It's hacked again Mark Crean wrote:

Paul Ketelaar wrote:

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All on list, Go to openSuSE.org it has been hacked, by Iranian Militants.

I caught it a few minutes ago but now it's gone off line so I guess an admin has moved in. All anyone has missed is a very fuzzy picture of something or other and a strongly worded protest against attempts to curtail Iran's nuclear ambitions. Quite why these militants should target an IT specialist not generally known to the world at large is rather a mystery, if indeed they are who they claim to be. There must be many more suitable platforms for such a message.

I wouldn't want to be one of Iran's neighbours if this is their standard of targeting!

:)

Fish

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Howard Coles Jr. wrote:

What I want to know is how? How did they hack the website, and should we be

I didn't see the hack, but wikis a prone to attacks. usually a matter of restoring the database jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr

On 02/10/05, jdd sur free wrote:

jdd sur free wrote:

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Howard Coles Jr. wrote:

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What I want to know is how? How did they hack the website, and should we be

I didn't see the hack, but wikis a prone to attacks. usually a matter of restoring the database

however it was said on an other list that the problem is not from the wiki but from Novell sites (several novell sites where under attack, I guess with similar config)

jdd

It sounds like a very good reason NOT to visit the site for a couple of days. IF it is a genuine Iranian militants attack then take away the oxygen that they are after. By not visiting the site they get no publicity. Though, to be honest, I agree with the majority on here that it probably isn't a genuine hack by Iranian militants. More likely some misguided kid who is very, very clever and got lucky. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

jdd sur free wrote:

Kevanf1 wrote:

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It sounds like a very good reason NOT to visit the site for a couple of days.

why? the iranian pub is no more there :-).

How about just to set dns up so, that zone-h.org cannot be reached anymore. Hackers would so not be able to spread their "results". I cannot get rid of the thought that zone-h.org is somehow very close to the hackers!!!! To proof that a hacker can hack it would be enough to let a special icon there. What is the purpose to damage the entire site? Zone-hacker.org seems to go further than just as they describe to proof that the site is hackable. bye Ronald Wiplinger

jdd

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On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 01:11:53AM -0500, Howard Coles Jr. wrote:

On Saturday 01 October 2005 10:36 pm, John R. Sowden wrote:

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It is interesting that the people who are in the business of making statements to the world, chose a web site of a linux publisher to hack with a political statement, , not one of the well known commercial publishers.

What I want to know is how? How did they hack the website, and should we be concerned that Novell, which is supposed to be so good at security, is slacking?

I didn't see the sight, however I get the "Login to Continue" error. I have no idea why on earth they would target a Linux web page. I also doubt that Iranians were involved, could be an attempt by someone to redirect attention. However, if indeed the sight was hacked, it does make me concerned.

There is a HUGE difference between hacked and defaced. I'm going to attempt to pop this into small little terms: When someone is defaced, that means someone got write access to the page, nothing more. Microsoft had this happen to them a few months back. When someone's server gets rooted, THEN you would worry. More than likely it was a few pissed off idiots who decided to download an exploit that allows defacement. And please don't take these morons as examples of most defacers. Some of them rock at what they do, like Fone_tone and Rafa, from WOH. -Allen.

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On 02/10/05, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Sunday 02 October 2005 22:34, Allen wrote:

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And please don't take these morons as examples of most defacers. Some of them rock at what they do, like Fone_tone and Rafa, from WOH.

All defacers are losers that don't get enough attention. Not one of them deserve one iota of respect

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John R. Sowden wrote:

It is interesting that the people who are in the business of making statements to the world, chose a web site of a linux publisher to hack with a political statement, , not one of the well known commercial publishers.

It was unlikely a political statement other than that a linux site was hacked. The hackers are probably unrelated to Iran. Note: I didn't see the hack so maybe there was more to it, but it sounds like something some generic teenaged hacker would do for "fun". Steve

Fred A. Miller wrote:

On Sunday 02 October 2005 11:10 am, Steve Sivier wrote:

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It is interesting that the people who are in the business of making statements to the world, chose a web site of a linux publisher to hack with a political statement, , not one of the well known commercial publishers. It was unlikely a political statement other than that a linux site was hacked. The hackers are probably unrelated to Iran. Note: I didn't see

John R. Sowden wrote: the hack so maybe there was more to it, but it sounds like something some generic teenaged hacker would do for "fun".

You mean some dysfunctional teenaged jerk would do.

Ummm... Sir Billy is no longer a teenager. ;-)

At 02:23 AM 3/10/2005, Kevanf1 wrote:

On 02/10/05, James Knott wrote:

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Fred A. Miller wrote:

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On Sunday 02 October 2005 11:10 am, Steve Sivier wrote:

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It is interesting that the people who are in the business of making statements to the world, chose a web site of a linux publisher to hack with a political statement, , not one of the well known commercial publishers. It was unlikely a political statement other than that a linux site was hacked. The hackers are probably unrelated to Iran. Note: I didn't see

John R. Sowden wrote: the hack so maybe there was more to it, but it sounds like something some generic teenaged hacker would do for "fun".

You mean some dysfunctional teenaged jerk would do.

Ummm... Sir Billy is no longer a teenager. ;-)

Ooh, naughty, naughty James ;-) strange how I was thinking exactly the same :-))))

now now from a investigative report on tv last week on hackers shown in Ausie, most hackers are found to start now in their mid-twenties. scsijon

On Sun October 2 2005 08:28, Fred A. Miller wrote:

On Sunday 02 October 2005 11:10 am, Steve Sivier wrote:

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John R. Sowden wrote:

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It is interesting that the people who are in the business of making statements to the world, chose a web site of a linux publisher to hack with a political statement, , not one of the well known commercial publishers.

It was unlikely a political statement other than that a linux site was hacked. The hackers are probably unrelated to Iran. Note: I didn't see the hack so maybe there was more to it, but it sounds like something some generic teenaged hacker would do for "fun".

You mean some dysfunctional teenaged jerk would do.

Fred Never underestimate your enemy.

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On Saturday 01 October 2005 9:57 pm, Bruce Ferrell wrote:

It's hacked again

Really? 'JUST there and it's fine! Fred -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft. We have no bugs in our software, Never! We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost to you, at this time.

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It's hacked again

Really? 'JUST there and it's fine!

It was hacked once becuase i went there an got the hacked site. then went again 5 minutes later an it was back to novell error page. then few minuters maybe 30 or so minutes it was again back to hacked page.

then back to novell error page. then this morning did not get anypage at all.

see here: http://www.zone-h.org/defacements/mirror/id=2917390/