[opensuse] Re: Trying vmware server 2 beta
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 04:29, Charles philip Chan wrote:
Yuk. What is with this new trend of web apps? I avoid them like a plague.
Zero installation Zero management Zero update handling Centralized diagnostics and monitoring Enterprise-level storage management, including backup Scalability Redundancy
The down-sides are the lingering browser incompatibilities and their so-far relatively impoverished and problematic UI programming capabilities, but these are getting better.
No, the downside here is the application domain. And that is completely independent of the specific implementation technology, that really is brain-dead in the VMware case, but which doesn't matter here a bit. Web browsers are used for browsing and, I grant you that, more and more for some applications. But a Web browser is a single application running for all tasks. When one changes aspects of the UI, the change is used for all further tasks. A console of a virtual machine is a Windows or Unix desktop. If you don't have a Unix tty console, but run Windows or X in the VM, then you need real screen estate for that. Which means that the browser window must get really large. It is not practicable to use that window configuration for other browsing tasks. It is even not practicable to use that window configuration for other Web apps. That means that for every new Window that will be opened after using that console, the staff will have to spent time to readjust the window again -- time that costs the organization's money. Similar usability constraints exists for other application domains. E.g., one wouldn't want to embed an IDE like Eclipse in a browser window either. Therefore, there are application domains where one still needs native apps, because there is the point where the loss in usability is more expensive (in terms of lost productivity) than the gain in the data center aspects that you describe. Please note that this statement is not a technical one, but is made from a business viewpoint. (I'm the CEO of an IT consulting company. We do such product selection and requirement engineering for a living.) Data center / infrastructure advantages are just *one* input in the selection process of applications, the final decision has to take other points into account, too. Btw, in a VMware ESX environment the usage pattern is different, compared to VMware Server. There, a browser-based console makes sense. That still leaves the sh*tty implementation, but sadly there ain't no other product with their feature set on the market today. Regards, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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