PPS - Nobody likes it! It's very, very annoying...so much so that I leave immediately any site that "plays" at me. Regards, Mike Wafkowski ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederik Vos" To: "SuSE" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Background Music

On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 16:18, James Hatridge wrote:

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HI all

Can someone tell me how to do background music on a web site?

TIA

<object data="soundfile.mid" codetype="audio/mid"> </object>

or mp3 or whatever

personally i don't like it, it's very annoying

ps: it only works if you use a valid (x)html declaration -- Frederik Vos VosBerg@SuSE & L4L

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On Saturday 15 November 2003 14:42 pm, James Hatridge wrote:

Hi all....

Oh well, two out of two saying please don't and I thought it was such a great idea <G>.

OK, I would "still" like to have the music there for my readers. Which do you all think is better. A button stopping the music or a button starting the music?

A button to start it.

BTW what is a "valid (x)html declaration"? Also where can I find on the 'net a listing of all the differnet HTML commands? Or perhaps an online book about HTML?

Install quanta (from the CD's) - it has excellent help and HTML documentation.

I would like to find something with examples of using things like "marquee", and / or how do I put stuff on the bottom bar of the NS browser.

That's a Javascript function, I think, not HTML. Dylan -- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg

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On Saturday 15 November 2003 8:42 am, James Hatridge wrote:

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Hi all....

Oh well, two out of two saying please don't and I thought it was such a great idea <G>.

OK, I would "still" like to have the music there for my readers. Which do you all think is better. A button stopping the music or a button starting the music?

A choice to start the music please. Having it on by default still takes too much Internet bandwidth to get to the point your surfers can choose to stop it. If this was an internal network ONLY, then the options should be different since it is your bandwidth.

The only site that has crashed opera for me in recent times is one that automatically played a music file. I didn't bother debugging any further, just stopped going to the site. If you want to keep your site traffic to a minimum then adding music could be a useful strategy. - -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tsiHBwgxlylUsJARAv7UAJ97capjTE9hHD5ynsCptGaS6pkBSwCgiWBt x22lzJce2Iih1CxMoFIvo1g= =UxO/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

* James Hatridge (Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:42:08PM +0100)

Hi all....

Oh well, two out of two saying please don't and I thought it was such a great idea <G>.

OK, I would "still" like to have the music there for my readers. Which do you all think is better. A button stopping the music or a button starting the music?

Well, I usually already have music on while browsing the web. unless your music adds added value (a tautology, I know) to the webbrowing experience, and can be made an integral part of the website, I would strongly recommened against doing it. Especially since midi sounds like crap on the el-cheape AC97/SB16 clone cards most people have in their PCs .. and if they have the really expensive ones, they usually are already using ti to play their music ... Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 ICT manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Fugro-Jason Fax :+31-10.280.1511 gdenhollander@Fugro-Jason.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.Fugro-Jason.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged.

On Sunday 16 November 2003 02:33 am, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

Such things also choke if your using a system ( library, university) without sound cards. Simply put a start page and have two buttons full multimedia and soundless. Have a flag set and using hidden frames build a site accordingly using dynamic methods.

NO NO NO If you want to do that (and I think it's the best way) then you should use server-side scripting, or pass the flag from page to page (maybe in a cookie [yuk]) and use javascript [yuk again]. Frames will break on text only browsers - especially those intended for blind users like screen readers and braille displays. Dylan -- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg

On Monday 17 November 2003 19:02 pm, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

The web is a visual medium and very few people program for text browsers its not even taught in school.

Your way is HTML 3.2; mine is HTML 4+ the standard.

Mine is also HTML 4+. I am not advocating text-only sites, but web site designers _should_ consider the needs of users who have different access requirements. The simple use of common sense is all that is required. £0.02 Dylan p.s. Thank you for the personal copy of your post, but it really is unnecessarily annoying -- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg