Hello List, I have a MAJOR issoe with Mozilla. I am using SuSE 8.1 and also using the Mozilla package from usr-bin.org. When I start a search with Mozilla using google, it consumes all memory on my machine including swap! I can see this using gkrellm. Here is what I did to sucessfully replicate this problem. In the address bar, I type www.google.com and let the site load. Then in the search box, I type exactly "Digital Media Watermarking" and try to have it search. Then is where the issue starts. Mozilla says that it is transferring data from the site but instead my resources get eaten alive!!! If fact, the X server dies!! When it comes up, The little log box that is in the KDM has the messages, "VM killed process nscd" and another VM message telling me that the X server died unexpectedly! When this occurs, I cannot even ssh into the machine!!! I do not know why this effects my machine. My wifes machine does the search with no problem and Konqueror on mine works perfectly. I have a NVIDIA Geforce2 card with 3D enabled if this helps. I can do other searched without a problem. Anyone have any ideas????? I'm lost :-( Marshall "Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."
On 23 Nov 2002 09:33:25 -0500
Marshall Heartley
Hello List,
I have a MAJOR issoe with Mozilla. I am using SuSE 8.1 and also using
starts. Mozilla says that it is transferring data from the site but instead my resources get eaten alive!!! If fact, the X server dies!! When it comes up, The little log box that is in the KDM has the messages, "VM killed process nscd" and another VM message telling me that the X server died unexpectedly! When this occurs, I cannot even
Maybe try stopping nscd (Name Service Cache Daemon) in services, you don't need it if you don't run your own DNS. Mozilla runs fine for me here. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
Maybe try stopping nscd (Name Service Cache Daemon) in services, you don't need it if you don't run your own DNS. Mozilla runs fine for me here.
Thanks zentara for this tip but unfortunatley it didn't solve it.:-( However, I found out a few more things while investigating this. When I do the search without the "", it works fine but when I do the search with the "", then all h*e*double hocky sticks breaks loose! By using the ps command, I see the instances of Mozilla reaching about 80% memory usage but then it starts dropping. While the memory is dropping, the swap is starting to fill up! I saw that through gkrellm. Boy it looks like that I have a weird one here. 8-( Marshall "Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."
The 02.11.23 at 10:45, zentara wrote:
Maybe try stopping nscd (Name Service Cache Daemon) in services, you don't need it if you don't run your own DNS. Mozilla runs fine for me here.
Nscd doesn't have much to do with DNS; it caches passwd, group, hosts, etc. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Maybe try stopping nscd (Name Service Cache Daemon) in services, you don't need it if you don't run your own DNS. Mozilla runs fine for me here.
Nscd doesn't have much to do with DNS; it caches passwd, group, hosts, etc.
Hello List, I could not figure out why the system was doing this. I needed to have a functional system so I clean loaded SuSE and it works again. My only conclusion is that all the resetting I had to do when my system froze while trying to play crack-attack. Oh well. I'll figure it out someday :-) Marshall "Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 03:25:58 +0100 (CET)
"Carlos E. R."
The 02.11.23 at 10:45, zentara wrote:
Maybe try stopping nscd (Name Service Cache Daemon) in services, you don't need it if you don't run your own DNS. Mozilla runs fine for me here.
Nscd doesn't have much to do with DNS; it caches passwd, group, hosts, etc.
The reason I mentioned it, was the OP said the first error message was "VM killed nscd" as his machine was running out of memory. I always turn that nscd off on my dialup machine. So what does it actually do for you.? A few releases back, the only option to turn it off was to actually remove the startup script. I'm slightly paranoid about services which startup automatically, and don't seem to serve any useful purpose. (or things still run fine without them). So does nscd make things run faster, or does it just take up ram? The NOTES section in man nscd does indicate that the nscd daemon does have an inter-relationship with DNS, which may even have contributed to his problem. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
On Monday 25 November 2002 14.41, zentara wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 03:25:58 +0100 (CET)
"Carlos E. R."
wrote: The 02.11.23 at 10:45, zentara wrote:
Maybe try stopping nscd (Name Service Cache Daemon) in services, you don't need it if you don't run your own DNS. Mozilla runs fine for me here.
Nscd doesn't have much to do with DNS; it caches passwd, group, hosts, etc.
The reason I mentioned it, was the OP said the first error message was "VM killed nscd" as his machine was running out of memory.
I always turn that nscd off on my dialup machine. So what does it actually do for you.?
It caches name service lookups :) If you have a slow connection to your DNS, or NIS server, or whatever, it caches the responses locally so the second time you look it up you get an instant response. So you had it backwards: You don't need nscd if you do run your own DNS, at least not for dns queries. If you do run bind or something, that will usually cache for you. Anders
The 02.11.25 at 08:41, zentara wrote:
Nscd doesn't have much to do with DNS; it caches passwd, group, hosts, etc.
The reason I mentioned it, was the OP said the first error message was "VM killed nscd" as his machine was running out of memory.
I don't know what exact strategy does the kernel use for deciding what to kill first when it is short in memory.
I always turn that nscd off on my dialup machine. So what does it actually do for you.?
There is a configuration file, /etc/nscd.conf. It caches passwd, group, and host queries (meaning dns queries), which probably should be disabled if you run dns locally - in suse 8.1 they are disabled by default, thus what I said initially. But I suppose if you don't use bind, and you have a modem conection, you could get faster network responses enabling nscd dns (hosts) caching. In fact, netscape had its own dns caching helper for that very reason. Right now, I have enabled its log file, I want to know more of what it's reallly doing. I would really like to know what is the impact of caching paswd/group queries :-?
A few releases back, the only option to turn it off was to actually remove the startup script. I'm slightly paranoid about services which startup automatically, and don't seem to serve any useful purpose. (or things still run fine without them).
I know :-) I think I disabled it somehow in 7.1 or 7.3, but I don't remember how.
So does nscd make things run faster, or does it just take up ram?
Maybe both.
The NOTES section in man nscd does indicate that the nscd daemon does have an inter-relationship with DNS, which may even have contributed to his problem.
Yes, but I think Suse default for most versions have been to disable dns queries. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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