From the KDE:/KDE3 repository? (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/) On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote:

Hi !

I am too had this problem on 2 workstations. For me it looks like KDE 3.5 problem supplied on original 11.0 DVD. Running KDE 4 is fine, after updating KDE 3.5 with newer patches problem have gone.

I would be really interested to listen someone else opinion.

On Saturday 13 September 2008 08:19:28 pm Ted Markowitz wrote:

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I just purchased a new Dell Inspiron 530 tower system (Intel(R) Core™2 Quad processor Q6600, 6Gb RAM, 750Gb disk, Intel on-board G33 video chipset---which I'd rather not be using, but that was what the system package had in it) to act primarily as a server machine in my home office. It came with 64-bit Vista installed (of course), and once I figured out how to partition the all-Vista disk into a much smaller Vista partition (not as easy as it sounds since the Vista partitioner won't let you shrink volumes past the point where it keeps some system files, no matter how hard you try to get rid of them, but that's another story), I repartitioned the rest of the disk to be Linux friendly.

I then installed openSUSE 11.0 on it (I've done this several times before on other systems of mine), upgraded with all the latest patches and updates, and got ready to run with it. Although it seemed to run OK---for a while anyway---it's frozen up on me at least 3 or 4 times in the last two days: twice when I wasn't using it actively and another time as I was typing away in a KDE session. Nothing would respond: couldn't restart X (Ctrl-Alt-BS twice) and couldn't reboot from the keyboard (Ctrl-Alt-Del). I needed to do a full power-off/power-on to get it up and running again.

Looking for some cause, I checked dmesg, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for hints as to what may be happening. Unfortunately there's absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in any of them; no warning messages, no kernel panic, no nothing. The logs look perfectly normal up till the point of the freeze and then the booting msgs appear after I push the power button.

Anyone have any ideas or experiences (good/bad) with a similar configuration? I have all Dell's in my office, so in principle this one should work too. The only major differences are the fact that this one is a Quad-core machine and that it's using the on-board Intel graphics chipset for video. All my others are single CPU's or Core 2 Duo's, and the video on those is either ATI or NVidia.

One other piece of evidence: since I need to get this thing up and running now, I installed the latest Ubuntu 8.04 on another partition to see if the distro might have anything to do with it. For the past 24 hours or so,it hasn't hicupped yet. Honestly, I'd rather stick with SUSE on all my systems and can still multi-boot back into it, but I need a stable system ASAP.

Any pointers or aid would be much appreciated.

TIA,

//ted

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On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote:

On Sunday 14 September 2008 02:43:19 am Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

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From the KDE:/KDE3 repository? (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/)

Yes

I'm going to try that. It's gotten to the point that I open a document in OpenOffice and type a few lines of text and it just crashes for no reason. I've considered going back to Windows because I don't have a single machine running openSUSE 11.0 that I can say is 100% stable. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Sunday 2008-09-14 at 13:26 -0400, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

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I'm going to try that. It's gotten to the point that I open a document in OpenOffice and type a few lines of text and it just crashes for no reason. I've considered going back to Windows because I don't have a single machine running openSUSE 11.0 that I can say is 100% stable.

Mine is stable. But I use gnome mostly. And I do have reiserfs partitions, though not root or home.

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Lew, Never have used reiserfs; I use regular ext3 on all my systems. Must be something else I guess. At this point Ubuntu is still up and running fine since the install, so I may just keep using it and try to figure out what's really going on later on. I'll just chalk it up as another Linux learning experience with a Debian-based distro after years of Fedora and now SUSE. I can multi-boot to suse 11.0 (along with Vista), so I can still go back to it, when I have the time. Tnx, //ted Lew Wolfgang said the following on 09/14/2008 01:02 AM:

(Top posting makes sense here)

Hi Ted,

I had similar problems with an HP Quad almost like your configuration. Mine has an Nvidia graphics adapter. I completely blew away Vista and partitioned the disk with reiserfs.

My freezing went away when I repartitioned with ext3. I think this is a known problem that also goes away if you can get to the first on-line update. I could never make it that far. Did you partition with reiserfs?

Regards, Lew

Ted Markowitz wrote:

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I just purchased a new Dell Inspiron 530 tower system (Intel® Core™2 Quad processor Q6600, 6Gb RAM, 750Gb disk, Intel on-board G33 video chipset---which I'd rather not be using, but that was what the system package had in it) to act primarily as a server machine in my home office. It came with 64-bit Vista installed (of course), and once I figured out how to partition the all-Vista disk into a much smaller Vista partition (not as easy as it sounds since the Vista partitioner won't let you shrink volumes past the point where it keeps some system files, no matter how hard you try to get rid of them, but that's another story), I repartitioned the rest of the disk to be Linux friendly.

I then installed openSUSE 11.0 on it (I've done this several times before on other systems of mine), upgraded with all the latest patches and updates, and got ready to run with it. Although it seemed to run OK---for a while anyway---it's frozen up on me at least 3 or 4 times in the last two days: twice when I wasn't using it actively and another time as I was typing away in a KDE session. Nothing would respond: couldn't restart X (Ctrl-Alt-BS twice) and couldn't reboot from the keyboard (Ctrl-Alt-Del). I needed to do a full power-off/power-on to get it up and running again.

Looking for some cause, I checked dmesg, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for hints as to what may be happening. Unfortunately there's absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in any of them; no warning messages, no kernel panic, no nothing. The logs look perfectly normal up till the point of the freeze and then the booting msgs appear after I push the power button.

Anyone have any ideas or experiences (good/bad) with a similar configuration? I have all Dell's in my office, so in principle this one should work too. The only major differences are the fact that this one is a Quad-core machine and that it's using the on-board Intel graphics chipset for video. All my others are single CPU's or Core 2 Duo's, and the video on those is either ATI or NVidia.

One other piece of evidence: since I need to get this thing up and running now, I installed the latest Ubuntu 8.04 on another partition to see if the distro might have anything to do with it. For the past 24 hours or so,it hasn't hicupped yet. Honestly, I'd rather stick with SUSE on all my systems and can still multi-boot back into it, but I need a stable system ASAP.

Any pointers or aid would be much appreciated.

TIA,

//ted

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