have a look. !! First example: Swap control key with caps lock key just like on !! lk401 from DEC or type 4 from Sun Microsystems !remove Lock = Caps_Lock !remove Control = Control_L !keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L !keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock !add Lock = Caps_Lock !add Control = Control_L !! Second example: Make left Alt key to left Meta key !! Note that afterwards no key is assigned anymore to the symbol Alt_L. !clear Mod1 !keysym Alt_L = Meta_L !add Mod1 = Meta_L !! Third example: Change right Control key to Compose key. !! To do Compose Character, press this key and afterwards two !! characters (e.g. `a' and `^' to get â). !remove Control = Control_R !keysym Control_R = Multi_key !add Control = Control_R !! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose !keysym Menu = Multi_key keycode 154 = Multi_key !! !! End of ~/.Xmodmap On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:04:47 +0100 Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

* Landy Roman [Nov 18. 2001 01:33]:

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i tried this and all i get is a bunch of nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

can someone shed more light

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:11:38 +0100

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keycode 129 = Multi_key

Did you remember to pick another keycode? What does your file look like?

-- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.

Landy Roman:

Mads Martin Joergensen:

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Julián Rodríguez Bajo:

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Landy Roman:

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how do i get this ~ on top the n for spanish words?

With a spanish keyboard, of course, key ñ.

At the console you can try Alt+241 for ñ and Alt+209 for Ñ.

I use an american keyboard, but still I can do ç ñ ø è etc. I configured the multikey (known as Compose key on Suns) like this in .Xmodmap:

keycode 129 = Multi_key

Then you want to replace the 129 with the key you want to assign it to. Maybe a good use of the Windows keys? To find out the keycode of the key you want, you use the program 'xev'. Another key that can be used could be the right CTRL key.

To test it all out on the commandline, do:

$ xmodmap -e 'keycode 129 = Multi_key'

i tried this and all i get is a bunch of nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

can someone shed more light

Yeah, I wrote about this a few times before. http://lists2.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2001-May/3191.html http://lists2.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2001-Aug/1769.html In SuSE Linux, the multi-key (or Compose key) used to be the right Control key by default. As far as I have understood, from 7.2 on it is the windows key next to the right Alt key. SH