[opensuse] OT: Asus Question Boards
Hello, The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with openSUSE 13.1 with Secure Boot and AMI Bios. Please let me know the Boards for a Answer. The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with Secure Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation Problem? Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE 13.1. Thanks for the Help, -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 16:48 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with openSUSE 13.1 with Secure Boot and AMI Bios.
Please let me know the Boards for a Answer.
The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with Secure Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation Problem?
Do you have bug numbers?
Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE 13.1.
Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:03:44 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 16:48 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with openSUSE 13.1 with Secure Boot and AMI Bios.
Please let me know the Boards for a Answer.
The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with Secure Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation Problem?
Do you have bug numbers?
Yes ;) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848797
Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE 13.1.
Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:19 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:03:44 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 16:48 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with openSUSE 13.1 with Secure Boot and AMI Bios.
Please let me know the Boards for a Answer.
The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with Secure Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation Problem?
Do you have bug numbers?
Yes ;)
grub2 in 13.1 had bug that was fixed in later update. Did you test - install in UEFI mode with secure boot disabled - apply all updates - enable secure boot And BTW this bug could also affect non-secure boot case.
Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE 13.1.
Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:28:59 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:19 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:03:44 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 16:48 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with openSUSE 13.1 with Secure Boot and AMI Bios.
Please let me know the Boards for a Answer.
The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with Secure Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation Problem?
Do you have bug numbers?
Yes ;)
grub2 in 13.1 had bug that was fixed in later update. Did you test
- install in UEFI mode with secure boot disabled - apply all updates - enable secure boot
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
And BTW this bug could also affect non-secure boot case.
Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE 13.1.
Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 03/01/2014 17:40, Günther J. Niederwimmer a écrit :
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
did you change the boot OS from the bios? jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 17:51:05 schrieb jdd:
Le 03/01/2014 17:40, Günther J. Niederwimmer a écrit :
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
did you change the boot OS from the bios?
Yes, I start with the secure Boot entry In UEFI this is not working, without Secure Boot in the Bios I can start all system that was in the EFI Folder openSUSE, openSUSE Secure Boot Win 8.1 .... openSUSE can't found the Microsoft Key. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 03/01/2014 18:01, Günther J. Niederwimmer a écrit :
openSUSE can't found the Microsoft Key.
ok, that's most certainly a bug. I didn't encouter it, but installed on computer from people I don't know, so I can't know what they where jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:40 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:28:59 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:19 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:03:44 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 16:48 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with openSUSE 13.1 with Secure Boot and AMI Bios.
Please let me know the Boards for a Answer.
The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with Secure Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation Problem?
Do you have bug numbers?
Yes ;)
grub2 in 13.1 had bug that was fixed in later update. Did you test
- install in UEFI mode with secure boot disabled - apply all updates - enable secure boot
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
You ignored my question about installing updates. And in bug report you also said you tested 13.1 GA, and never said anything about applying later updates.
And BTW this bug could also affect non-secure boot case.
Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE 13.1.
Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 18:01 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 17:51:05 schrieb jdd:
Le 03/01/2014 17:40, Günther J. Niederwimmer a écrit :
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
did you change the boot OS from the bios?
Yes, I start with the secure Boot entry In UEFI this is not working, without Secure Boot in the Bios I can start all system that was in the EFI Folder openSUSE, openSUSE Secure Boot Win 8.1 ....
openSUSE can't found the Microsoft Key.
I do not understand what you want to say here, sorry. openSUSE does not search for nor does it need Microsoft key at all. Nor can it do it because it is unknown. Microsoft key is used by firmware to verify signature of shim. This signature is applied by Microsoft itself and openSUSE just receives signed binary without having any access to the key. You are the only one having access to hardware and the only one who can do any debugging. Start with testing whether launching shim itself (without telling it to boot anything) works. If yes, signature verification works. Try to use shim to load known good binary, like Microsoft bootloader. If it works, then the whole process of signature verification via shim also works. Try to enroll openSUSE key in firmware and launching GRUB directly without shim.
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
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Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 21:31:38 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:40 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:28:59 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:19 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:03:44 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 16:48 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with openSUSE 13.1 with Secure Boot and AMI Bios.
Please let me know the Boards for a Answer.
The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with Secure Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation Problem?
Do you have bug numbers?
Yes ;)
grub2 in 13.1 had bug that was fixed in later update. Did you test
- install in UEFI mode with secure boot disabled - apply all updates - enable secure boot
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
You ignored my question about installing updates. And in bug report you also said you tested 13.1 GA, and never said anything about applying later updates.
Pardon, I don't ignore your Question ;). Yes I install all update, yes I test it again with secure boot, but it is not working ? Is this wrong in the message from Gary Lin, I understand the Message in that way, the Microsoft Signature is on the wrong Place implemented ? And only a Bios Update bring back the function to boot with secure Boot? OK, I test it again.
And BTW this bug could also affect non-secure boot case.
Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE 13.1.
Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 19:27 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 21:31:38 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:40 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:28:59 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 17:19 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет:
Hello,
Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 20:03:44 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
В Пт, 03/01/2014 в 16:48 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer пишет: > Hello, > > The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with > openSUSE > 13.1 > with Secure Boot and AMI Bios. > > Please let me know the Boards for a Answer. > > The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot with > Secure > Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation > Problem?
Do you have bug numbers?
Yes ;)
grub2 in 13.1 had bug that was fixed in later update. Did you test
- install in UEFI mode with secure boot disabled - apply all updates - enable secure boot
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
You ignored my question about installing updates. And in bug report you also said you tested 13.1 GA, and never said anything about applying later updates.
Pardon,
I don't ignore your Question ;). Yes I install all update, yes I test it again with secure boot, but it is not working ?
Is this wrong in the message from Gary Lin, I understand the Message in that way, the Microsoft Signature is on the wrong Place implemented ?
I looked at your bug report once more and I still miss clear description, *what* does not work. Booting is multistage process and secure boot in this case adds even more steps. Your bug report gives no reasons to believe that problem is in signature verification. Actually it does not give any information beyond "it does not work". That is why I said you - start step by step, determine at which step booting fails. If problem is signature verification, you should get error - either from firmware or from shim. Do you get one? If yes - please show picture of this error.
And only a Bios Update bring back the function to boot with secure Boot?
OK, I test it again.
And BTW this bug could also affect non-secure boot case.
> Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with openSUSE > 13.1. > > Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Freitag, 3. Januar 2014, 22:47:31 schrieb Andrey Borzenkov:
> > The ASUS People like to know is any Motherboard running with > > openSUSE > > 13.1 > > with Secure Boot and AMI Bios. > > > > Please let me know the Boards for a Answer. > > > > The Problem, I have two new ASUS Boards with Problems to boot > > with > > Secure > > Boot and the SUSE People mean this is a ASUS implementation > > Problem?
grub2 in 13.1 had bug that was fixed in later update. Did you test
- install in UEFI mode with secure boot disabled - apply all updates - enable secure boot
Yes, but with enabled Secure Boot the system is not starting, win 8 is starting :-(.
You ignored my question about installing updates. And in bug report you also said you tested 13.1 GA, and never said anything about applying later updates.
Pardon,
I don't ignore your Question ;). Yes I install all update, yes I test it again with secure boot, but it is not working ?
Is this wrong in the message from Gary Lin, I understand the Message in that way, the Microsoft Signature is on the wrong Place implemented ?
I looked at your bug report once more and I still miss clear description, *what* does not work. Booting is multistage process and secure boot in this case adds even more steps. Your bug report gives no reasons to believe that problem is in signature verification. Actually it does not give any information beyond "it does not work".
That is why I said you - start step by step, determine at which step booting fails.
I test now again With enable Secure Boot
From a DVD is 13.1 not Starting but also not Fedora 20 :(
The installed 13.1 is not found / starting with enabled Secure Boot, but the windows 8 is starting without Grub2-EFI When Secure Boot is disabled the GRUB2_EFI is starting with Menu openSUSE Windows 8. I mean this is a Bios Problem. Have any a ASUS Bord or other Board with AMI Bios on that Secure Boot is Working ???
If problem is signature verification, you should get error - either from firmware or from shim. Do you get one? If yes - please show picture of this error.
And only a Bios Update bring back the function to boot with secure Boot?
OK, I test it again.
And BTW this bug could also affect non-secure boot case.
> > Now like ASUS to know the Boards there are running with > > openSUSE > > 13.1. > > > > Thanks for the Help,
-- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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