[opensuse] Re: schick mir die IT-Projektmanag. Dokumenten zu!!!
On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:52, Agouzé Mawo Christ KOKOU wrote:
Bitte schick mir die Dokumenten IT-Projektmanagement zu- Danke
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Sorry, hab ich ganz vergessen! Konntest du dich zur Prüfung noch anmelden ? Gruß Samir
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 13:21 +0100, Samir van de Sand wrote:
Sorry, hab ich ganz vergessen! Konntest du dich zur Prüfung noch anmelden ?
I don't understand a word of what he says, but... Why has this email of 1.8 MEGA bytes allowed on list? It contains a BIG attachment: 2 1.3 MB Application/X-ZIP It contains: Gastvortrag Brune Best Practice in MS Project 19.12.06.pdf Gastvortrag Brune Übungsprojekt UMTS Step4 19.12.06.pdf Gastvortrag Brune Übungsprojekt UMTS Balkenplan 19.12.06.pdf - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFu2xGtTMYHG2NR9URAvw8AJ9Xy4lGL808lJe41ueaUin8gdrS/wCeInBj X9jao2Uz6OXcyAu1c3F3Tnk= =JOLb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 13:21 +0100, Samir van de Sand wrote:
Sorry, hab ich ganz vergessen! Konntest du dich zur Prüfung noch anmelden ?
I don't understand a word of what he says, but...
"Sorry, I've completely forgotten! Were you still able to apply for the exam ?" is, what he said.
Why has this email of 1.8 MEGA bytes allowed on list? It contains a BIG attachment:
2 1.3 MB Application/X-ZIP
It contains:
Gastvortrag Brune Best Practice in MS Project 19.12.06.pdf Gastvortrag Brune Übungsprojekt UMTS Step4 19.12.06.pdf Gastvortrag Brune Übungsprojekt UMTS Balkenplan 19.12.06.pdf
It's a private mail for someone completely unrelated to opensuse (in German). Since this is not the first time he sent private mail to the list I have asked the listowner to unsubscribe him. Otherwise we might be inflicted with bad love letters next time... -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 16:26 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:
It's a private mail for someone completely unrelated to opensuse (in German). Since this is not the first time he sent private mail to the list I have asked the listowner to unsubscribe him.
That's good. I also sent a copy to him.
Otherwise we might be inflicted with bad love letters next time...
:-) Anyway, attachments of that size should be rejected by the list filter, even if On Topic, IMO. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFu4kctTMYHG2NR9URAgc6AKCWjl4N62JKOdbinHeU6qLTPXq1MACfQmN9 lcMIRbtUOISdXa7zPcqd2nI= =nRe2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anyway, attachments of that size should be rejected by the list filter, even if On Topic, IMO. Absolutely. In fact, some folks say that distributing attachments with a list server to the community at large is evil regardless of size. However, I do see the benefit (from time to time, using reason) that someone might want to attach a small photo, fax out, diagram or other on topic clip like some small
On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:17, Carlos E. R. wrote: source snippet or something... but common folks... not hundreds of Ks. That's just wrong. Some folks are still dialup attached (I know hard to believe) and an attachment that size is just plain rude to those folks. IMO So the list server needs some sort of final filter to prevent the abuse. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
M Harris wrote:
Some folks are still dialup attached (I know hard to believe) ...
I am one of that folks ;) From 16.8 KBps to maximum 21.6 Kbps. Sergey -- A----T Sergey Mkrtchyan, C---G Master Student, G-C Department Of Molecular Physics, T---A Faculty Of Physics, Yerevan State University A----T e-mail: mksergey[at]freenet[dot]am G---C web: http://users.freenet.am/~mksergey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 22:05 +0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
M Harris wrote:
Some folks are still dialup attached (I know hard to believe) ...
I am one of that folks ;) From 16.8 KBps to maximum 21.6 Kbps.
Ouch - not even V90... :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFu5vWtTMYHG2NR9URAnPNAJ9TD5g4W320MvIgyj6beuW0WBATeACdGj1P ZWqRbK4IcFFByi53mVtPhio= =i/Jc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Some folks are still dialup attached (I know hard to believe) ... I am one of that folks ;) From 16.8 KBps to maximum 21.6 Kbps.
Ouch - not even V90... :-(
be warned that for modem use, mail is better than web. minimal web page are of course ok, but most free temporary web sites are impossible to see from modem, due to too many adds aattachment limit near 50k is not a problem at all (most spams are bigger than that :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci - vote for us, thanks :-) http://musique.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/Magic-Alliance/ http://photo.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/jddphoto/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
be warned that for modem use, mail is better than web. minimal web page are of course ok, but most free temporary web sites are impossible to see from modem, due to too many adds
That is why I usually turn off the displaying of images in web-pages. Helps, but little ;-) Sergey -- A----T Sergey Mkrtchyan, C---G Master Student, G-C Department Of Molecular Physics, T---A Faculty Of Physics, Yerevan State University A----T e-mail: mksergey[at]freenet[dot]am G---C web: http://users.freenet.am/~mksergey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 19:45 +0100, jdd wrote:
Ouch - not even V90... :-(
be warned that for modem use, mail is better than web. minimal web page are of course ok, but most free temporary web sites are impossible to see from modem, due to too many adds
True.
aattachment limit near 50k is not a problem at all (most spams are bigger than that :-(
At the speeds Sergey has, even that is a problem. Let me see, 50 Kbytes at 18 Kbits, that is about 50 / 1.8 = 27.8 seconds. Half a minute per message. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFu7oftTMYHG2NR9URAncSAJ9JA1RyHPK7l1V7xS03GXSFXkvynACghu/L 3hFautl5ABt1K9fsSZ3sCnw= =0JGG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
At the speeds Sergey has, even that is a problem. Let me see, 50 Kbytes at 18 Kbits, that is about 50 / 1.8 = 27.8 seconds. Half a minute per message.
I know. If I have a fast dsl line my mother (born 1920, computer user from 2001 :-) have only a modem one. I pay the bill so I know it's _very cheap_ for e-mail only (from 2 to 10 Euros per month), and I happen to send her some (small) photos. and she uses e-mail nearly any day from several countries in the world :-) most mail do _not_ carry attachments. the worst are spams, then outlook express with vcards notice that friends with new 8Mpix cameras are not bas as well... but this is OT :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci - vote for us, thanks :-) http://musique.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/Magic-Alliance/ http://photo.sfrjeunestalents.fr/artiste/jddphoto/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 22:00 +0100, jdd wrote:
At the speeds Sergey has, even that is a problem. Let me see, 50 Kbytes at 18 Kbits, that is about 50 / 1.8 = 27.8 seconds. Half a minute per message.
I know. If I have a fast dsl line my mother (born 1920, computer user from 2001 :-) have only a modem one. I pay the bill so I know it's _very cheap_ for e-mail only (from 2 to 10 Euros per month), and I happen to send her some (small) photos.
and she uses e-mail nearly any day from several countries in the world :-)
Yes, discovering email is a wonderful experience.
most mail do _not_ carry attachments. the worst are spams, then outlook express with vcards
Spammers now are sending random text and html, with the real payload in a gif image. Whereas spam emails used to have 5..10 KiB, now they have 20..50 KiB. I have seen some that obfuscate the graphic with what I think must be "tempest" fonts or techniques so that OCR of the image will fail, and it will be passed by antispammers analyzing the images. It's a war :-( I have lost email communication with a relative overseas due to malware and spam crashing her computer as soon as she plugs it. A friend repairs it, it goes down in less than a month. I can't go there and install linux, too far. Damm :-/ (sorry)
notice that friends with new 8Mpix cameras are not bas as well... but this is OT :-)
Worst offenders are people using outlook from a company account. Network is no expense! So they send HUGE presentations to a hundred friends. But yes, it is OT. If only Linux was mandatory default installed system for newly bought PCs! :-P - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFu/ektTMYHG2NR9URAmkGAJ9gAn+r9J0sAx8JAP299KrGZrr+vQCfcyQy nsznaG24l2fUNpgvPKbm06Y= =DQ7s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
M Harris wrote:
Some folks are still dialup attached (I know hard to believe) ... I am one of that folks ;) From 16.8 KBps to maximum 21.6 Kbps.
Ouch - not even V90... :-(
If you knew the prices...:-) May sound strange, but it is still underdeveloped here yet. Even the University has constant problems with providing an Internet access, and when it does it is poor one. Sergey -- A----T Sergey Mkrtchyan, C---G Master Student, G-C Department Of Molecular Physics, T---A Faculty Of Physics, Yerevan State University A----T e-mail: mksergey[at]freenet[dot]am G---C web: http://users.freenet.am/~mksergey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
May sound strange, but it is still underdeveloped here yet. Even the University has constant problems with providing an Internet access, and when it does it is poor one. Sounds like you folks at the Department of Molecular Physics need to start what we over here call a grass-roots effort, and build yourselves a direct satelite feed... you know... put the dish right up there on the roof of the
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:16, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: physics building. I know its a security thing... and a political thing... and a price thing... I know. I cannot get dsl at my shop... too many wire feet from the switch. I can get broadband over cable TV--- and the price is huge... and I don't even watch TV. So, I am thinking of installing my own direct satelite linkup... we'll see. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 11:37 -0600, M Harris wrote:
Anyway, attachments of that size should be rejected by the list filter, even if On Topic, IMO. Absolutely. In fact, some folks say that distributing attachments with a list server to the community at large is evil regardless of size. However, I do see the benefit (from time to time, using reason) that someone might want to attach a small photo, fax out, diagram or other on topic clip like some small
On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:17, Carlos E. R. wrote: source snippet or something... but common folks... not hundreds of Ks.
Absolutely. However, even for small things, I feel it is better to upload somewhere, so that those people that want to see it, do so manually. Alternmatively, send directly on request to some people.
That's just wrong. Some folks are still dialup attached (I know hard to believe) and an attachment that size is just plain rude to those folks. IMO So the list server needs some sort of final filter to prevent the abuse.
Not that hard. I was on dial up till recently, and I may have to use it again ocasionally. I have friends with no internet at all during the week till they return home, and then, dialup. Those of us with some kind of adsl, cable, broadband, etc, are really fortunate. Posts to the list have got to be limited in size. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFu5t8tTMYHG2NR9URAg0lAJ97rAPHJGa/w7dpZGcwspdgyif6pACgiVCI 4wEky4csvwdumpyp3t4F/JY= =4MAk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 27 January 2007 16:26, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 13:21 +0100, Samir van de Sand wrote:
Sorry, hab ich ganz vergessen! Konntest du dich zur Prüfung noch anmelden ?
I don't understand a word of what he says, but...
"Sorry, I've completely forgotten! Were you still able to apply for the exam ?" is, what he said.
Why has this email of 1.8 MEGA bytes allowed on list? It contains a BIG attachment:
2 1.3 MB Application/X-ZIP
It contains:
Gastvortrag Brune Best Practice in MS Project 19.12.06.pdf Gastvortrag Brune Übungsprojekt UMTS Step4 19.12.06.pdf Gastvortrag Brune Übungsprojekt UMTS Balkenplan 19.12.06.pdf
It's a private mail for someone completely unrelated to opensuse (in German). Since this is not the first time he sent private mail to the list I have asked the listowner to unsubscribe him.
Otherwise we might be inflicted with bad love letters next time...
-- Sandy
List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com
Again, I'm sorry about my mail, which went into Suse mailing list, instead of the person I originally wanted to send the mail. Of course I understand, that you guys are annoyed in particular because this is already the third time that it happened to me. The problem is, that in KMail I've set a mail filter, which should set the reply-to fields of the mails of this mailing list to opensuse@opensuse.org. However, somehow this is messed up and set the reply-to fields of all my emails to opensuse@opensuse.org and that's how my private mails come into the list. Maybe someone can give me some assistance in fixing it? regards Samir -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 27 January 2007 09:14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Sorry, hab ich ganz vergessen! Konntest du dich zur Prüfung noch anmelden ?
I don't understand a word of what he says, but...
Why has this email of 1.8 MEGA bytes allowed on list? It contains a BIG attachment:
2 1.3 MB Application/X-ZIP Ist a big painen tha assin....
M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Saturday, January 27, 2007 at 16:14:12, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2007-01-27 at 13:21 +0100, Samir van de Sand wrote:
Sorry, hab ich ganz vergessen! Konntest du dich zur Prüfung noch anmelden ?
I don't understand a word of what he says, but...
Why has this email of 1.8 MEGA bytes allowed on list? It contains a BIG attachment
Because its a multipart mime message. I can either block all of those or none (at the moment). As most times multipart messages contain only usefull stuff i allow them. We are working on mime stripping for mlmmj... Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-01-29 at 14:26 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Why has this email of 1.8 MEGA bytes allowed on list? It contains a BIG attachment
Because its a multipart mime message. I can either block all of those or none (at the moment). As most times multipart messages contain only usefull stuff i allow them. We are working on mime stripping for mlmmj...
Could you at least limit the size of emails to a sensible value? Over a megabyte seems way too much, no? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFvp5atTMYHG2NR9URAgr/AJ9Qk8bmreakLw5PxnQcKmyQk7LvHQCffwdU CaEFtns6smw4oBtG2KtpS1s= =ZJE+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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