[opensuse] UPS software
On my single home computer I just installed a newer model UPS with a DB9 connection for communication with the computer. Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable. Looking through the openSUSE software I only discovered NUT, described as network UPS control. Nothing with a GUI and nothing for a single user. And no information at first site about the possibility to axiomatically to shutdown my machine. Before I start with some software which will perhaps not be the best choice I would like to get info from the list members about their favorite UPS product. -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 and LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 12.3 (i586) Kernel: 3.7.10-1.16-default KDE Development Platform: 4.10.5 "release 1" 11:41am up 12:10, 2 users, load average: 0.47, 0.90, 1.31 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/12/2013 09:07 PM, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On my single home computer I just installed a newer model UPS with a DB9 connection for communication with the computer. Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable. Looking through the openSUSE software I only discovered NUT, described as network UPS control. Nothing with a GUI and nothing for a single user. And no information at first site about the possibility to axiomatically to shutdown my machine. Before I start with some software which will perhaps not be the best choice I would like to get info from the list members about their favorite UPS product.
There are really only two choices, NUT, http://www.networkupstools.org/ and apcupsd http://www.apcupsd.org/ You might find a proprietary version on some high end UPS systems. I've used acpupsd in the past, but don't use it on my current system. See http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/UPS-HOWTO/ -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:07:23 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable.
Something to be aware of is that many UPSes use a proprietary cable - a standard cable won't work with them. APC is notorious about being like that, but they're not alone. Double and triple check that the cable is wired properly. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 06:59:35 AM Jim Henderson wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:07:23 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable.
Something to be aware of is that many UPSes use a proprietary cable - a standard cable won't work with them. APC is notorious about being like that, but they're not alone. Double and triple check that the cable is wired properly.
Dear Jim, Thanks for the warning. Was something I long time ago knew but have forgotten in the meantime. Have for the time being unplugged the USB cable :) Regards, Constant -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 and LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 12.3 (i586) Kernel: 3.7.10-1.16-default KDE Development Platform: 4.10.5 "release 1" 14:54pm up 15:23, 2 users, load average: 1.04, 1.00, 0.86 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Here's a great "howto" for setting up NUT on opensuse. IMO nut is
really the only option for UPS management on Linux/UNIX systems, it's
super powerful. It's supported by many large UPS manufactures,
Eaton/Powerware being the main support, and the head developers does
or use to work for them.
http://rogerprice.org/NUT.html
--
Later,
Darin
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Constant Brouerius van Nidek
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 06:59:35 AM Jim Henderson wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:07:23 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable.
Something to be aware of is that many UPSes use a proprietary cable - a standard cable won't work with them. APC is notorious about being like that, but they're not alone. Double and triple check that the cable is wired properly.
Dear Jim, Thanks for the warning. Was something I long time ago knew but have forgotten in the meantime. Have for the time being unplugged the USB cable :)
Regards, Constant
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On 11/13/2013 12:07 AM, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On my single home computer I just installed a newer model UPS with a DB9 connection for communication with the computer. Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable. Looking through the openSUSE software I only discovered NUT, described as network UPS control. Nothing with a GUI and nothing for a single user. And no information at first site about the possibility to axiomatically to shutdown my machine. Before I start with some software which will perhaps not be the best choice I would like to get info from the list members about their favorite UPS product.
What make & model of UPS? BTW, there's no such thing as a DB9 connector. It's a DE9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/13/2013 5:27 AM, James Knott wrote:
BTW, there's no such thing as a DB9 connector. It's a DE9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature
More revisionism. Its been called a db9 for over 40 years Google it. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:29 PM, John Andersen
On 11/13/2013 5:27 AM, James Knott wrote:
BTW, there's no such thing as a DB9 connector. It's a DE9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature
More revisionism.
Its been called a db9 for over 40 years Google it.
Yes, indeed, do: http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/55439/d-sub-connectors -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/13/2013 12:29 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 11/13/2013 5:27 AM, James Knott wrote:
BTW, there's no such thing as a DB9 connector. It's a DE9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature More revisionism.
Its been called a db9 for over 40 years Google it.
And it's been called a db-9 incorrectly since the original IBM-PC was introduced. At least I don't recall any serial connectors in common use before then that didn't use the DB-25. It was a natural mistake for non-technical folks to make, and even for technical ones, myself included. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
It was a natural mistake for non-technical folks to make, and even for technical ones, myself included.
I never made that error. My first experience with this connector type was with the DB-25 and the catelog page showed the various connectors in the series, including the DE9, DA15 etc. So, I never learned the wrong way. As for background, I started working in the telecommunications industry over 43 years ago, where getting the right connector was always important. If I ever ordered a "DB9", I wouldn't have received the needed connector. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
On 11/13/2013 5:27 AM, James Knott wrote:
BTW, there's no such thing as a DB9 connector. It's a DE9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature More revisionism.
Its been called a db9 for over 40 years Google it.
It's ignorance. Years ago, in my work, I used to order connectors by the 1000s. If I ordered a "DB9", I wouldn't have got my connectors. The way it works is the "D" refers to the shell type, the 2nd letter is the shell size and the number is the number of pins. Anyone who claims otherwise is proving their ignorance. Lots of people proving their ignorance doesn't make it right. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott
John Andersen wrote: [...]
Its been called a db9 for over 40 years Google it.
It's ignorance. Years ago, in my work, I used to order connectors by the 1000s. If I ordered a "DB9", I wouldn't have got my connectors. The way it works is the "D" refers to the shell type, the 2nd letter is the shell size and the number is the number of pins. Anyone who claims otherwise is proving their ignorance. Lots of people proving their ignorance doesn't make it right.
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On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 08:27:11 AM James Knott wrote:
On 11/13/2013 12:07 AM, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On my single home computer I just installed a newer model UPS with a DB9 connection for communication with the computer. Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable. Looking through the openSUSE software I only discovered NUT, described as network UPS control. Nothing with a GUI and nothing for a single user. And no information at first site about the possibility to axiomatically to shutdown my machine. Before I start with some software which will perhaps not be the best choice I would like to get info from the list members about their favorite UPS product. What make & model of UPS?
Its is a : (Emerson) Liebert PSA itON UPS. PS 600-TN, 600Va/360W On the product page they seem to use the Viewpower-Linux software. Found no details up to now about the lay out from the DE9 cable :) Know from experience that DE9 to USB does not always work as hoped.
BTW, there's no such thing as a DB9 connector. It's a DE9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature
Liked the DE9 discussion. Thanks for the information. -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 and LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 12.3 (i586) Kernel: 3.7.10-1.16-default KDE Development Platform: 4.10.5 "release 1" 15:15pm up 2:20, 2 users, load average: 1.97, 1.72, 1.67 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-11-14 09:28, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On the product page they seem to use the Viewpower-Linux software. Found no details up to now about the lay out from the DE9 cable :) Know from experience that DE9 to USB does not always work as hoped.
It might be an RS232 serial port, and thus require a serial to usb converter, too.
BTW, there's no such thing as a DB9 connector. It's a DE9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature
Liked the DE9 discussion. Thanks for the information.
Same here. Funny, the shops I worked with, even in bulk, accepted "DB9" in our orders. Either they did the same mistake, or they did the "translation" silently. Which explains why many people think that DB9 is correct. Heh, I just did a quick search at a random shop (Maplin) for both, and the only hit was DB9! (and not for a connector). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Heh, I just did a quick search at a random shop (Maplin) for both, and the only hit was DB9! (and not for a connector).
What, Maplin sell Aston Martins? :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Heh, I just did a quick search at a random shop (Maplin) for both, and the only hit was DB9! (and not for a connector).
What, Maplin sell Aston Martins? :)
Matchbox size ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
On my single home computer I just installed a newer model UPS with a DB9 connection for communication with the computer. Missing a DB9 connector on the machine I have connected the two with a DB9->USB cable. Looking through the openSUSE software I only discovered NUT, described as network UPS control. Nothing with a GUI and nothing for a single user. And no information at first site about the possibility to axiomatically to shutdown my machine. Before I start with some software which will perhaps not be the best choice I would like to get info from the list members about their favorite UPS product.
UPS software - NUT. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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