Thanks Sid, On Saturday 07 May 2005 13:04, Sid Boyce wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Hi fellows, I am sorry to be late getting back to you. I have been trying those things suggested in response to the request: "9.3, usb, scanners" and reading the recommended documentation and making trials. but no luck anywhere. The results of my efforts are within.
On Friday 06 May 2005 06:30, Sid Boyce wrote: snip> The above now gives me a "Connection refused" error message.
Did you issue "lppasswd -a root"?.
No, since it is only me who uses this machine,
lsusb produces the following: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 050d:0224 Belkin Components F5U224 USB 2.0 4-Port Hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 003: ID 03f0:2d11 Hewlett-Packard Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 (Logitech is my mouse, The hp is my 6110 all-in-one)
sane-find-scanner produces the following (plus irrelevant lines): found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x2d11 [OfficeJet 6100 Series]) at libusb:002:003
scanimage -L produces the following output: No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something ... snip> I'm getting the same here and I've been at it for a couple of hours, without getting it to work, I may try building xscanimage and see if that will do it. As always, vuescan from http://www.hamrick.com automatically finds and is able to use the scanner without any need for configuration. Sorry, what is xscanimage? Should I have it? lsmod|grep usblp produces: usblp 13568 0 usbcore 113520 7 usbserial,hid,usblp,ehci_hdc,uhci_hcd
my /dev contains: /dev/scanners/cuecat
That's always there, presumably for if you have a cuecat.
am I supposed to have a matching entry in my /media directory as I have for other usb devices?
My /media is empty as I haven't got anything mounted, it's only for mounted devices like floppies and CD's.
As I expected.
what is udev ?
udev builds devices in /dev whenever you boot up.
Thanks Sid.
Yast detects and installs my hp 6110 scanner.
YaST says it's configuring drivers for it, but doesn't detect my scanner.
Different behaviour for different brands or different users???
But then The GIMP says "No devices available"
should I have an entry in fstab?
/etc/fstab is OK.
The quoted reference: http://www.avasys.jp/cgi-bin/lx/bbs/en/scanner-bbs/hyperbbs.cgi?mode=view ;Code=72 says that I should have an entry /etc/hotplug/usb/libusbscanner script I have the directory(s), but no script.
Same here.
I went into Yast to try to re-install the printer and the scanner but am presented with a lot of jargon It recognises the scanner and applies the SANE driver: hpoj It then offers me a test button, but that fails. Then Yast says it is installed and Connected to PTAL (But it isn't)
YaST doesn't even see mine.
Yast auto-detects the correct printer. If I try to connect directly via usb the test printer fails, if I try CUPS I have the choice of CUPS client only (which I chose) or networked. This asked for the server's name - what is that? I gave it the name of my machine - which hung Yast. (The promised time-out didn't) On re-visiting Yast the system says it is connected to /dev/usb/lp0 The offered printer test fails.
No errors under /var/log/cups/ ?
The last few lines are: I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Saving printers.conf... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] New printer 'hp_officejet61001' added by 'root'. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Saving printers.conf... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Saving classes.conf... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Default destination set to 'OfficejetColor' by 'root'. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Scheduler shutting down normally. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Loaded configuration file "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Configured for up to 100 clients. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Allowing up to 100 client connections per host. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Full reload is required. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] LoadPPDs: Read "/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 3592 PPDs... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Full reload complete. I [07/May/2005:01:55:57 +1000] Scheduler shutting down normally.
since it is a stand-alone machine, my machine is the server for CUPS -
yes it is.
Your server name should be what your local machine is called rather than the ISP's as you are setting up the machine as a firewall for any other boxes on the LAN.
How do I change it back? Sid, I think it was you who told me how to change it back, but I cannot find the method :-) Anyway, I don't remember what it was! Can I change it to anything I fancy without upsetting other things?
Thanks for all your efforts. Regards, Colin
It's quite frustrating, for the printer, all I can think of at present is to have another go at "lppasswd -a root".
Change to? Can I use this to remove any password? How? man and info discuss removing users, and I see how to change the passwd, but not how to totally remove any requirement for a password. :-) :
On the scanner, all seems to be as it should be, but it's not working for "scanimage -L" or xsane, but is fine with vuescan. Hmmmmmmm.... after running vuescan, kooka now finds my scanner with the epson setup in YaST. barrabas:/ftp/May05 # scanimage -L device `epson:libusb:002:009' is a Epson Perfection610 flatbed scanner
For vuesca82.tgz .... # mkdir /usr/local/vuescan # cd /usr/local/vuescan # tar zxfv vuescan82.tgz in that directory, then # ln -s /usr/local/vuescan/vuescan /usr/local/bin/ # vuescan Regards Sid.
I looked at your vuescan site. Looks interesting, but I don't feel inclined to get into paying for a scanning prog while I can't even get this thing going. Regards, and many thanks. Colin
Colin Carter wrote:
Thanks Sid,
On Saturday 07 May 2005 13:04, Sid Boyce wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Hi fellows, I am sorry to be late getting back to you. I have been trying those things suggested in response to the request: "9.3, usb, scanners" and reading the recommended documentation and making trials. but no luck anywhere. The results of my efforts are within.
On Friday 06 May 2005 06:30, Sid Boyce wrote: snip> The above now gives me a "Connection refused" error message.
Did you issue "lppasswd -a root"?.
Try it. You can get "Connection refused" if you are not part of group "lp". You can also add your user account.
No, since it is only me who uses this machine,
Sorry, what is xscanimage? Should I have it?
No it's much like xsane, just another scanner app.
lsmod|grep usblp produces:
Different behaviour for different brands or different users???
If it detects a scanner or multiple scanners, they can all be configured.
No errors under /var/log/cups/ ?
The last few lines are: I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Saving printers.conf... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] New printer 'hp_officejet61001' added by 'root'. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Saving printers.conf... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Saving classes.conf... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Default destination set to 'OfficejetColor' by 'root'. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Scheduler shutting down normally. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Loaded configuration file "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Configured for up to 100 clients. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Allowing up to 100 client connections per host. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Full reload is required. I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] LoadPPDs: Read "/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 3592 PPDs... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs... I [07/May/2005:01:54:44 +1000] Full reload complete. I [07/May/2005:01:55:57 +1000] Scheduler shutting down normally.
Looks good.
How do I change it back? Sid, I think it was you who told me how to change it back, but I cannot find the method :-) Anyway, I don't remember what it was! Can I change it to anything I fancy without upsetting other things?
YaST --> Network Devices ---> Edit the internal ethernet device after clicking on the "Hostname and Namserver" bar. Your external ethernet card should be configured to get its IP address via dhcp from your DSL router/cablemodem. Assuming your configuration is one ethernet card for the internal LAN and another one for the external LAN --> DSL.
I looked at your vuescan site. Looks interesting, but I don't feel inclined to get into paying for a scanning prog while I can't even get this thing going.
You can download the Linux version for free, there is no need to purchase it. The other times I've used it, there was no timeout on it's use and it's a surefire way of checking your scanner works if nothing else. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:15 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
Thanks Sid,
On Saturday 07 May 2005 13:04, Sid Boyce wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Hi fellows, I am sorry to be late getting back to you. I have been trying those things suggested in response to the request: "9.3, usb, scanners" and reading the recommended documentation and making trials. but no luck anywhere. The results of my efforts are within.
On Friday 06 May 2005 06:30, Sid Boyce wrote: snip> The above now gives me a "Connection refused" error message.
Did you issue "lppasswd -a root"?.
No, since it is only me who uses this machine,
It does not matter how many people use the machine. It is not a login
account but controls access to the underlying printer configuration.
Until you set up access you will have problems. Actually I believe it
should be:
lppasswd -g sys -a
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:15 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
Thanks Sid,
On Saturday 07 May 2005 13:04, Sid Boyce wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Hi fellows, I am sorry to be late getting back to you. I have been trying those things suggested in response to the request: "9.3, usb, scanners" and reading the recommended documentation and making trials. but no luck anywhere. The results of my efforts are within.
On Friday 06 May 2005 06:30, Sid Boyce wrote: snip> The above now gives me a "Connection refused" error message.
Did you issue "lppasswd -a root"?.
No, since it is only me who uses this machine,
It does not matter how many people use the machine. It is not a login account but controls access to the underlying printer configuration. Until you set up access you will have problems. Actually I believe it should be: lppasswd -g sys -a
The name can be anything and does not have to match a user account. Thanks Ken. I just modified my host name (see my response to Sid's note) and now I
On Saturday 07 May 2005 21:27, Ken Schneider wrote: tried to look at your suggestion, but kde now refuses to open a Konsole saying it cannot initialise same. And clicking on Yast does nothing except throw up an egg timer for a few seconds. .............. Back again :-) After typing the above few lines everything stopped, couldn't do anything much. But I did manage to "Logout" then "End session only" which allowed me to log in as root and set the host name back to what it was... phew! Ken, I tried your suggestion (which sounds about right to a newbie) The response was to prompt me for a password and confirm same. But when I try to print I get: An error occurred while retrieving the printer list: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused. Do I have to use lppasswd to add the user (me) ? And, as I asked Sid, why do I have to go to all this trouble when the printer was working fine only a week ago? Thanks again Ken. Sorry to be a newbie for so long.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge Regards, Colin
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:15 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
It does not matter how many people use the machine. It is not a login account but controls access to the underlying printer configuration. Until you set up access you will have problems. Actually I believe it should be: lppasswd -g sys -a
The name can be anything and does not have to match a user account. Thanks Ken. I just modified my host name (see my response to Sid's note) and now I On Saturday 07 May 2005 21:27, Ken Schneider wrote: tried to look at your suggestion, but kde now refuses to open a Konsole saying it cannot initialise same. And clicking on Yast does nothing except throw up an egg timer for a few seconds. .............. Back again :-) After typing the above few lines everything stopped, couldn't do anything much. But I did manage to "Logout" then "End session only" which allowed me to log in as root and set the host name back to what it was... phew!
Ken, I tried your suggestion (which sounds about right to a newbie) The response was to prompt me for a password and confirm same. But when I try to print I get:
An error occurred while retrieving the printer list: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused.
Do I have to use lppasswd to add the user (me) ?
And, as I asked Sid, why do I have to go to all this trouble when the printer was working fine only a week ago? Thanks again Ken. Sorry to be a newbie for so long. lppasswd is only to add a user to the cups environment. It is there so
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 02:21 +1000, Colin Carter wrote: that a more secure means of configuring printers was available. Read the docs in /usr/share/doc/packages/cups. The user you setup is only there to add/remove/modify the printer sub-system, -not- for giving it's blessing to print jobs. If it worked two weeks ago and does not work now it would lead me to think that either the printer is broken and someone fiddled with the configuration files somewhere. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Saturday 07 May 2005 21:27, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:15 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
should be: lppasswd -g sys -a
The name can be anything and does not have to match a user account. Thanks Ken. snip > Ken, I tried your suggestion (which sounds about right to a newbie) snip> Do I have to use lppasswd to add the user (me) ? snip> lppasswd is only to add a user to the cups environment. It is there so On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 02:21 +1000, Colin Carter wrote: that a more secure means of configuring printers was available. Read the docs in /usr/share/doc/packages/cups. The user you setup is only there to add/remove/modify the printer sub-system, -not- for giving it's blessing to print jobs. Thanks Ken. This is what I (newbie) would have expected. Confirmation is appreciated. If it worked two weeks ago and does not work now it would lead me to think that either the printer is broken and someone fiddled with the configuration files somewhere. Yes, I agree Ken. The printer still prints and scans when hooked up to my old XP laptop, and I cannot find any "reset to factory settings" notes in my hp printer manual so I don't believe XP offended it. Hence I agree when you say you suspect that "someone" fiddled with config files. Problem is that there is only me (and possibly green gremlins) using
On Sunday 08 May 2005 04:25, Ken Schneider wrote: this machine :) I cringe every time I have to wind up the old XP just to print or scan :-( Regards, Colin
On Saturday 07 May 2005 21:27, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 17:15 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
Thanks Sid,
On Saturday 07 May 2005 13:04, Sid Boyce wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Hi fellows, I am sorry to be late getting back to you. I have been trying those things suggested in response to the request: "9.3, usb, scanners" and reading the recommended documentation and making trials. but no luck anywhere. The results of my efforts are within.
On Friday 06 May 2005 06:30, Sid Boyce wrote: snip> The above now gives me a "Connection refused" error message.
Until you set up access you will have problems. Actually I believe it should be: lppasswd -g sys -a
The name can be anything and does not have to match a user account. -- Ken Schneider
In one of my earlier postings I mentioned that (1) During set-up of my IDSL I accidently changed my host name to that of my ISP; i.e. to exetel This, exetel, became my prompt when logged in as root (2) I changed it to MyPC and nothing worked (not Konsole, Konqueror, Yast) ... big sweat until I managed to switch to root and change back to exetel (3) now my root prompt is back to exetel (4) cups still fails, so I went into root and noted that cups is running, so I tried to print as root, but access was denied. I checked the printer settings and noticed that the printer host is set to MyPC. How can this be? When I changed my host from exetel to MyPC I did nothing to cups, so somehow Yast must have done it. If this is so, then when I changed it from MyPC to exetel why didn't Yast change it back? Surely it couldn't be because I changed the Yast installation source? I performed a search on my disk for "cups", and then looked into each file found but newbie could see nothing likely to cause a problem. Meanwhile I am ploughing, again, through the cups docs. Thanks for any suggestions. Regards, Colin
On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:49, Colin Carter wrote:
(2) I changed it to MyPC and nothing worked (not Konsole, Konqueror, Yast) ... big sweat until I managed to switch to root and change back to exetel
The reason for this is normally that the access to the X server is by hostnmae, and the access 'cookie' you were give on login had the old hostname. When you change your hostname, it's normally enough to log out and log back in for things to start working again
On Sunday 08 May 2005 13:59, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:49, Colin Carter wrote:
(2) I changed it to MyPC and nothing worked (not Konsole, Konqueror, Yast) ... big sweat until I managed to switch to root and change back to exetel
The reason for this is normally that the access to the X server is by hostnmae, and the access 'cookie' you were give on login had the old hostname.
When you change your hostname, it's normally enough to log out and log back in for things to start working again Thanks Anders. Did you read how it effected my printing? Given what you said, it sounds like the best thing I could do is
change my host name back to MyPC Re-boot my PC. and try setting up my printer again But would it effect my ADSL, email, et cetera? I need to "stay on air". Regards, Colin
On Sunday 08 May 2005 06:20, Colin Carter wrote:
Did you read how it effected my printing?
Yes, but without further investigation I'm not sure what caused it
Given what you said, it sounds like the best thing I could do is
change my host name back to MyPC Re-boot my PC. and try setting up my printer again
But would it effect my ADSL, email, et cetera?
I have seen one ADSL connection which required you to have a particular host name set. But then I've seen a few hundred that didn't. It is possible that it has an effect, but extremely unlikely Assuming you have a working internet connection, and assuming you're not running your own mail server, your local host name should have no effect at all on your email, that's a setting local to your email client. As for "et cetera", it is possible that some program or other has the host name hard coded, but you would have had to set it up manually, so you would know about it.
I need to "stay on air".
Understandable, but it shouldn't be a problem
On Sunday 08 May 2005 06:20, Colin Carter wrote:
Did you read how it effected my printing?
Yes, but without further investigation I'm not sure what caused it Thanks.
Given what you said, it sounds like the best thing I could do is
change my host name back to MyPC Re-boot my PC. and try setting up my printer again
But would it effect my ADSL, email, et cetera?
I have seen one ADSL connection which required you to have a particular host name set. But then I've seen a few hundred that didn't. It is possible that it has an effect, but extremely unlikely Thanks again. Assuming you have a working internet connection, and assuming you're not running your own mail server, your local host name should have no effect at all on your email, that's a setting local to your email client. And again. As for "et cetera", it is possible that some program or other has the host name hard coded, but you would have had to set it up manually, so you would know about it.
I need to "stay on air".
Understandable, but it shouldn't be a problem Thanks for all that feed-back; much appreciated. I've been reading cups docs and trying so many things this morning (Sydney)
On Sunday 08 May 2005 14:25, Anders Johansson wrote: that I think I need a coffee break before I fall over... Regards, Colin
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