Hi I just got that USB camera for gift... Now I was looking how install it under SuSE 8.0 I'm really scared now! There is few modules, that requires compiling my own kernel, apply patches etc etc... And common to all of them is very poor documentation! This can't be right, right??? So, how to install that camera so, that I could use some SW to get pictures/video out of it under SuSE 8.0 ?? jaska.
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 12:11, jaakko wrote:
So, how to install that camera so, that I could use some SW to get pictures/video out of it under SuSE 8.0 ??
I have the QuickCam 3000 Pro. I am not sure how it compares to 4000. However, I can tell you 3000 uses the pwc module. I did not have to download or compile it. Just modprobe pwc. You will probably have a very small picture. If the picture is too small, you need the pwcx module. This one did not seem to be on my system, so I downloaded it. You will have to insmod -f, and it will give you a warning about contaminating the kernel, but it works fine. As far as software, camstream works great for me. On http://home.earthlink.net/~bryantyson/techoffc.htm The "Apartment Cam" is the Logitech Quickcam 3000 Pro running on SuSE 8.0 and camstream. Camstream is also running the "Media Cam." Much helpful information is found here: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ Don't worry that it says Philips, because the Philips uses the same driver, at least in the case of the Logitech 3000 Pro. *************************************************** Powered by SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional KDE 3.0.0 KMail 1.4 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ***************************************************
Hi The ready made binary module from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ does not load, even with the -f (force) option for insmod. And when I try compile the pwc.o module, I get an error about missing include file, that can't be found anywhere... (pwc-dec.h) This is starting to get ridiculous.... Jaska. On Wednesday 30 October 2002 21:08, Bryan Tyson wrote:
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 12:11, jaakko wrote:
So, how to install that camera so, that I could use some SW to get pictures/video out of it under SuSE 8.0 ??
I have the QuickCam 3000 Pro. I am not sure how it compares to 4000. However, I can tell you 3000 uses the pwc module. I did not have to download or compile it. Just modprobe pwc. You will probably have a very small picture. If the picture is too small, you need the pwcx module. This one did not seem to be on my system, so I downloaded it. You will have to insmod -f, and it will give you a warning about contaminating the kernel, but it works fine.
As far as software, camstream works great for me.
On http://home.earthlink.net/~bryantyson/techoffc.htm
The "Apartment Cam" is the Logitech Quickcam 3000 Pro running on SuSE 8.0 and camstream. Camstream is also running the "Media Cam."
Much helpful information is found here:
http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
Don't worry that it says Philips, because the Philips uses the same driver, at least in the case of the Logitech 3000 Pro.
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Hi I have made up my mind... I will go tomorrow and change that cam to something else.. Any succestions of a camera, that is known to work under SuSE8.0 with pretty much standard PC ?? Jaska. On Wednesday 30 October 2002 21:44, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Hi
The ready made binary module from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ does not load, even with the -f (force) option for insmod.
And when I try compile the pwc.o module, I get an error about missing include file, that can't be found anywhere... (pwc-dec.h)
This is starting to get ridiculous....
Jaska.
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 21:08, Bryan Tyson wrote:
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 12:11, jaakko wrote:
So, how to install that camera so, that I could use some SW to get pictures/video out of it under SuSE 8.0 ??
I have the QuickCam 3000 Pro. I am not sure how it compares to 4000. However, I can tell you 3000 uses the pwc module. I did not have to download or compile it. Just modprobe pwc. You will probably have a very small picture. If the picture is too small, you need the pwcx module. This one did not seem to be on my system, so I downloaded it. You will have to insmod -f, and it will give you a warning about contaminating the kernel, but it works fine.
As far as software, camstream works great for me.
On http://home.earthlink.net/~bryantyson/techoffc.htm
The "Apartment Cam" is the Logitech Quickcam 3000 Pro running on SuSE 8.0 and camstream. Camstream is also running the "Media Cam."
Much helpful information is found here:
http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
Don't worry that it says Philips, because the Philips uses the same driver, at least in the case of the Logitech 3000 Pro.
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On Wednesday 30 October 2002 22:03, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Any succestions of a camera, that is known to work under SuSE8.0 with pretty much standard PC ??
I have a Creative webcam but it uses the pwc/x combo as yours does. The reason it doesn't come ready-to-work in SuSE is that pwcx contains proprietary code... It's not really that hard to set up though. This is how I did it... 1. Download the latest pwcx.o from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ 2. It's actually pwcx-i386.o ... Rename it to just pwcx.o 3. Copy it into /lib/modules/2.4.18-4GB/kernel/drivers/usb/ (Instructions on the site say put it somewhere else, but I never got it to work that way. Doing it this way just means you'll need to re-add it if you change kernels.) 4. Type the command: depmod -a 5. Type the command: modprobe pwc 6. Type the command: insmod -f pwcx Should be working at this point. To get it working every time, open /etc/rc.d/boot.local . Add: modprobe pwc insmod -f pwcx lines in that file. This is a bit off-way of doing things, but hey, there's more than one way to get things done in Linux. ;-) It worked, that's all that mattered to me. Give that a try before giving up. Just keep a backup copy of pwcx.o and boot.local for when you upgrade... Later, Joe
WARNING! LONG POST! On Wednesday 30 October 2002 23.18, Joe Sullivan wrote:
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 22:03, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Any succestions of a camera, that is known to work under SuSE8.0 with pretty much standard PC ??
I have a Creative webcam but it uses the pwc/x combo as yours does.
The reason it doesn't come ready-to-work in SuSE is that pwcx contains proprietary code...
It's not really that hard to set up though. This is how I did it...
1. Download the latest pwcx.o from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
2. It's actually pwcx-i386.o ... Rename it to just pwcx.o
3. Copy it into /lib/modules/2.4.18-4GB/kernel/drivers/usb/
(Instructions on the site say put it somewhere else, but I never got it to work that way. Doing it this way just means you'll need to re-add it if you change kernels.)
4. Type the command: depmod -a
5. Type the command: modprobe pwc
6. Type the command: insmod -f pwcx
Should be working at this point.
To get it working every time, open /etc/rc.d/boot.local . Add:
modprobe pwc insmod -f pwcx
lines in that file.
This is a bit off-way of doing things, but hey, there's more than one way to get things done in Linux. ;-) It worked, that's all that mattered to me.
Give that a try before giving up. Just keep a backup copy of pwcx.o and boot.local for when you upgrade...
Later, Joe
I have been trying to get my 3000 up for the longest time, but always failing. When pluging the cam into the USB i get (in /var/log/messages) Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 3 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x46d/0x850) is not claimed by any active driver. Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usb.c: registered new driver audio Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: device 3 audiocontrol interface 1 has 1 input and 0 output AudioStreaming interfaces Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: device 3 interface 2 altsetting 0 FORMAT_TYPE descriptor not found Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 8000 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 48000 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 44100 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 32000 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 22050 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 16000 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 10257 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: device 3 interface 2 altsetting 1: format 0x00000010 sratelo 8000 sratehi 48000 attributes 0x01 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: registered dsp 14,35 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: constructing mixer for Terminal 3 type 0x0101 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: warning: found 1 of 0 logical channels. Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: assuming the channel found is the master channel (got a Philips camera?). Should be fine. Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usbaudio: registered mixer 14,16 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: usb_audio_parsecontrol: usb_audio_state at cbfa2a80 Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: audio.c: v1.0.0:USB Audio Class driver Nov 2 14:49:38 smp insmod: Using /lib/modules/2.4.18-4GB-SMP/kernel/drivers/usb/audio.o Nov 2 14:49:38 smp insmod: Symbol version prefix 'smp_' Nov 2 14:49:39 smp kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,0) Nov 2 14:49:39 smp kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,0) Nov 2 14:49:39 smp kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,1) Nov 2 14:49:39 smp kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device sr(11,1) And when i modprobe the pwc module: Nov 2 14:50:29 smp kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Nov 2 14:50:29 smp kernel: pwc Philips PCA645/646 + PCVC675/680/690 + PCVC730/740/750 webcam module version 8.6 loaded. Nov 2 14:50:29 smp kernel: pwc Also supports the Askey VC010, Logitech Quickcam 3000 Pro, Samsung MPC-C10 and MPC-C30, Nov 2 14:50:29 smp kernel: pwc the Creative WebCam 5, SOTEC Afina Eye and Visionite VCS-UC300 and VCS-UM100. Nov 2 14:50:29 smp kernel: usb.c: registered new driver Philips webcam Thats all she wrote. It newer registers a /dev/<whatever> So i cant access it at all.. What do i do? Also a strange thing.. I have a /var/log/firewall that almost mimics the /var/log/messages and as i have no clue on how to change logging levels or files... Ah well... -- /Rikard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rikard Johnels email : rjhn@linux.nu Web : http://www.rikjoh.com Mob : +46 70 464 99 39 ------------------------ Public PGP fingerprint ---------------------------- < 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 >
Hi Here is the key point:
Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1,
I remeber in docs, that it pwc(x) moduels does not work with SMP enabled kernels.. I chaned my 4000 to 3000, and it work immediatly after just plugging in.. no setup, nothing, just started working... I tested first with xawt, and now I have the webcam up and running with "motion" from freshmeat. Jaska.
On Saturday 02 November 2002 18.45, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Hi
Here is the key point:
Nov 2 14:49:38 smp kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1,
I remeber in docs, that it pwc(x) moduels does not work with SMP enabled kernels..
I chaned my 4000 to 3000, and it work immediatly after just plugging in.. no setup, nothing, just started working... I tested first with xawt, and now I have the webcam up and running with "motion" from freshmeat.
Jaska.
That SUX!!! :( I SO wanted it running.... Thats about all i miss from Windows, a good webconference software. I dont have the cash to pay for one of those "self supporting" linux powered cams.. And i DO run a SMP box.... (and dont want to change). Looks like i have to crank a windowsbox up after all :( Ah well... -- /Rikard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rikard Johnels email : rjhn@linux.nu Web : http://www.rikjoh.com Mob : +46 70 464 99 39 ------------------------ Public PGP fingerprint ---------------------------- < 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 >
Hi
That SUX!!! :(
I agree 100%. I had to pay some 16Euro extra for 3000 model... We could start developing the modules ourselves :_) Unfortunately I'm only FAE for electronics, so I don't know so much about the pervert (sorry?) C-language.. it is just way over my head. There is a gnomemeetin conference software.. I have heard that is working quite well, but haven't tried that yet (no one to talk to...) Jaska.
I SO wanted it running.... Thats about all i miss from Windows, a good webconference software. I dont have the cash to pay for one of those "self supporting" linux powered cams.. And i DO run a SMP box.... (and dont want to change). Looks like i have to crank a windowsbox up after all :( Ah well...
On Saturday 02 November 2002 19.08, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Hi
That SUX!!! :(
I agree 100%. I had to pay some 16Euro extra for 3000 model...
We could start developing the modules ourselves :_) Unfortunately I'm only FAE for electronics, so I don't know so much about the pervert (sorry?) C-language.. it is just way over my head.
There is a gnomemeetin conference software.. I have heard that is working quite well, but haven't tried that yet (no one to talk to...)
Jaska.
I SO wanted it running.... Thats about all i miss from Windows, a good webconference software. I dont have the cash to pay for one of those "self supporting" linux powered cams.. And i DO run a SMP box.... (and dont want to change). Looks like i have to crank a windowsbox up after all :( Ah well...
I have been looking at gnomemeeting and that seems ok to me. All i need is that /&%¤ cam to work.. *hate companies that doesnt support Linux* -- /Rikard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rikard Johnels email : rjhn@linux.nu Web : http://www.rikjoh.com Mob : +46 70 464 99 39 ------------------------ Public PGP fingerprint ---------------------------- < 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 >
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 14:44, jaakko wrote:
The ready made binary module from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ does not load, even with the -f (force) option for insmod. And when I try compile the pwc.o module, I get an error about missing include file, that can't be found anywhere... (pwc-dec.h)
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the pwc module is now built into Linux. I can tell you on my SuSE 8.0 I didn't have to do anything at all, just load it (modprobe). Same with my Mandrake 8.1 system. It was just there, no downloading, no compiling. I did have to download the pwcx though, which has something to do with compression that lets you get the bigger picture. *************************************************** Powered by SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional KDE 3.0.0 KMail 1.4 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ***************************************************
jaakko tamminen wrote:
Hi
I just got that USB camera for gift...
So, how to install that camera so, that I could use some SW to get pictures/video out of it under SuSE 8.0 ??
jaska.
I have used the ov511.o module (Kernel USB section) with a D-Link USB camera I have. It can be viewed with xawtv (included with SuSE). This is good time to ask a question. I would like to place the image on my homepage (not as a still.jpg) Anyone fimilar with this process? - 73 de Donn Washburn __ " http://www.hal-pc.org/~dwash " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 a MSDOS Virus "Free Zone" OS Email: n5xwb@arrl.net Info: http://www.austinlug.org
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