hi all I have deleted some important files with rm -f * Is there a war to recover them in SuSE 10? thanks oliver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 10:36, Mike Noble wrote:

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 01:05, Vince Oliver wrote:

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I have deleted some important files with rm -f *

Is there a war to recover them in SuSE 10?

Hope you have backups, otherwise they are gone.

Unless they are JPEG images, then you can use the recoverjpeg package to try a recovery. Works pretty good. brian -- Brian Jackson Photo Sports ~ People ~ Events http://www.BrianJacksonPhoto.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bruce Marshall wrote:

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 13:42, Brian Jackson wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 February 2007 10:36, Mike Noble wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 February 2007 01:05, Vince Oliver wrote:

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I have deleted some important files with rm -f *

Is there a war to recover them in SuSE 10?

Hope you have backups, otherwise they are gone.

Unless they are JPEG images, then you can use the recoverjpeg package to try a recovery. Works pretty good.

Google is your friend.

A google for 'linux file recover' found at least this and many other links.....

http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/

Or if they are text, and you have a big enough partition: dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/mnt/hda3_partition_image.img bs=5M I think the optimal block size is about half the rate the data is copied per second. I've not tested this thoroughly, though. then (much later) strings /mnt/hda3_partition_image.img > /mnt/hda3_partition_image_strings.txt grep -i "stuff I want" /mnt/hda3_partition_image_strings.txt | less I had to do this a week or so ago due to HDD failure :-( It took 16 hours to read the 8Gb disk because there were so many read errors. I did get back the two files I needed, though. Fortunately all the copies of the file had the same beginning and ending so I could write a quick script to pull all the copies out then diff them to find the newest. I learnt my lesson, and have set up RAID 1 and a backup cron job that copies the files to an unprivileged user account on another machine that in turn will be backed up to tape. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Please DO NOT reply to both a poster and to the list. We all read the list.... we don't need two copies of your email.

I do so to make it clear who I'm replying to in the archives. Why is that a problem? You can just tap the 'del' key. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bruce Marshall wrote:

On Thursday 01 March 2007 08:49, Russell Jones wrote:

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Please DO NOT reply to both a poster and to the list. We all read the list.... we don't need two copies of your email.

I do so to make it clear who I'm replying to in the archives. Why is that a problem? You can just tap the 'del' key.

Yep.... a permanent DEL <plonk>

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On Thursday 01 March 2007 05:49, Russell Jones wrote:

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Please DO NOT reply to both a poster and to the list. We all read the list.... we don't need two copies of your email.

I got a direct reply from you this morning, and it is also unwelcome here.

I do so to make it clear who I'm replying to in the archives. Why is that a problem? You can just tap the 'del' key.

Proper mail clients (meaning those with topic thread support (meaning everything except Outlook / Outlook Express)) make this explicit to everyone already. This is a high volume list. Manually deleting all the redundant copies that would result if your practice was common would be tiresome, tedious, unnecessary and burdensome. It has for years been the practice on this list to reply _only_ to the list and not send redundant copies to the person to whose post you're replying. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 01 March 2007 11:08, David Brodbeck wrote:

Randall R Schulz wrote:

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It has for years been the practice on this list to reply _only_ to the list and not send redundant copies to the person to whose post you're replying.

And yet, the reply-to points to the original poster.

And yes, I understand all the arguments against reply-to munging. But I don't think you can have it both ways. If you don't want people making personal replies than having reply-to pointing to the original poster's personal address makes little sense.

_That_ I agree with. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos, On Thursday 01 March 2007 11:52, Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Thursday 2007-03-01 at 11:38 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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And yes, I understand all the arguments against reply-to munging. But I don't think you can have it both ways. If you don't want people making personal replies than having reply-to pointing to the original poster's personal address makes little sense.

_That_ I agree with.

Do you want inifinte mail loops?

Of course not, and I've always supported the decision of this list's managers to refrain from inserting (overwriting) Reply-To headers. So, to clarify, I agree that people who don't want direct replies to their personal accounts should not include Reply-To in their postings. If they include a Reply-To that directs mail to their own account, then they should not complain about receiving such direct replies.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-02 at 00:05 -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Do you want inifinte mail loops?

There are problems with using reply-to munging, but with most reasonably intelligent list software mail loops are not one of them.

I'm going to have to track down that Thunderbird plugin. I didn't know there was one. I've been doing 'reply to all' and then removing the original poster's email address (when I remember.)

I still contend that having the default being to go back to the original poster, then complaining when people follow that default, is a bit silly.

It is made on purpose to avoid mail loops. Otherwise, the mail server would have to look for headers telling it that that mail went already through the server. Even so, the initial intention on some of the suse lists was to respond to the poster, not to the list; the poster was responsible, when finding the solution, to post that to the list manually. The suse spanish list was officially that way: | Date: 10 Jul 2003 12:14:53 -0000 | From: | Subject: ezmlm response | ... | | R5.4 Cuando realices una consulta, procura indicar que te contesten | por correo privado (no a la lista). Luego envía un resumen de la | información obtenida y/o una descripción de cómo solucionar el | problema a la lista. De esta forma conseguiremos que en la lista | solo aparezca información realmente útil. Cuando envíes el resumen | a la lista, toma en cuenta regla R5.3. | I don't know who had that idea and why the spanish faq is so diferent from the english one. Fortunately, nobody heeds it. Probably nobody even reads it, anyway. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF6A5XtTMYHG2NR9URAti3AJsEPEwO7SxHYqPS4WnuvUHbFJIZJACgiEMO GLaEkh+3on9YPsjlHLP2GDY= =OGSQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jos van Kan wrote:

That was what I did until someone mentioned the plugin.

http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=5996

Ah, nice. My Google search found the other one, the one that requires Enigmail, a patched version of Thunderbird, and comes with a long list of caveats. The Thunderbird package I installed must already be patched, though, because it works. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz wrote:

It has for years been the practice on this list to reply _only_ to the list and not send redundant copies to the person to whose post you're replying.

Randall Schulz

Then why are the server settings not set to reply to the group? -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:

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Then why are the server settings not set to reply to the group?

Ever seen an away message, or someone's misconfigured mail server bounces when you have posted? If replies went to the group, it would create a never ending loop.

With all the lists I've been on, I've never seen that happen. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Thursday 2007-03-01 at 20:00 -0500, James Knott wrote:

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Ever seen an away message, or someone's misconfigured mail server bounces when you have posted? If replies went to the group, it would create a never ending loop.

With all the lists I've been on, I've never seen that happen.

Because the reply to is not set to the list :-P

It is on the other lists I subscribe to. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-02 at 00:02 -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:

Most auto-responders are smart enough not to reply to mail flagged as bulk. Most are also smart enough not to send more than one auto-response per sender.

Outlook is not (on both items). I have been pestered by such autoresponders before for more than a week on a run. Very "popular" on the security list :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF6A8ktTMYHG2NR9URAiUdAJ9hvUlbmP4yfq5vnKL7kYxxxicKpACfSLeS t7NjwoyMO3onHyREgvYeWb4= =kjNR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:

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Then why are the server settings not set to reply to the group?

Ever seen an away message, or someone's misconfigured mail server bounces when you have posted? If replies went to the group, it would create a never ending loop.

For some reason that problem doesn't seem to bother a few thousand other mail servers. Is this server that poor? -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

IMHO: If the e-mail settings for the list are to reply to the sender, there should be no complaint if someone does just hit the reply. It is, after all, the way the list is engineered, so quitcherbitchin. There's a key marked "Delete" on every keyboard in existence. Take a good look and learn where it is. I use mine a LOT. There are some people in this world that could use a little "politeness" training. They snap and snarl like junk yard dogs at the least little provocation. Opinions are like A___holes. Everyone has one. Oft times they stink. ******************************************************************************************* Maybe a little notice, and a link to the extension, could be included in the wiki page. I don't recall if the was a "welcome message" when I signed on but they are de regur for most lists. Have it in the e-mail also. AND, last but not least, maybe a notice and link in the footer of the messages also. I know, most people never look at those places but........................... In case the person is new and does reply to sender a "polite" response might go a lot further. Vy iz der not zo many horziz az der iz horziz azzez? -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Once there was a man that was on a long journey. Being a beautiful day, and a great view, he decided to sit beneath a shade tree and rest a while. On a branch above him was a beautiful bird. As he sat there contemplating the beauty of the world around him the bird crapped all over him. Angrily he stood up and began wiping the bird doo off. A stranger that happened to be walking by saw all this and rushed over. "Hey, don't wipe that off. That is a Foo bird. If it craps on you it brings good luck. But, only if you leave it." Well, to make a long story short. Horrible bad luck befell the man from that day on. Moral: If the Foo shits, wear it. ************************************************************************************************ <PLONK> away all you want. Seems to be your best answer. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Billie Erin Walsh [03-06-07 10:47]:

IMHO:

If the e-mail settings for the list are to reply to the sender, there should be no complaint if someone does just hit the reply. It is, after all, the way the list is engineered, so quitcherbitchin. There's a key marked "Delete" on every keyboard in existence. Take a good look and learn where it is. I use mine a LOT.

There are some people in this world that could use a little "politeness" training. They snap and snarl like junk yard dogs at the least little provocation.

Opinions are like A___holes. Everyone has one. Oft times they stink.

granted, and you gave yours as indicated by your opening, "IMHO".

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Maybe a little notice, and a link to the extension, could be included in the wiki page. I don't recall if the was a "welcome message" when I signed on but they are de regur for most lists. Have it in the e-mail also. AND, last but not least, maybe a notice and link in the footer of the messages also. I know, most people never look at those places but...........................

Times change and apparently the faq has not.... The WELCOME message which was delivered to successful subscribers to the "suse-linux-e" list contained: Q7. Why do my replies go to the original poster and not the list? A7. There is a more complete answer in FAQ, but the short answer is that it's better this way. Trust us on this one, please. The present WELCOME message does not contain this tidbit and should (another opinion here :^) ) Have no fear, you *will* be reminded the proper function of the list should you not understand and post errantly. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 11:21, ianseeks wrote:

I just want the situation where I can just click "Forward" without having to select "As Attachment".

Replace (or add) the Forward icon in your kmail toolbar with the Inline... , or As Attachment... icon. -- Jim Barnes -- Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long -- Linux 2.6.15-27-386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 28 Feb 2007, Jeremy Baker wrote:

On February 28, 2007 01:21:57 pm ianseeks wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 Feb 2007, John Andersen wrote:

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On Tuesday 27 February 2007, ianseeks wrote:

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hi

I can't seem to forward an email that originally had an attachment. The email goes ok but the attachments are not included. Is there a setting for this? I'm using Suse 10.1, KDE 3.5.6, Kmail 1.9.6 (from within Kontact) but I've had this for a long time but have not bothered to raise any questions about it.

thanks

Ian

Forward as an attachment seems to preserve structure for me.

Yes, that seems to work for me as well. I just want the situation where I can just click "Forward" without having to select "As Attachment". maybe I am misunderstanding how Kmail is configured to work - i.e. is it a bug or a feature? I hate it when people send me emails within emails so I have to open a few attachements to get to the one on the original email.

There is a bug report about this already. Feel free to visit the kde bug site and reinforce the issue.

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91132

-- Jeremy Baker GnuPGP fingerprint = EE66 AC49 E008 E09A 7A2A  0195 50EF 580B EDBB 95B6

Thanks, i have added to the list. Seems strange that such a fundemental bug is not fixed after a few years. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org