On Friday 11 May 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Joe Morris (NTM) [05-11-07 20:41]:

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Since the Build Service has become such a wealth of packages, is there any way to search for a package there? I realize there is individual indexes for a particular version for adding as a Yast source, but there are a number of times I have wondered if a certain package was available, but searching through every directory and subdirectory is a daunting task. Just wondering if there already exists such a thing, which I think would be a very helpful feature.

http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/

Why would anyone know about that? And why isn't it on the build service or at least hosted at opensuse? I run into the same problem often. Google sometimes helps but I can't believe an search and index was not builtin from the ground up. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* John Andersen [05-12-07 07:16]:

On Friday 11 May 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/

Why would anyone know about that? And why isn't it on the build service or at least hosted at opensuse?

I run into the same problem often. Google sometimes helps but I can't believe an search and index was not builtin from the ground up.

I have record of it mentioned in "opensuse" list in no less than 8 posting since 12 Dec last not counting this thread :^) not much but it is HERE. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-05-12 at 15:55 +0200, Stephan Binner wrote:

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http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/

Why would anyone know about that? And why isn't it on the build service or

It was linked from http://software.opensuse.org for a long time until the service had a temporary problem and the link was removed. Should be readded.

But it doesn't list all... I tried searching for OpenOffice, and it found only two places for 10.2, with only version 2.0.4 available: Results from http://.../suse/update/10.2 Results from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse But it doesn't list .../opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org/openSUSE_10.2, which contains a much recent version. Why it's not found? Shouldn't it? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGR57VtTMYHG2NR9URAkBGAJ93brN/IGlKYYp79VF1SHMS1HJoEQCcDnJu SFYtDW/fesCfHKa2h265+7c= =zI2N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-05-14 at 10:58 +0100, Benji Weber wrote:

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But it doesn't list all... I tried searching for OpenOffice, and it found only two places for 10.2, with only version 2.0.4 available:

Results from http://.../suse/update/10.2 Results from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse

But it doesn't list .../opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org/openSUSE_10.2, which contains a much recent version.

Why it's not found? Shouldn't it?

Only the top results are returned, There are hundreds of matches for openoffice, searching for http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=openoffice_org-kde shows up the repository you mentioned.

Let me see if I can duplicate. I go to http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/, I type "openoffice", enter, and I only see those two sites (oss and update servers), I do not see where I can click to expand the search to get those missing repositories. I get here: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?distro=openSUSE_102&searchTerm=openoffice And as I say, I only see two repos: update and oss, with several packages each, but only of version 2.0.4 (twenty files in total, not hundreds). However, if I search for "openoffice_org-kde" instead (why should I type such a long name when searching for "openfoffice" I dunno) then I get three entries: updates, oss, and finally, the repo I wanted (three files in total). I don't understand why typing a more precise search word (it requires me knowing the exact filename I want, and I may not know it) finds more server entries. It should be the contrary. But I never see the hundreds of matches you mention. Do results depend on something on the client side? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGSDwetTMYHG2NR9URAtMWAJ9094Fy/xmKz/+f6brEQ8bEFGJANwCdGdrR PpFy8WEzqN+Gq4J6qFPCKQE= =vlDd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-05-14 at 12:20 +0100, Benji Weber wrote:

Neither found more, in each case the top 20 results only were shown. The results in the main repository were being ranked higher because they had more search term matches in the package name, the summary, and the files contained in the package. Hence the "openoffice" package from the build service repository was being dropped off the bottom.

Ah, I see. The search finds many, but only the top found are shown.

btw there are over 300 packages matching openoffice either in the name, filelists, or summary.

I have adjusted the ranking so this case will work better

http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=openoffice

will now show results from all 3 repositories.

Yes, I just tried.

Also things like

http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=nx

will work better

Adding result paging would be possible, but I don't know of anyone who actually bothers to look at multiple pages of results so it's probably better to improve the ranking system where you spot problems like this.

A toggle to show all results? Or to show top 20, top 50, top 120, say?

In the future with the software portal project we'll have a better metric - user rating to apply to search results.

It is indeed a very usefull tool. I have been following the mesages about it for some time, but never actually tried till today. I hope to see it growing ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGSFqNtTMYHG2NR9URAmePAJ9kQ2wWIwv8Gn3IDTMIz1W8eZePwQCeOibD XEFCsLbODcbWv0iVH4bJSdc= =li29 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org