How does one print envelopes in OpenOffice1.1, using "Insert -> Envelopes" please? I use DL size envelopes and have set OpenOffice -> Insert -> Envelopes -> Format to DL. Using "Generic Printer". It always starts with A4, so I change this to DL. Then I insert it into the document as page1. When I try to print it, the Generic Printer Settings Properties come up as A4, so I change these also to DL. Then I try to print on to the envelope, but it just winds through the printer without printing anything. Testing with an A4 size paper, rather than the envelope, the address is printed right at the bottom of it. My DL margins are set correctly. Using KPrinter instead of Generic, I find that the only way to print an envelope is to change the OpenOffice -> Insert -> Envelope -> Format -> Printer Properties to DL, and then the Printer Properties in the KPrinter settings box to DL, each time I want to print an envelope. Next time I run OpenOffice, everything is back to A4 - which is my basic paper size -and I have to go through the whole setting up of KPrinter again. What a long winded way of printing an envelope each time! Is there an easier way, and one which saves all my envelope properties? Surely, I must be able to just insert an envelope into the document as page1 and it will print correctly as the DL size and then the rest of the document as A4. To sum up, how do you print envelopes in OpenOffice? I hope that this explanation of what happens is clear. Many thanks for any advice. Keith
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From: Keith Powell
How does one print envelopes in OpenOffice1.1, using "Insert -> Envelopes" please?
I use DL size envelopes and have set OpenOffice -> Insert -> Envelopes -> Format to DL.
Using "Generic Printer". It always starts with A4, so I change this to DL. Then I insert it into the document as page1. When I try to print it, the Generic Printer Settings Properties come up as A4, so I change these also to DL. Then I try to print on to the envelope, but it just winds through the printer without printing anything. Testing with an A4 size paper, rather than the envelope, the address is printed right at the bottom of it. My DL margins are set correctly.
Using KPrinter instead of Generic, I find that the only way to print an envelope is to change the OpenOffice -> Insert -> Envelope -> Format -> Printer Properties to DL, and then the Printer Properties in the KPrinter settings box to DL, each time I want to print an envelope. Next time I run OpenOffice, everything is back to A4 - which is my basic paper size -and I have to go through the whole setting up of KPrinter again.
What a long winded way of printing an envelope each time!
Is there an easier way, and one which saves all my envelope properties?
Surely, I must be able to just insert an envelope into the document as page1 and it will print correctly as the DL size and then the rest of the document as A4.
To sum up, how do you print envelopes in OpenOffice?
I hope that this explanation of what happens is clear.
Many thanks for any advice.
Keith This information is from the "help" screen in OO 1.1
Click on the insert pull down and then click on envelope. Simply follow the directions and it will insert the envelope in the document. Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998
The 03.10.25 at 15:17, Keith Powell wrote:
To sum up, how do you print envelopes in OpenOffice?
I posted about this time ago here, and the result was there was no way I
could convince OO and my printer (a Canon 4000) to collaborate. It rotates
the printout as if I introduce the envelope as "portrait", when the
printer feeds envelopes as "landascape". For any one interested, look it
up:
| Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:13:02 +0100 (CET)
| From: Carlos E. R.
On Saturday 25 Oct 2003 3:17 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
How does one print envelopes in OpenOffice1.1, using "Insert -> Envelopes" please?
I use DL size envelopes and have set OpenOffice -> Insert -> Envelopes -> Format to DL.
Using "Generic Printer". It always starts with A4, so I change this to DL. Then I insert it into the document as page1. When I try to print it, the Generic Printer Settings Properties come up as A4, so I change these also to DL. Then I try to print on to the envelope, but it just winds through the printer without printing anything. Testing with an A4 size paper, rather than the envelope, the address is printed right at the bottom of it. My DL margins are set correctly.
Using KPrinter instead of Generic, I find that the only way to print an envelope is to change the OpenOffice -> Insert -> Envelope -> Format -> Printer Properties to DL, and then the Printer Properties in the KPrinter settings box to DL, each time I want to print an envelope. Next time I run OpenOffice, everything is back to A4 - which is my basic paper size -and I have to go through the whole setting up of KPrinter again.
Thanks to all who have given me suggestions. I will make this a composite reply, rather than sending individual ones and repeating the same things over again. The printer is an Epson Stylus Inkjet, with the feed from the top. Gil, I have tried all six buttons but none of them work. Nothing is printed on the DL envelopes. Using an A4 (30cm long) sheet of paper as a test, all the buttons just print at the bottom of the paper with the printing turned through 180 degrees. That is, parallel to the long side of the paper. With four of the buttons the printing is in the same place on the left of the sheet, with one button it is at the bottom but in the middle, and with the other button it is at the bottom on the left. My default paper size is A4. Have you had to change any settings from your default ones, other than in the envelope format? I have tried, but it makes no difference. Ken, I can insert the envelope into the document and it appears correct in Print Preview. It just won't print. The "Help" file is of no use in sorting this printing problem, which appears to be a common one. Brian and Carlos, it looks as though I will have to follow your suggestions and get a work-around by making a document with the correct paper size and margins for the DL size. Then use this as a template each time. It's a bit of a nuisance as I would have thought that such an important part of OpenOffice writer would have worked correctly. I wonder if there is an openoffice mailing list? I must check. If there is, perhaps it has been brought up on there to the attention of the developers. Thanks, again, to all who replied. Cheers Keith
The 03.10.26 at 10:22, Keith Powell wrote:
Brian and Carlos, it looks as though I will have to follow your suggestions and get a work-around by making a document with the correct paper size and margins for the DL size. Then use this as a template each time.
As I have to feed envelopes manually one by one, because often they get stuck, making a template is not such a big problem for me ;-)
It's a bit of a nuisance as I would have thought that such an important part of OpenOffice writer would have worked correctly. I wonder if there is an openoffice mailing list? I must check. If there is, perhaps it has been brought up on there to the attention of the developers.
Maybe it is also a problem with cups and OO working together. Maybe it works only with certain types of printers, who knows... My problem was that no matter what I did, it printed "vertically". I'll paste here what I posted last January, for reference: --- Text insert begin ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:13:02 +0100 (CET) From: Carlos E. R. Subject: [SLE] How on earth do I print landscape envelopes (OO)? My printer (canon 4000) only takes envelopes horizontally (landscape). So, I want to print DL (22*11cm) size envelopes using OpenOffice. If I set page format to "portrait", it says that it is 11cm wide, it is wrong. If I set it to "Landscape", the foolish thing rotates the page and prints out of the envelope: +-------------------+ | * | | ** | | *** | | *** | +-***---------------+ * * * * So, I go and set user size, 22 cm width * 11cm high, portrait. The preview is correct, it prints in the right direction, but... the print stop at the middle of each line! The damned thing says it knows better than me, and that the page ends there. +-------------------+ | * | | ****** | | ****** | | | +-------------------+ ^_ print ends there. Of course, I have also played with the sizes in the printer settings in the File menu, and they are utterly ignored. I tell the damn thing I have DL portrait or landscape, but it is as if I'm talking to the wall. I can not win :-( The only way I can convince it to print correctly is saying I have a 22*22 square page, as portrait, and add an 11 cm bottom margin. Anyone knows how to do it "the proper way"? I'm using SuSE 8.1 with CUPS. StarOffice 5.2 with SuSE 7.3 did get it right. --- Text insert end ---------- Problem remains with SuSE 8.2, of course. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 12:31 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.10.26 at 10:22, Keith Powell wrote:
Brian and Carlos, it looks as though I will have to follow your suggestions and get a work-around by making a document with the correct paper size and margins for the DL size. Then use this as a template each time.
As I have to feed envelopes manually one by one, because often they get stuck, making a template is not such a big problem for me ;-)
Maybe it is also a problem with cups and OO working together. Maybe it works only with certain types of printers, who knows...
My problem was that no matter what I did, it printed "vertically". I'll paste here what I posted last January, for reference:
--- Text insert begin ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:13:02 +0100 (CET) From: Carlos E. R. Subject: [SLE] How on earth do I print landscape envelopes (OO)?
My printer (canon 4000) only takes envelopes horizontally (landscape). So, I want to print DL (22*11cm) size envelopes using OpenOffice. If I set page format to "portrait", it says that it is 11cm wide, it is wrong. If I set it to "Landscape", the foolish thing rotates the page and prints out of the envelope:
+-------------------+
| * | | ** | | *** | | *** |
+-***---------------+ * * * *
So, I go and set user size, 22 cm width * 11cm high, portrait. The preview is correct, it prints in the right direction, but... the print stop at the middle of each line! The damned thing says it knows better than me, and that the page ends there.
+-------------------+
| * | | ****** | | ****** |
+-------------------+ ^_ print ends there.
Of course, I have also played with the sizes in the printer settings in the File menu, and they are utterly ignored. I tell the damn thing I have DL portrait or landscape, but it is as if I'm talking to the wall.
I can not win :-(
The only way I can convince it to print correctly is saying I have a 22*22 square page, as portrait, and add an 11 cm bottom margin. Anyone knows how to do it "the proper way"?
I'm using SuSE 8.1 with CUPS. StarOffice 5.2 with SuSE 7.3 did get it right. --- Text insert end ----------
Problem remains with SuSE 8.2, of course.
Carlos, You have given me an idea! When I am next in the mood for experimenting, I'll install Turboprint (which I have never used) and see if that solves the problem. As you say, it may be OO and cups. I'll also try KOffice and Abiword. Thanks Keith
The 03.10.26 at 14:38, Keith Powell wrote:
Carlos,
You have given me an idea!
When I am next in the mood for experimenting, I'll install Turboprint (which I have never used)
what is turboprint? I don't see it on the dvd (pin turboprint).
and see if that solves the problem. As you say, it may be OO and cups. I'll also try KOffice and Abiword.
Report back your results ;-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 07:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.10.26 at 14:38, Keith Powell wrote:
Carlos,
You have given me an idea!
When I am next in the mood for experimenting, I'll install Turboprint (which I have never used)
what is turboprint? I don't see it on the dvd (pin turboprint).
It's a commercial printer driver solution for Linux, available from: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html I have been using it for a couple of years and have been very pleased with it.
and see if that solves the problem.
Unfortunately, it is not a cure for the envelope printing bug which has existed in in all versions of OOo for Linux including 1.1.0.
As you say, it may be OO and cups.
I am fairly sure this is the problem combination. Regards Dave
The 03.10.27 at 09:50, Dave Barton wrote:
what is turboprint? I don't see it on the dvd (pin turboprint).
It's a commercial printer driver solution for Linux, available from: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html I have been using it for a couple of years and have been very pleased with it.
Ah, I see.
and see if that solves the problem.
Unfortunately, it is not a cure for the envelope printing bug which has existed in in all versions of OOo for Linux including 1.1.0.
But not the staroffice 5.x that was previously included. I didn't have this problem in suse 7.3 -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:50:11AM +1100, Dave Barton wrote: : On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 07:25, Carlos E. R. wrote: : > As you say, it may be OO and cups. : : I am fairly sure this is the problem combination. Try using LPRng instead of CUPS. I've noticed that not all the PPD files in CUPS w/the linuxprinting.org PPD backend are up to snuff. For instance, I had to stop using CUPS b/c it wouldn't correctly print 2-up pages on my Samsung ML-1210. LPRng has no such problems. And a big shout-out to SuSE for being the only vendor to have the intelligence to keep LPRng as a shipped package!!! --Jerry -- "In argument, truth is discovered." -- Old Russian Proverb
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:58:35 -0500
Jerry A!
Try using LPRng instead of CUPS.
Or use CUPS in conjunction with Foomatic and Ghostscript. This is what I do. FWIW, I use the Gimp-print Ghostscript IJS driver. Charles -- Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus. (By mah@ka4ybr.com, Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:03:01PM -0500, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:58:35 -0500
: Jerry A!
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:18:13 -0500
Jerry A!
Except that Foomatic is what I'm talking about when I'm discussing the linuxprinting.org PPDs.
Yes I know, but I find the ones for Ghostscript better than the ones generated for CUPS. Also, I am using AFPL Ghostscript 8.0 which is a much better postscript RIP than the native one in CUPS which is based a much older version of Ghostscript. Charles -- "The world is beating a path to our door" -- Bruce Perens, (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
The 03.10.26 at 20:03, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
Try using LPRng instead of CUPS.
Or use CUPS in conjunction with Foomatic and Ghostscript. This is what I do. FWIW, I use the Gimp-print Ghostscript IJS driver.
CUPS is nice, but it manages quite badly the canon 4000 printer. If I print a page having text and photos, the text is printed fast and crisp: perfect. But the photos are horrible: I can't describe it, like high contrast low ink. If I use the gimp driver then it prints quite OK, but even the text prints much slower. LPRng in suse 7.3 printed similarly to the gimp driver in CUPS. This has been so in suse 8.1 and 8.2 I don't know to whom could I email a scanned page of print output, so that someboy takes charge and corrects it. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
A first report, if anyone is interested. I have run OpenOffice (1.0.2) in the Libranet distro. This also uses cups and the gimp-print driver. The envelopes print correctly - no problems. So, I am wondering if it is the SUSE-OPENOFFICE combination which causes the problem, rather than just an OpenOffice one. It needs much more experimenting. cheers Keith
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 00:50, Keith Powell wrote:
So, I am wondering if it is the SUSE-OPENOFFICE combination which causes the problem, rather than just an OpenOffice one.
It needs much more experimenting.
I missed the start of this thread but as I stated ealier I had no problem printing envelopes using the latest OOo 1.1 and CUPS on SuSE 8.2. But I remember I did have trouble with SuSE 8.1 and OOo that came with SuSE because there was no paper size DL for the printer I was using. Another problem I did have with SuSE 8.2 was if I used a logo on the envelope it would print two blank envelopes before actually printing an envelope. I could print the envelope OK without the logo. I could never fix this problem until I installed the latest OOo version. -- Regards, Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:58, Jerry A! wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:50:11AM +1100, Dave Barton wrote: : On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 07:25, Carlos E. R. wrote: : > As you say, it may be OO and cups. : : I am fairly sure this is the problem combination.
Try using LPRng instead of CUPS. I've noticed that not all the PPD files in CUPS w/the linuxprinting.org PPD backend are up to snuff. For instance, I had to stop using CUPS b/c it wouldn't correctly print 2-up pages on my Samsung ML-1210. LPRng has no such problems.
Well I just made up a OOo template for a 'DL' size envelope. Printed without any problems on my Deskjet 930C and Kyocera FS-680 printers using CUPS. -- Regards, Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------
On Sunday 26 October 2003 09:58 pm, Graham Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:58, Jerry A! wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:50:11AM +1100, Dave Barton wrote: : On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 07:25, Carlos E. R. wrote: : > As you say, it may be OO and cups. : : I am fairly sure this is the problem combination.
Try using LPRng instead of CUPS. I've noticed that not all the PPD files in CUPS w/the linuxprinting.org PPD backend are up to snuff. For instance, I had to stop using CUPS b/c it wouldn't correctly print 2-up pages on my Samsung ML-1210. LPRng has no such problems.
Well I just made up a OOo template for a 'DL' size envelope. Printed without any problems on my Deskjet 930C and Kyocera FS-680 printers using CUPS.
-- Regards,
Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------
Hey guys & gals, Just a side note on this thread. Scribus makes setting up and printing envelopes quite easy to any printer you have setup. You can twist and turn the layout easily and even print "portrait" mode if you like on an envelope inserted into the printer longways. Try it, you'll like it. ;o) OpenOffice will work, I have done that before, but Scribus makes you wonder why you bothered to use OO. Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
Thanks to all who have replied to my problem with not being able to print DL envelopes in OpenOffice - I really do appreciate your help. There are so many replies, that I would take up far too much bandwidth to reply individually. I am going to try everything which has been suggested, and will let you all know if I have succeeded or failed miserably. It should keep me busy until Christmas, trying everything! Two pieces of information, just for interest. I have made a DL4 size template in Abiword, and that works splendidly. DL4 envelopes print OK in MS Office. (I had to blow the cobwebs off my Windows drive to try this!). Thanks again. Keith
On Sunday 26 October 2003 02:22 am, Keith Powell wrote:
I wonder if there is an openoffice mailing list? I must check. If there is, perhaps it has been brought up on there to the attention of the developers.
Yes there are several that you can learn about here: http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html There is also an excellent web forum available here: http://www.oooforum.org -- Bryce Hardy (Santa Rosa, CA) brycehdy@sonic.net
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