Mads, The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this... " I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE" It's sad really..I wish the free beer people would dry up and blow away...hell, I spend more the $30 a week on cigarette ($5.00 a pack in California)...$30.00 for a whole OS and the ability to download 1000's of packages doesn't really strike me as too much to ask so that people who work hard can feed their families. *shrug* Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
Ben, I think you and I have been through this before, and you still fall back on that "free beer" crutch. If people would read WHAT I WROTE, there is little room for mis-understanding. But in the interest of fair argument, I will repeat myself (again). I was able to recommend SuSE to customers by showing them an install ON THEIR ACTUAL hardware, which, more often than not, is not standard (aka the live eval DONT WORK). Now that SuSE is not going to offer the eval, I cannot do as such without it coming out of MY OWN POCKET (I re-iterate, these are not my systems, but potential customers). I really wish people (you Ben) would understand that not all people use the eval versions are just looking for FREE BEER. Do we all understand now? I do not have the luxury of IBM's deep pockets. My bottom line comes real close to my billfold. Or does everyone (you Ben) work for someone else? I happen to be a freelance consultant, which means, I have to finance EVERYTHING MYSELF. Why would I buy a piece of software that wont work for a customer? That means I take it as a loss MYSELF (my family, my kid, you get the picture?). Now, drop the "free beer" thing, its old. Unsaddle the "High Moral Horse" that you seem to be riding and join the rest of us in the trenches. When was the last time you bought a car without driving it YOURSELF? Using the live-eval (IN MY SITUATION) is like having someone test drive a car for me by proxy. Dont make much sense, do it? Chris Kulish -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rosenberg [mailto:ben@whack.org] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:09 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO Mads, The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this... " I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE" It's sad really..I wish the free beer people would dry up and blow away...hell, I spend more the $30 a week on cigarette ($5.00 a pack in California)...$30.00 for a whole OS and the ability to download 1000's of packages doesn't really strike me as too much to ask so that people who work hard can feed their families. *shrug* Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:23:18PM -0500, NOC wrote:
Ben,
I think you and I have been through this before, and you still fall back on that "free beer" crutch. If people would read WHAT I WROTE, there is little room for mis-understanding. But in the interest of fair argument, I will repeat myself (again). I was able to recommend SuSE to customers by showing them an install ON THEIR ACTUAL hardware, which, more often than not, is not standard (aka the live eval DONT WORK). Now that SuSE is not going to offer the eval, I cannot do as such without it coming out of MY OWN POCKET (I re-iterate, these are not my systems, but potential customers). I really wish people (you Ben) would understand that not all people use the eval versions are just looking for FREE BEER. Do we all understand now?
Do you mean you personally don't have SuSE Linux? Please point me to the place in SuSE license which prohibits software installation on more than one computer. Please explain what prohibits you yourself to own a SuSE box? Just buy (download) one and install in demonstration purposes to as many customers as you have. If your customer is satisfied, they can buy support (or box with CDs and manuals) from SuSE. If you didn't install SuSE for yourself how can you install it for others? I don't think you act to the principle "Can't do it yourself - go teach others to do it"
I do not have the luxury of IBM's deep pockets. My bottom line comes real close to my billfold. Or does everyone (you Ben) work for someone else? I happen to be a freelance consultant, which means, I have to finance EVERYTHING MYSELF. Why would I buy a piece of software that wont work for a customer? That means I take it as a loss MYSELF (my family, my kid, you get the picture?). Now, drop the "free beer" thing, its old. Unsaddle the "High Moral Horse" that you seem to be riding and join the rest of us in the trenches.
Nobody urges you to buy a SuSE box for every your customer. Just buy one and use it in demo purposes. If you don't want to buy, download the stuff, burn it on CDs and show your customers. The many times you can.
When was the last time you bought a car without driving it YOURSELF? Using the live-eval (IN MY SITUATION) is like having someone test drive a car for me by proxy. Dont make much sense, do it?
You are comparing apples to oranges. Software cannot be compared to hardware. You can launch the same program on as many computers as you like at the same time. You can't do that to the cars. -Kastus
Chris Kulish
-----Original Message----- From: Ben Rosenberg [mailto:ben@whack.org] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:09 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO
Mads,
The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this...
" I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE"
It's sad really..I wish the free beer people would dry up and blow away...hell, I spend more the $30 a week on cigarette ($5.00 a pack in California)...$30.00 for a whole OS and the ability to download 1000's of packages doesn't really strike me as too much to ask so that people who work hard can feed their families. *shrug*
Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
I really wish people (you Ben) would understand that not all people use the eval versions are just looking for FREE BEER. Do we all understand now?
Do you mean you personally don't have SuSE Linux? Please point me to the place in SuSE license which prohibits software installation on more than one computer.
Rite... this is *exactly* what I was thinking! Whats to stop doing an install from your *paid* disks... then if the client is interested Im qiute sure they would have no objection of forking over a measly $70! Cripe! if an real client objected to dumping $70 for a server envioriment.. I wouldnt guess them to have much $$ for IT support!! My main shock is that it is Professionally produced and says "eval" what do you think that means....? If you *decide* to pay for it?? How the heck is Suse supposed to stay in business? Further Id guess if it dosnt meet particullar "needs" then obiviously move on to find the |-->FREE<--| os which survival is based on if the user decides to pay for it. I suggest doing the demos from your paid disks -- rob
From what you have said, this email doesnt even warrant a response. Yes the client will "fork over a measly 70 bucks"... But from your own mouth... How are they supposed to stay in business if they just toss money around? hmmm?
CK -----Original Message----- From: dizzy73 [mailto:dizzy73@connix.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:43 PM Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO
I really wish people (you Ben) would understand that not all people use the eval versions are just looking for FREE BEER. Do we all understand now?
Do you mean you personally don't have SuSE Linux? Please point me to the place in SuSE license which prohibits software installation on more than one computer.
Rite... this is *exactly* what I was thinking! Whats to stop doing an install from your *paid* disks... then if the client is interested Im qiute sure they would have no objection of forking over a measly $70! Cripe! if an real client objected to dumping $70 for a server envioriment.. I wouldnt guess them to have much $$ for IT support!! My main shock is that it is Professionally produced and says "eval" what do you think that means....? If you *decide* to pay for it?? How the heck is Suse supposed to stay in business? Further Id guess if it dosnt meet particullar "needs" then obiviously move on to find the |-->FREE<--| os which survival is based on if the user decides to pay for it. I suggest doing the demos from your paid disks -- rob -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com
NOC wrote:
From what you have said, this email doesnt even warrant a response. Yes the client will "fork over a measly 70 bucks"... But from your own mouth... How are they supposed to stay in business if they just toss money around? hmmm?
CK
well... businesses toss $$ around all the time, what they dont toss around or (give away) is their *Product* I'm not a business major but Im pretty sure there is something to the effect "If you want to stay in business dont give away your *Product*" For a business the Product is what creates the profit, which in tern makes being in business worthwhile. If there is no Profit... you will not have a Business for very long. I noticed that you convienntly did not address the -Install from your own cd's- hummm you *do* have the cd's rite???? hehehehe rob
From what you have said, this email doesnt even warrant a response. Yes
Yes I have the 7.0 CD's.... Do you know how tax laws work? I am incorporated (I know its a big word with multiple syllables, but its not that hard). I have to keep my personal assets separate from my business. I can't even have game CD's in my home office and still claim the room on my taxes. Maybe you should have been a business major.... Chris K. -----Original Message----- From: dizzy73 [mailto:dizzy73@connix.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:16 PM Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO NOC wrote: the
client will "fork over a measly 70 bucks"... But from your own mouth... How are they supposed to stay in business if they just toss money around? hmmm?
CK
well... businesses toss $$ around all the time, what they dont toss around or (give away) is their *Product* I'm not a business major but Im pretty sure there is something to the effect "If you want to stay in business dont give away your *Product*" For a business the Product is what creates the profit, which in tern makes being in business worthwhile. If there is no Profit... you will not have a Business for very long. I noticed that you convienntly did not address the -Install from your own cd's- hummm you *do* have the cd's rite???? hehehehe rob -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com
ha! dude, you are hokey.... (I intentionally kept it two 2 syllables for you) Ill even give you a definition hokey=unprofessional If you're the BIG consultant going after the BIG contracts.... I would think you could do it in a much more professional manner. E.g. 1) YOU buy the cds for your client or 2) YOU burn the cds for your client or 3) YOU bring in a FRIKIN machine thats set up for THE CLIENTS NEEDS!!! You have heard of "the cost of doing business" havent you??? YOU.... are the frikin consultant what the hell do you think that means? It means your client doesnt have a clue and is trusting someone (you) to implement a SOLUTION! Consultants (professionals) dont haggle over such a trivial cost as a Linux os. If you had credibility with your client (and could demonstrate it) they would pay the market cost + for your services. As long as your dicking around with downloading evaluation versions ... your Credibility with any professionals, I assure you, will remain *hokey* Guaranteed. Consultants provide a level of confidence and *previous* experience, they dont flounder around with evaluation versions Good luck in your new career NOC wrote:
Yes I have the 7.0 CD's.... Do you know how tax laws work? I am incorporated (I know its a big word with multiple syllables, but its not that hard). I have to keep my personal assets separate from my business. I can't even have game CD's in my home office and still claim the room on my taxes. Maybe you should have been a business major....
Still looking for the word "big" in any of my emails.... CK BTW... addressing someone as "dude, you are hokey" will get you a position as a consultant, come on in for an interview. -----Original Message----- From: dizzy73 [mailto:dizzy73@connix.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:51 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO ha! dude, you are hokey.... (I intentionally kept it two 2 syllables for you) Ill even give you a definition hokey=unprofessional If you're the BIG consultant going after the BIG contracts.... I would think you could do it in a much more professional manner. E.g. 1) YOU buy the cds for your client or 2) YOU burn the cds for your client or 3) YOU bring in a FRIKIN machine thats set up for THE CLIENTS NEEDS!!! You have heard of "the cost of doing business" havent you??? YOU.... are the frikin consultant what the hell do you think that means? It means your client doesnt have a clue and is trusting someone (you) to implement a SOLUTION! Consultants (professionals) dont haggle over such a trivial cost as a Linux os. If you had credibility with your client (and could demonstrate it) they would pay the market cost + for your services. As long as your dicking around with downloading evaluation versions ... your Credibility with any professionals, I assure you, will remain *hokey* Guaranteed. Consultants provide a level of confidence and *previous* experience, they dont flounder around with evaluation versions Good luck in your new career NOC wrote:
Yes I have the 7.0 CD's.... Do you know how tax laws work? I am incorporated (I know its a big word with multiple syllables, but its not that hard). I have to keep my personal assets separate from my business. I can't even have game CD's in my home office and still claim the room on my taxes. Maybe you should have been a business major....
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Well.. I tell you what, from this thread we can let the readers decide if that all you got.... hehehe You see, I never claimed to be a consultant They say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... guess what? Can I have a vote from our readers? hokey consultant? [y/n] hehehehe... NOC wrote:
Still looking for the word "big" in any of my emails....
CK
BTW... addressing someone as "dude, you are hokey" will get you a position as a consultant, come on in for an interview.
-----Original Message----- From: dizzy73 [mailto:dizzy73@connix.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:51 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO
ha!
dude, you are hokey.... (I intentionally kept it two 2 syllables for you) Ill even give you a definition hokey=unprofessional
If you're the BIG consultant going after the BIG contracts.... I would think you could do it in a much more professional manner.
E.g.
1) YOU buy the cds for your client or 2) YOU burn the cds for your client or 3) YOU bring in a FRIKIN machine thats set up for THE CLIENTS NEEDS!!!
You have heard of "the cost of doing business" havent you???
YOU.... are the frikin consultant what the hell do you think that means? It means your client doesnt have a clue and is trusting someone (you) to implement a SOLUTION! Consultants (professionals) dont haggle over such a trivial cost as a Linux os. If you had credibility with your client (and could demonstrate it) they would pay the market cost + for your services. As long as your dicking around with downloading evaluation versions ... your Credibility with any professionals, I assure you, will remain *hokey* Guaranteed.
Consultants provide a level of confidence and *previous* experience, they dont flounder around with evaluation versions
Good luck in your new career
NOC wrote:
Yes I have the 7.0 CD's.... Do you know how tax laws work? I am incorporated (I know its a big word with multiple syllables, but its not that hard). I have to keep my personal assets separate from my business. I can't even have game CD's in my home office and still claim the room on my taxes. Maybe you should have been a business major....
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ha!
dude, you are hokey.... (I intentionally kept it two 2 syllables for you) Ill even give you a definition hokey=unprofessional
If you're the BIG consultant going after the BIG contracts.... I would
4/ you bring your own box , install it , take your boxed cd set back with you.Client wants it , you ship them a boxed set. At 12:50 AM 5/12/2001 -0400, dizzy73 wrote: think you
could do it in a much more professional manner.
E.g.
1) YOU buy the cds for your client or 2) YOU burn the cds for your client or 3) YOU bring in a FRIKIN machine that�s set up for THE CLIENTS NEEDS!!!
You have heard of "the cost of doing business" haven�t you???
YOU.... are the frikin consultant what the hell do you think that means? It means your client doesn�t have a clue and is trusting someone (you) to implement a SOLUTION! Consultants (professionals) don�t haggle over such a trivial cost as a Linux os. If you had credibility with your client (and could demonstrate it) they would pay the market cost + for your services. As long as your dicking around with downloading evaluation versions ... your Credibility with any professionals, I assure you, will remain *hokey* Guaranteed.
Consultants provide a level of confidence and *previous* experience, they don�t flounder around with evaluation versions
Good luck in your new career
NOC wrote:
Yes I have the 7.0 CD's.... Do you know how tax laws work? I am incorporated (I know its a big word with multiple syllables, but its not that hard). I have to keep my personal assets separate from my business. I can't even have game CD's in my home office and still claim the room on my taxes. Maybe you should have been a business major....
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Ben writes:
" I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE"
Actually, I enjoy buying the professional version of SuSE every time there's a major feature upgrade I want. Ok Ok, I'll admit it, I'm a sucker for the stickers, but particularly the lapel pins. ;-) The free versions of the stuff are nice, but I usually sell others on buying the pro version by saying, "Sure, there are electronic versions of the manuals, but I'm old fashioned enough to enjoy a good book in hand when I want to look something up." Those I am trying to convince to get SuSE usually are the same way. Just convinced someone looking to get into linux to go buy SuSE Pro the other night. Promised to explain things as best I could, share config files, and do general hand holding, and that sold 'em. Doin' what I can to keep the distro going strong, Argentium
I agree with you completely.. Nothing worse than a contract wearing thin with no manual :).... I dont much like switch back and forth between windows just to get something configured either.... Any how... I should have known better than ask about the eval version on the list. That kind of question seems to bring out the "not as in free beer" leaches. Chris K. -----Original Message----- From: Argentium G. Tiger [mailto:agtiger@kc.rr.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 9:02 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO Ben writes:
" I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE"
Actually, I enjoy buying the professional version of SuSE every time there's a major feature upgrade I want. Ok Ok, I'll admit it, I'm a sucker for the stickers, but particularly the lapel pins. ;-) The free versions of the stuff are nice, but I usually sell others on buying the pro version by saying, "Sure, there are electronic versions of the manuals, but I'm old fashioned enough to enjoy a good book in hand when I want to look something up." Those I am trying to convince to get SuSE usually are the same way. Just convinced someone looking to get into linux to go buy SuSE Pro the other night. Promised to explain things as best I could, share config files, and do general hand holding, and that sold 'em. Doin' what I can to keep the distro going strong, Argentium -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com
This doesn't make sense. How can someone be cheap if they are willing to
spend $129.00 instead of $30? $129 is 4 times more than $30.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Rosenberg"
Mads,
The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this...
" I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE"
<bugs bunny>It dont, do it?
Sorry for being a little smart there... I did not mention purchasing
Windows at all. I was try to make the correlation (not to clearly, I admit)
between SuSE and other distros was all.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Sinclair [mailto:sinclair@zma.attmil.ne.jp]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:21 PM
To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
Subject: Re: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO
This doesn't make sense. How can someone be cheap if they are willing to
spend $129.00 instead of $30? $129 is 4 times more than $30.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Rosenberg"
Mads,
The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this...
" I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE"
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Nevermind. I am not sure any of this conversation makes any sense at all. There is no installable eval..and there won't be. No flame war or name calling will bring this about. Who cares. * Ron Sinclair (sinclair@zma.attmil.ne.jp) [010511 20:23]: ->This doesn't make sense. How can someone be cheap if they are willing to ->spend $129.00 instead of $30? $129 is 4 times more than $30. -> -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
On Saturday 12 May 2001 07:22, you wrote:
Nevermind. I am not sure any of this conversation makes any sense at all. There is no installable eval..and there won't be. No flame war or name calling will bring this about. Who cares.
Well, sort of.. While perusing the ftp site the other day, I came across a directory named 'Japanese'. Located within this were 7 .iso files. All sitting there nicely waiting to be downloaded. That being said, someone back up the line (Lenz I think) said just download them and install in your favorite language. You DON'T have to install in Japanese. So there you have it folks. The complete 7.1 version available to download in .iso format. Burn as many copies as you want. Then quit complaining about not having an iso to download. -- Powered by SuSE 7.1, Kernel 2.4.4 KDE2.1.1 For a great linux portal try http://www.freezer-burn.org
NOC, you are losing me. The orginal message, quoted below, is from Ben,
not you. I was referring the statement, "This doesn't make sense. How can
someone be cheap if they are willing to
spend $129.00 instead of $30? $129 is 4 times more than $30," to Ben, not
you.
I'm just trying to understand where his 'free beer' thinking is coming from
and the statement, " 'I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for
Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE,'
" confuses me.
So, I ask again, how can BEN's statement make sense. How can someone be
cheap when they are buying a more expensive product?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Rosenberg"
Mads,
The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this...
" I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE"
It's sad really..I wish the free beer people would dry up and blow away...hell, I spend more the $30 a week on cigarette ($5.00 a pack in California)...$30.00 for a whole OS and the ability to download 1000's of packages doesn't really strike me as too much to ask so that people who work hard can feed their families. *shrug*
Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
Sorry, should not have replied to your email. I may have confused the
issue.
But I do agree with you, it doesnt make much sense.
Chris Kulish
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Sinclair [mailto:sinclair@zma.attmil.ne.jp]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:32 PM
To: NOC; suse-linux-e@suse.com
Subject: Re: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO
NOC, you are losing me. The orginal message, quoted below, is from Ben,
not you. I was referring the statement, "This doesn't make sense. How can
someone be cheap if they are willing to
spend $129.00 instead of $30? $129 is 4 times more than $30," to Ben, not
you.
I'm just trying to understand where his 'free beer' thinking is coming from
and the statement, " 'I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for
Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE,'
" confuses me.
So, I ask again, how can BEN's statement make sense. How can someone be
cheap when they are buying a more expensive product?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Rosenberg"
Mads,
The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this...
" I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE"
It's sad really..I wish the free beer people would dry up and blow away...hell, I spend more the $30 a week on cigarette ($5.00 a pack in California)...$30.00 for a whole OS and the ability to download 1000's of packages doesn't really strike me as too much to ask so that people who work hard can feed their families. *shrug*
Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
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Argentium G. Tiger -
Ben Rosenberg -
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Konstantin (Kastus) Shchuka -
Mike -
NOC -
Ron Sinclair -
Samy Elashmawy