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Chris Arnold

28 Dec 2007 28 Dec '07

21:00

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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which you have to solve one by one by either unistalling those things requiring amarok, or ignoring them (which probably only postpones the problem).

Take for instance, kpowersave ( i have no need for it as this is not a laptop) and when trying to remove kpowersave: #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2007-12-28 15:55:12 #### pattern:kde_basis has missing dependencies There are no alternative providers of kpowersave installed for pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586 === pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586 === kpowersave-0.7.3-5.i586[openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3] provides kpowersave == 0.7.3-5, but it is uninstallable. Try installing it on its own for more details. kpowersave-0.7.3-5.i586 provides kpowersave == 0.7.3-5, but is scheduled to be uninstalled. pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586 depends on kpowersave pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586 is lacking the requirement kpowersave (null) Conflict Resolution: ( ) keep kpowersave (x) delete kde_basis ( ) Ignore this requirement just here ( ) Generally ignore this requirement pattern:kde has missing dependencies There are no alternative providers of kde_basis installed for pattern:kde-10.3-159.i586 === pattern:kde-10.3-159.i586 === pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586[openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3] provides kde_basis == 10.3-159, but it is uninstallable. Try installing it on its own for more details. pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586 provides kde_basis == 10.3-159, but is scheduled to be uninstalled. pattern:kde-10.3-159.i586 depends on kde_basis pattern:kde-10.3-159.i586 is lacking the requirement kde_basis (null) Conflict Resolution: ( ) keep kde_basis ( ) delete kde ( ) Ignore this requirement just here ( ) Generally ignore this requirement pattern:kde_imaging has missing dependencies There are no alternative providers of kde_basis installed for pattern:kde_imaging-10.3-159.i586 === pattern:kde_imaging-10.3-159.i586 === pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586[openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3] provides kde_basis == 10.3-159, but it is uninstallable. Try installing it on its own for more details. pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586 provides kde_basis == 10.3-159, but is scheduled to be uninstalled. pattern:kde_imaging-10.3-159.i586 depends on kde_basis pattern:kde_imaging-10.3-159.i586 is lacking the requirement kde_basis (null) Conflict Resolution: ( ) keep kde_basis ( ) delete kde_imaging ( ) Ignore this requirement just here ( ) Generally ignore this requirement pattern:kde_imaging_opt has missing dependencies There are no alternative providers of kde_basis installed for pattern:kde_imaging_opt-10.3-159.i586 === pattern:kde_imaging_opt-10.3-159.i586 === pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586[openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3] provides kde_basis == 10.3-159, but it is uninstallable. Try installing it on its own for more details. pattern:kde_basis-10.3-159.i586 provides kde_basis == 10.3-159, but is scheduled to be uninstalled. pattern:kde_imaging_opt-10.3-159.i586 depends on kde_basis pattern:kde_imaging_opt-10.3-159.i586 is lacking the requirement kde_basis (null) Conflict Resolution: ( ) keep kde_basis ( ) delete kde_imaging_opt ( ) Ignore this requirement just here ( ) Generally ignore this requirement #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### Notice the conflict resolution::: delete kde What is that? By selecting this do i delete kde environment? What is kde in this instance? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Carlos E. R.

28 Dec 28 Dec

23:12

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-28 at 16:00 -0500, Chris Arnold wrote:

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which you have to solve one by one by either unistalling those things requiring amarok, or ignoring them (which probably only postpones the problem).

Take for instance, kpowersave ( i have no need for it as this is not a laptop) and when trying to remove kpowersave:

You are making the assumption that you do not need kpowersave, and that is wrong.

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#### YaST2 conflicts list END ###

Notice the conflict resolution::: delete kde What is that? By selecting this do i delete kde environment? What is kde in this instance?

All of kde. So don't remove kpowersave. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHdYLftTMYHG2NR9URAoQJAJ0XIsT97waBjO/A/ul2flRVUheu2QCdE/yb YxdEd422NmO8BH8DUNPMTSY= =L+vl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Chris Arnold

29 Dec 29 Dec

00:37

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Take for instance, kpowersave ( i have no need for it as this is not a laptop) and when trying to remove kpowersave:

You are making the assumption that you do not need kpowersave, and that is wrong.

Umm, i don't want it or need it. I removed it without any problems after saying delete kde.

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All of kde. So don't remove kpowersave. See above

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Carlos E. R.

00:46

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-28 at 19:37 -0500, Chris Arnold wrote:

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Take for instance, kpowersave ( i have no need for it as this is not a laptop) and when trying to remove kpowersave:

You are making the assumption that you do not need kpowersave, and that is wrong.

Umm, i don't want it or need it. I removed it without any problems after saying delete kde.

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All of kde. So don't remove kpowersave. See above

So, you don't want kde? You said you installed kde because you didn't like gnome. It's your machine to break; don't complain when problems come later... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHdZj9tTMYHG2NR9URAnNvAJ9w4vyG9rXQJbvtqVHyRWSm2aBjHQCdGaYQ QyfaY7uZxCcPoCHp068yWLs= =Jfep -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Joe Sloan

01:27

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Chris Arnold wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Take for instance, kpowersave ( i have no need for it as this is not a laptop) and when trying to remove kpowersave: You are making the assumption that you do not need kpowersave, and that is wrong. Umm, i don't want it or need it. I removed it without any problems after saying delete kde.

In other words, what you were trying to say is that you wanted to uninstall kde. OK, Note that you *do not* have to reinstall the OS, when you decide that you want kde again. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bob S

05:10

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On Friday 28 December 2007 08:27:25 pm Joe Sloan wrote:

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Chris Arnold wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Take for instance, kpowersave ( i have no need for it as this is not a laptop) and when trying to remove kpowersave:

You are making the assumption that you do not need kpowersave, and that is wrong.

Umm, i don't want it or need it. I removed it without any problems after saying delete kde.

In other words, what you were trying to say is that you wanted to uninstall kde. OK, Note that you *do not* have to reinstall the OS, when you decide that you want kde again.

No guys, what he is saying is that he wants an install without a lot of stuff that he really doesn't need or want, and, if they do get installed that he wants to uninstall them. He is right. If you will never use the multimedia stuff why install it. And why should multi-media be a requirement for theOS/ desktop? Especially poignant, is the example of kpowersave. If you don't have a laptop why is it necessary to install it? The dependencies are completely illogical. Why should all of KDE have a dependency for kpowersave? I can certainly see an application having a dependency for certain things in the basic desktop system. I cannot see why the desktop system would have a dependency on an obscure add-on type of application to function. That is bass ackwards! Guess I just don't understand. I'm not a software designer/engineer. Maybe there is some logical reason, somewhere, somehow. There is a bunch of stuff I would like to get rid of also. Including kpowersave. When I see the dependency hell to remove something I don't want, I just sigh, shrug my shoulders, wonder how that could possibly be, and thank the lord that we now have these huge hard drives that will carry the bloat. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

11:20

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-29 at 00:10 -0500, Bob S wrote:

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In other words, what you were trying to say is that you wanted to uninstall kde. OK, Note that you *do not* have to reinstall the OS, when you decide that you want kde again.

No guys, what he is saying is that he wants an install without a lot of stuff that he really doesn't need or want, and, if they do get installed that he wants to uninstall them. He is right. If you will never use the multimedia stuff why install it. And why should multi-media be a requirement for theOS/ desktop?

Yes, that's ok. There is a tick box for the multimedia pattern in software management. Just untick it. It is not a requirement.

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Especially poignant, is the example of kpowersave. If you don't have a laptop why is it necessary to install it? The dependencies are completely illogical. Why should all of KDE have a dependency for kpowersave?

Why do you think it is illogical? It's not only for laptops. If you really think those dependencies are absurd, open a bugzilla requesting the dependencies be dropped, and see what they say. But he just went ahead and said yes to uninstall kde. Is that logical?

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I can certainly see an application having a dependency for certain things in the basic desktop system. I cannot see why the desktop system would have a dependency on an obscure add-on type of application to function. That is bass ackwards! Guess I just don't understand. I'm not a software designer/engineer. Maybe there is some logical reason, somewhere, somehow.

There sure is.

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There is a bunch of stuff I would like to get rid of also. Including kpowersave. When I see the dependency hell to remove something I don't want, I just sigh, shrug my shoulders, wonder how that could possibly be, and thank the lord that we now have these huge hard drives that will carry the bloat.

And... how many hundreds of megabytes will removing that package save? Is it worth the time and effort spent? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHdi2atTMYHG2NR9URAqHzAJ4i2Zb1Z6PS5EiX8nKSbp97kYR5vACfVZdq ipZhlGk6dh7iU+cxUsqxfuo= =lU9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jon Clausen

21:13

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs: amarok

On Sat, 29 Dec, 2007 at 12:20:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: <snip>

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I can certainly see an application having a dependency for certain things in the basic desktop system. I cannot see why the desktop system would have a dependency on an obscure add-on type of application to function. That is bass ackwards! Guess I just don't understand. I'm not a software designer/engineer. Maybe there is some logical reason, somewhere, somehow.

There sure is.

Then again, maybe not. Take this example of a newly installed 10.3 KDE system with misc. multimedia stuff installed (from packman et al): "openSUSE update" keeps telling me there's "New software updates available" open it up, click 'details', I get; (selected) amarok "fixes to improve..." "recommended" version=4492-0 (unselected) openmotif22libs "64bit package added..." "optional" version=4540-0 Now; I'm messing about, copying misc. configs from backups etc. - setting desktop preferences, doing the usual personalization stuff. Plenty of times logged out/back in, system rebooted for whatever other reasons. Every time I'm logged back in, the updater tells me there's 'new' updates available. Many times I told the updater to 'update', and everytime it comes back with 'new updates' status. At this point I'm pretty fed up with the whole thing, especially since I don't much care for Amarok anyway. So then I start thinking about just uninstalling the thing, so I can have a *reliable* status from the 'updater'. Incidentally it's around the same time I check the mail and see this thread. Uninstalling Amarok; a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok error: Failed dependencies: libamarok.so.0 is needed by (installed) amarok-xine-1.4.7-37.4.i586 libamarok.so.0 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586 amarok = 1.4.7 is needed by (installed) amarok-xine-1.4.7-37.4.i586 amarok = 1.4.7 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586 ...right. Of course there are deps, but 'doubles'?. Let's check them out; a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok-yauap a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok-xine Hmmm nice - this should be fixed in a jiffy; a13:/home/jon # rpm -e amarok-xine a13:/home/jon # rpm -e amarok-yauap error: Failed dependencies: amarok_engine >= %version is needed by (installed) amarok-1.4.7-37.4.i586 ...what? Is that circular? a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok error: Failed dependencies: libamarok.so.0 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586 amarok = 1.4.7 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586 OK, but now we aren't 'seeing double' at least. a13:/home/jon # rpm -q --whatrequires amarok amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4 a13:/home/jon # rpm -q --whatrequires amarok-yauap no package requires amarok-yauap ...great! Let's just uninstall yauap, and be done with it; a13:/home/jon # rpm -e amarok-yauap error: Failed dependencies: amarok_engine >= %version is needed by (installed) amarok-1.4.7-37.4.i586 Not. a13:/home/jon # rpm -q --whatprovides amarok_engine amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4 Impressive: amarok-yauap needs amarok_engine amarok_engine is provided by amarok-yauap Circular indeed! a13:/home/jon # rpm -ql amarok-yauap /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/libamarok_yauap-engine_plugin.la /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/libamarok_yauap-engine_plugin.so /opt/kde3/share/services/amarok_yauap-engine_plugin.desktop /opt/kde3/share/services/amarok_yauap-mp3_install.desktop ...well "I don't need those"; a13:/home/jon # rpm -e --force amarok-yauap rpm: only installation, upgrading, rmsource and rmspec may be forced ...right, what I meant to say was; a13:/home/jon # rpm -e --nodeps amarok-yauap Nice. No errors. Let's get on with it; a13:/home/jon # rpm -e amarok Done. Now, just for good measure; a13:/home/jon # rpm -qa | grep -i amarok amarok-libvisual-1.4.7-37.4 a13:/home/jon # rpm -e amarok-libvisual a13:/home/jon # rpm -qa | grep -i amarok *really* done.

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There is a bunch of stuff I would like to get rid of also. Including kpowersave. When I see the dependency hell to remove something I don't want, I just sigh, shrug my shoulders, wonder how that could possibly be, and thank the lord that we now have these huge hard drives that will carry the bloat.

And... how many hundreds of megabytes will removing that package save? Is it worth the time and effort spent?

It's not so much the megabytes, rather it's about system consistency. I'm aware that packaging errors happen, but these should be confronted and solved rather than be 'swept under the rug'. And a blanket "just uninstall the whole 'selection'" isn't really a proper solution IMHO. I *want* multimedia, just not the specific application. Now, if that application (or one of it's 'supporters') has a circular dependency that prevents the 'updater' from performing *it's* duties, then that application MUST DIE, and I'll consider the time killing it well spent. MO /jon -- YMMV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

30 Dec 30 Dec

00:22

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs: amarok

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Jon Clausen [12-29-07 16:15]:

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Incidentally it's around the same time I check the mail and see this thread.

Uninstalling Amarok;

a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok error: Failed dependencies: libamarok.so.0 is needed by (installed) amarok-xine-1.4.7-37.4.i586 libamarok.so.0 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586 amarok = 1.4.7 is needed by (installed) amarok-xine-1.4.7-37.4.i586 amarok = 1.4.7 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586

...right. Of course there are deps, but 'doubles'?. Let's check them out;

a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok-yauap a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok-xine

Hmmm nice - this should be fixed in a jiffy;

You make it toooo hard. The "test" above gave you the answer. try: rpm --test -e amarok amarok-xine amarok-yauap you are building a house of sticks and pulling out hair that will not regenerate - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHduS1ClSjbQz1U5oRAsLzAJ9AM/Gjx/BJTLrcNpSkmi+dwkN+QgCfTfw4 4JfWYr8+8wCuTubEyqgXHfA= =1T8D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jon Clausen

08:26

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs: amarok

On Sat, 29 Dec, 2007 at 19:22:13 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Jon Clausen [12-29-07 16:15]:

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Incidentally it's around the same time I check the mail and see this thread.

Uninstalling Amarok;

a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok error: Failed dependencies: libamarok.so.0 is needed by (installed) amarok-xine-1.4.7-37.4.i586 libamarok.so.0 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586 amarok = 1.4.7 is needed by (installed) amarok-xine-1.4.7-37.4.i586 amarok = 1.4.7 is needed by (installed) amarok-yauap-1.4.7-37.4.i586

...right. Of course there are deps, but 'doubles'?. Let's check them out;

a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok-yauap a13:/home/jon # rpm --test -e amarok-xine

Hmmm nice - this should be fixed in a jiffy;

You make it toooo hard. The "test" above gave you the answer. try:

rpm --test -e amarok amarok-xine amarok-yauap

Indeed. I should have thought of that.

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you are building a house of sticks and pulling out hair that will not regenerate

Not really - the pulling hairs bit... I'm way past that. What *is* kind of annoying is that the updater *still* has this 'amarok' update, despite the fact that all amarok rpms were uninstalled yesterday. /jon -- YMMV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jon Clausen

13:57

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs: amarok

On Sun, 30 Dec, 2007 at 09:26:04 +0100, Jon Clausen wrote:

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On Sat, 29 Dec, 2007 at 19:22:13 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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rpm --test -e amarok amarok-xine amarok-yauap

Indeed. I should have thought of that.

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you are building a house of sticks and pulling out hair that will not regenerate

Not really - the pulling hairs bit... I'm way past that.

What *is* kind of annoying is that the updater *still* has this 'amarok' update, despite the fact that all amarok rpms were uninstalled yesterday.

Just a followup on the "sticky" amarok-update; After mucking about with 'zypper' for a while, trying to get it refreshed to a point where it would realize there was no reason to offer me an amarok update, I finally went to yast online update instead; It too had the same update as "preselected". In the end I decided to just let it (YOU that is) update, since I could just remove whatever would be installed afterwards. YOU ran, went through the motions of updating amarok, finished. Afterwards rpm -qa | grep -i amarok still comes up empty. So I'm all happy now; Amarok is gone, updater applet is green (no updates). So there. /jon -- YMMV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bob S

04:52

New subject: [opensuse] Uninstall programs

On Saturday 29 December 2007 06:20:49 am Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I can certainly see an application having a dependency for certain things in the basic desktop system. I cannot see why the desktop system would have a dependency on an obscure add-on type of application to function. That is bass ackwards! Guess I just don't understand. I'm not a software designer/engineer. Maybe there is some logical reason, somewhere, somehow.

There sure is.

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There is a bunch of stuff I would like to get rid of also. Including kpowersave. When I see the dependency hell to remove something I don't want, I just sigh, shrug my shoulders, wonder how that could possibly be, and thank the lord that we now have these huge hard drives that will carry the bloat.

And... how many hundreds of megabytes will removing that package save? Is it worth the time and effort spent?

That's why I sigh, shrug my shoulders, and continue on. Not worth it. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Chris Arnold

29 Dec 29 Dec

13:13

New subject: [opensuse] [SOLVED]Uninstall programs

Bob S wrote:

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No guys, what he is saying is that he wants an install without a lot of stuff that he really doesn't need or want, and, if they do get installed that he wants to uninstall them. He is right. If you will never use the multimedia stuff why install it. And why should multi-media be a requirement for theOS/ desktop?

You hit it right on the head, Bob! Thanks for clarifying things (i was not going to try as it seems some people just want to type and don't read the mail right). And kpowersave was just an example, what about the 20 other things (amarok and kaffeine to name 2) that i don't want/need and are hooked to some dependency?

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Especially poignant, is the example of kpowersave. If you don't have a laptop why is it necessary to install it? The dependencies are completely illogical. Why should all of KDE have a dependency for kpowersave?

Carlos, kpowersave has suspend to disk and hibernate options, which are for laptops (at least my desktop does not suspend or hibernate) Anyway, i have solved this and moved on to other things (as stated a couple of emails back). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

15:33

New subject: [opensuse] [SOLVED]Uninstall programs

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-29 at 08:13 -0500, Chris Arnold wrote:

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20 other things (amarok and kaffeine to name 2) that i don't want/need and are hooked to some dependency?

Just untick the multimedia pattern.

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Carlos, kpowersave has suspend to disk and hibernate options, which are for laptops (at least my desktop does not suspend or hibernate)

It also controls the frequency of the CPU and other things. I don't have a laptop and I use it. However, you said you just uninstalled the whole of kde, so the point is moot. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHdmjptTMYHG2NR9URAvT7AJ99LZ8e6qDfmvbtkAgqiA6c2g7TQgCfbOJz 4++2KY7AzqjKZDrUoRZHeO8= =9UY9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Chris Arnold

15:39

New subject: [opensuse] [SOLVED]Uninstall programs

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Just untick the multimedia pattern. I still want some multimedia, like sound.

However, you said you just uninstalled the whole of kde, so the point is moot. Thats right and i still have kde desktop! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

20:47

New subject: [opensuse] [SOLVED]Uninstall programs

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Chris Arnold [12-29-07 10:42]:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Just untick the multimedia pattern. I still want some multimedia, like sound.

However, you said you just uninstalled the whole of kde, so the point is moot. Thats right and i still have kde desktop!

*not* if you "uninstalled the whole of kde", you don't. You have failed to truthfully convey your entire actions and fail to understand them yourself. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHdrJeClSjbQz1U5oRAiH2AJ9vqgpOQ8dh5pcXBVbXfm8Mo4EJkwCghjf9 ejl/0+RS3esFV/9M16/zANU= =2VjV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Chris Arnold

20:58

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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*not* if you "uninstalled the whole of kde", you don't. You have failed to truthfully convey your entire actions and fail to understand them yourself. **Yes*..* I don't know if that dependency conflict that said "delete kde" meant the whole or not. Apparently, it did not as i still have kde! Issue closed as stated in the subject line!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David Bolt

30 Dec 30 Dec

08:30

New subject: [opensuse] [SOLVED]Uninstall programs

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:-

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* Chris Arnold [12-29-07 10:42]:

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Thats right and i still have kde desktop!

*not* if you "uninstalled the whole of kde", you don't. You have failed to truthfully convey your entire actions and fail to understand them yourself.

No, it's quite possible to uninstall KDE and yet still have a fully working KDE desktop. In this case, all that's happened is that the KDE _pattern_ has been removed, probably along with any other patterns that depend on the KDE pattern being present, but not any of the packages that were installed by those patterns. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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