On Sat November 21 2009 1:05:10 pm you wrote:

On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 12:34 -0500, Richard Creighton wrote:

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On Fri November 20 2009 7:11:24 am Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Friday 20 Nov 2009 11:50:49 Lars M�ller wrote:

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A lot of the features are developed for the SUSE Linux Enterprise products. Should we keep them out of openSUSE to paint a nicer picture?

Well that actually is not a bad idea at all LVM just clutters things up on a desktop its a flaming pain to have the partitioner trrry to insist on using LVM even raid now is becoming less useful and in the home even for home servers sata drives are so darn huge now that raid is almost irrelevent

Actually, RAID is MORE important due to the large, cheap drives now available. Backups are nearly impossible using conventional means.

<snip> It a bit of another topic ;-)

While I tend to agree, it was in context with the posting thread of changing things by default in new releases, be it SSHD or in this chase, LVM/RAID which was brought up.

Traditional backup's (that is, on tape is indeed problamatic)

Especially with the larger drives now available and inexpensive.

However, having your main storage on raid-0 for speed,

I would NEVER recommend RAID0 for any storage, it is way too sensitive to single drive failure and is nowhere near as flexible as LVM in terms of expandability and other maintenance. RAID1 is IMO, the minimum RAID that is of value with LVM replacing RAID 0 if you want that type of functionality (backup somewhere else often, of course).

and making backup's on either usb-disks or raid-1 or raid-5 on a remote system (rsnapshot!) works very nice and safely...

Yup, however, I don't recommend any SINGLE DRIVE destination, especially USB disks for many reasons. Backups of large datasets *need* to be done onto fault-tolerant media and that really implies some form of RAID>=1, IMO. USB RAID doesn't exist, does it? -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org