On Tuesday 30 December 2008 17:17:45 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Boris Epstein [12-30-08 08:04]:

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Not sure what the reflevance is to OpenSuSE but for what it's worth...

None, that's what opensuse-offtopic@opensuse.org is for and *he* knows it.

Pat ol' boy you have no people skills at all. The reason I asked on this list was that it has all the older people on it. I bet that anyone younger that about 35 don't even know what Tymeshare was. Also the reason I'm trying to find out about Tymeshare is that I'm rebuilding my resume after over 15 years staying at home taking care of my wife. Of the companies I worked for back in the early 80's I've been able to only find one. JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Pat, tell you what, I'll put you in my kill file and you can do the same. In other words, piss off. On Tuesday 30 December 2008 17:50:05 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* James Hatridge [12-30-08 11:41]:

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Pat ol' boy you have no people skills at all.

A ha, best defense is a good offense. Well, at least you tried.

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The reason I asked on this list was that it has all the older people on it.

an excuse, not a reason. By the same token, being thirsty would give me the right to open your fridge and drink your beer, and I'm frequently thirsty.

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I bet that anyone younger that about 35 don't even know what Tymeshare was.

still has nothing to do with openSUSE.

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Also the reason I'm trying to find out about Tymeshare is that I'm rebuilding my resume after over 15 years staying at home taking care of my wife.

more excuses, noble as it may be.

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Of the companies I worked for back in the early 80's I've been able to only find one.

has *what* to do with the list topics?

Many of the older (guess I fit there too) members participate in the opensuse-offtopic list. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org

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Am Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2008 18:38:04 schrieb Kai Ponte:

James Hatridge wrote:

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Pat, tell you what, I'll put you in my kill file and you can do the same. In other words, piss off.

Ahh, feel the love!

(This is - after all - what mailing lists do best!)

He didn't compare him to Hitler yet, so, hm.. it's not the real deal :D (Yep, this is just a trick to send my best wishes for the new year to everyone who's celebrating tonight ;) ) Michael

On Tuesday 30 December 2008, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* James Hatridge [01-01-70 12:34]:

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Pat, tell you what, I'll put you in my kill file and you can do the same. In other words, piss off.

Ah, point: Having a good offense != being offensive

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On Tuesday 30 December 2008 14:02, Boris Epstein wrote:

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:53 AM, James Hatridge wrote:

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Hi all,

I worked for Tymeshare back around 1980 in Dallas. Does anyone know what happened to this company?

Thanks,

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http://tymeshare.com/index.html ?

Not sure what the reflevance is to OpenSuSE but for what it's worth...

Not quite maybe.. As for where some googling went: Quoted from http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/articles/961202/archive_035091_3.htm "MCDONNELL DOUGLAS Recent acquisitions: None since Hughes Helicopters and also Tyme Share information services in 1984" So apparently it doesnt exist anymore. I also found this link: http://216.122.129.112/dc/dcboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=13&topic_id=66 Looking at it revealed: We have the internet because of Michael Michael (Michael James Riconosciuto). Tymesharing, the early form of communicating between computers over voice capable lines, was named after his company, Tymeshare. He was 18, it was 1965 when his company together with Dartmouth College got two computers communicating from coast to coast. So even if its a bit OT, its still relevant for all of us, as we couldnt flame eachother here without his initial work...

James Hatridge wrote:

That's right, Tymeshare built Tymenet. Tymenet was one of the five nets that was connected to make the internet. I've been trying to find sometype of address for them to put in a new resume, but it seems that they are out of business. That's what I'll put on the resume "out of business". :(

Jim, why does it matter whether the company you worked is now in business or not? I've got four previous employers that no longer exist - they were either bought up, merged with others or otherwise. I don't put that on my CV, I don't think it matters (that the company went down the drain after I left :-) /Per -- /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Hatridge wrote:

Hi Per et al, On Wednesday 31 December 2008 11:27:54 Per Jessen wrote:

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Jim, why does it matter whether the company you worked is now in business or not? I've got four previous employers that no longer exist - they were either bought up, merged with others or otherwise. I don't put that on my CV, I don't think it matters (that the company went down the drain after I left :-)

(unless you helped it go down the drain! :) )

The deal is I've only wrote an American style resume and I need to make a German one. I dug out my wife's resume (she had a medical PhD) and it has everything about her going from first grade to a copy of her PhD.

Yeah, I've seen those - my own only lists the last university/ Fachhochschule I went to, I'm not sure I would want to work for someone who's interested in where I started school when I was 6 :-) Jokes aside - I've worked in four different countries (including Germany) over the last 16 years, and my CV shows it. My attitude is - I'm not local and I can't pass for being one (my name gives it away immediately). If I were to make my CV like a standard Swiss CV, it would be a little fake. Mine (last time I looked at it) has what I consider pertinent information in a format I think is right, with suitable admissions not to upset the locals too much :-) My thinking is - anyone reading that CV will know "you're not from around here and your CV shows it; you're not pretending to be something you're not." - not sure if your Arbeitsamt would agree with my thinking though.

Back to my resume, its been almost 20 years since I needed one and I'm trying to rebuild my US resume just from memory. This is not easy! I don't know how close a German company checks old employers, but I would hate to have them call up Tymeshare (for example) and get "Joe's Bar"! :) So that's why when possible I want to write on the resume what happened to the old company. Between now and the 5th I want to rewrite my US resume. I think that would help when we start working on the German one. Make sense?

Yep, makes a lot of sense. Good luck with it and einen guten Rutsch to you too! /Per -- /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 31 December 2008 11:27, Per Jessen wrote:

James Hatridge wrote:

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That's right, Tymeshare built Tymenet. Tymenet was one of the five nets that was connected to make the internet. I've been trying to find sometype of address for them to put in a new resume, but it seems that they are out of business. That's what I'll put on the resume "out of business". :(

Jim, why does it matter whether the company you worked is now in business or not? I've got four previous employers that no longer exist - they were either bought up, merged with others or otherwise. I don't put that on my CV, I don't think it matters (that the company went down the drain after I left :-)

/Per

-- /Per Jessen, ZÃŒrich

Its always nice to back you claims "I've been a computer tech since 1949" up with proof. No matter if the company is still in the market or not. If i worked 5 years as a CEO for X.co. and left ten years ago, its still relevant if i apply for a position as CEO (or anything else for that matter) in Y inc. Even if Xco went out of service five years ago due to a hostile takeover from M$...

HI Per et al, On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:05:58 Per Jessen wrote:

Rikard Johnels wrote:

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On Wednesday 31 December 2008 11:27, Per Jessen wrote:

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James Hatridge wrote:

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That's right, Tymeshare built Tymenet. Tymenet was one of the five nets that was connected to make the internet. I've been trying to find sometype of address for them to put in a new resume, but it seems that they are out of business. That's what I'll put on the resume "out of business". :(

Jim, why does it matter whether the company you worked is now in business or not? I've got four previous employers that no longer exist - they were either bought up, merged with others or otherwise. I don't put that on my CV, I don't think it matters (that the company went down the drain after I left :-)

/Per

-- /Per Jessen, ZÃŒrich

Its always nice to back you claims "I've been a computer tech since 1949" up with proof.

That's easy - keep your written references.

The problem with that is that US companies don't give written references, or at least did not back in the 70's & 80's. JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen wrote:

James Hatridge wrote:

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Its always nice to back you claims "I've been a computer tech since 1949" up with proof.

That's easy - keep your written references.

The problem with that is that US companies don't give written references, or at least did not back in the 70's & 80's.

Ah, that IS a problem, yes.

As I understand it, they're reluctant to provide much beyond "Yes, he worked here", for fear of getting sued for: a) saying something the former employee doesn't like b) not saying something that would indicate to a prospective employer that the applicant is not suitable. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2009-01-04 at 16:20 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:

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That's easy - keep your written references.

The problem with that is that US companies don't give written references, or at least did not back in the 70's & 80's.

Ah, that IS a problem, yes.

They don't give them in Spain, for example. I only have one from a supervisor. Companies don't seem to exepct them, either. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklh+KgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XkoACeNB3miQfHxKB7FyxpZNJKR0gB 3dIAn3agstETwACKEhBqtqztZnXgJDom =24od -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-01-05 at 13:21 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: [references]

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They don't give them in Spain, for example. I only have one from a supervisor. Companies don't seem to exepct them, either.

In Switzerland they're quite an important part of your job-application, and you're entitled (by law) to a reference when you leave an employer.

Curious.

I don't think they're really of much importance except for perhaps the first one or two jobs you have, but if you need proof to back your CV, they're quite handy. I can't remember last time anyone saw my references.

Here, you can get instead a computer printout from the social security (government agency) which lists all jobs you had. This paper is some times required by companies. It doesn't list positions accurately, of course, only the official data. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklh/rMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XqMwCfaK/UdcSXkpurhklqS+bE7KJv OdYAn0C0v8KjKQp7m+Z5/vftygM4LHAo =pM6U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-01-05 at 14:26 +0100, James Hatridge wrote:

Are you talking about the US SS? If so, what form is that?

Nope. Just read the top of the email you sent you'll find out where I'm from :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkliEoUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VZEgCeLM29kHkjJgT0Mh7zOKjO7P8A Z2YAmgIRWYX4qJrX2ENHGv4G/KRqdY8r =HK/b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org