[opensuse] k3b on suse 10.2: no devices
Hi, I did a fresh install from scratch, changing from (K)ubuntu to OpenSuSE 10.2/KDE. just wanted to burn an iso with k3b and found to my surprise that as an ordinary user, k3b is NOT configured to have access to my DVD-Rom and DVD-Recorder. Even worse, being an ordinary user, I have no chance to add my DVD devices. K3b tells me, the devices are not found, although they are there ;-) I tried with user root and had no such problems. How can I cure this? I searched Google and the mailinglists last 1000 messages (I read through knode) but did not find an answer. Any help is appreciated kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hi,
I did a fresh install from scratch, changing from (K)ubuntu to OpenSuSE 10.2/KDE. just wanted to burn an iso with k3b and found to my surprise that as an ordinary user, k3b is NOT configured to have access to my DVD-Rom and DVD-Recorder. Even worse, being an ordinary user, I have no chance to add my DVD devices. K3b tells me, the devices are not found, although they are there ;-) I tried with user root and had no such problems.
How can I cure this? I searched Google and the mailinglists last 1000 messages (I read through knode) but did not find an answer.
Any help is appreciated kind regards Eberhard
ALT-F2 kdesu k3b will do the job. HTH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 09-01-2007 at 17:06, Erik Jakobsen
wrote: Eberhard Roloff wrote: Hi, I did a fresh install from scratch, changing from (K)ubuntu to OpenSuSE 10.2/KDE. just wanted to burn an iso with k3b and found to my surprise that as an ordinary user, k3b is NOT configured to have access to my DVD-Rom and DVD-Recorder. Even worse, being an ordinary user, I have no chance to add my DVD devices. K3b tells me, the devices are not found, although they are there ;-) I tried with user root and had no such problems.
How can I cure this? I searched Google and the mailinglists last 1000 messages (I read through knode) but did not find an answer.
Any help is appreciated kind regards Eberhard
ALT-F2 kdesu k3b will do the job.
HTH
I would say that can only be a workaround. I remember on my system I don't have to su for k3b. (but I did not upgrade that machine to 10.2 yet). Will this be something I'll have to take care after updating? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I would say that can only be a workaround. I remember on my system I don't have to su for k3b. (but I did not upgrade that machine to 10.2 yet).
Will this be something I'll have to take care after updating?
Maybe You are right. But that's the way I do it, and it always work. There's possible other that have another idea. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, I finally solved it and found some very strange things on my computer: 1. I installed gnomebaker and found that it can see the devices, when started as a user. Someone knows why? ;-) 2. I remembered that although I had my / partition fully formatted during the install, I remerbered that I had been asked and agreed to take over the existing users from /etc/passwd (from ubuntu Edgy) 3. I made a new user "guest" and added "guest" to the additional groups "users" and "cdrom". 4. I logged on as "guest" and tried K3b. Surprise, it worked! 5. I checked what groups I myself am in. No Surprise, I was already a member of "users" and "cdrom", but it still did not work. 5. I tried to delete myself from the yast-user menu but strangely found that I could not do it, instead I got "The user that you want to delete is currently logged on, please log him off, firstly" Although this was clearly wrong, I could not do it with Yast 6. I did it the hard way and deleted myself quickly from /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. Afterwards it was easy to recreate myself and add the groups "users" and "cdrom" to myself. 7. I deleted .kde, .kderc and ~/Desktop from my home directory to clear any kde chaos that I had collected through the generations, just to be sure. 8. I logged in and k3b greeted me with the message that apparently it was started for the first time ;-). Consequently i was asked to set the speed of the detected burner device. Voilà! So OpenSUSE works great but it is me who was to blame. Thanks anyone for all the helpful hints that I got and I got them so quickly! This is really a helpful community. Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ysgrifennodd Dominique Leuenberger:
I would say that can only be a workaround. I remember on my system I don't have to su for k3b. (but I did not upgrade that machine to 10.2 yet).
Will this be something I'll have to take care after updating?
One solution I've seen mentioned, although I've never tried it myself, is to create a group "cdburners" or something. Add the appropriate users to this group and then give that group the appropriate permissions on the device. HTH Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ysgrifennodd Peter Bradley:
Ysgrifennodd Dominique Leuenberger:
I would say that can only be a workaround. I remember on my system I don't have to su for k3b. (but I did not upgrade that machine to 10.2 yet).
Will this be something I'll have to take care after updating?
One solution I've seen mentioned, although I've never tried it myself, is to create a group "cdburners" or something. Add the appropriate users to this group and then give that group the appropriate permissions on the device.
HTH
Peter
For instance, does this help? http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~mgarcia/info/CdPlayer/xcdroast.html Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Peter Bradley wrote:
Ysgrifennodd Peter Bradley:
Ysgrifennodd Dominique Leuenberger:
I would say that can only be a workaround. I remember on my system I don't have to su for k3b. (but I did not upgrade that machine to 10.2 yet).
Will this be something I'll have to take care after updating?
One solution I've seen mentioned, although I've never tried it myself, is to create a group "cdburners" or something. Add the appropriate users to this group and then give that group the appropriate permissions on the device.
HTH
Peter
For instance, does this help?
http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~mgarcia/info/CdPlayer/xcdroast.html
Peter Thanks much. This is the lass exit, that I will take if anything else fails.
My first suspect is this hal policy thing, which also forces me to manually mount a cdrom (as root, of course) before I can access it's contents as a user. Seems that opensuse in essence rolls back half a decade in regard to device permission things. My next step will be to install the hal-gnome manager and see what comes up. Or I'll wipe it from my harddisk. I will be happy to come back with anything I'll find out. regards and many thanks for help Eberhard I will read it up -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
tisdag 09 januari 2007 16:50 skrev Eberhard Roloff:
My first suspect is this hal policy thing, which also forces me to manually mount a cdrom (as root, of course) before I can access it's contents as a user. Seems that opensuse in essence rolls back half a decade in regard to device permission things.
This is definitely a clue. You should absolutely not have to mount cdroms as root. It works on my 10.2 system. Are you running gnome or kde? In kde, all this is managed by KDED, which is configured (enabled) from the Control Centre. In gnome, I have no idea... -- !++ ! Lennart Börjeson, Cinnober Financial Technology AB ! Industrigatan 2A, S-112 46 STOCKHOLM ! Sverige/Sweden/Schweden/Suède ! phone:+46-8-50304717 gsm:+46-70-3394717 fax:+46-8-50304701 !-- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Lennart Börjeson wrote:
tisdag 09 januari 2007 16:50 skrev Eberhard Roloff:
My first suspect is this hal policy thing, which also forces me to manually mount a cdrom (as root, of course) before I can access it's contents as a user. Seems that opensuse in essence rolls back half a decade in regard to device permission things.
This is definitely a clue. You should absolutely not have to mount cdroms as root. It works on my 10.2 system.
Are you running gnome or kde? In kde, all this is managed by KDED, which is configured (enabled) from the Control Centre. In gnome, I have no idea...
Can You give further details about setting up KDED ?. I'm in Control Centre now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Lennart Börjeson wrote:
tisdag 09 januari 2007 16:50 skrev Eberhard Roloff:
My first suspect is this hal policy thing, which also forces me to manually mount a cdrom (as root, of course) before I can access it's contents as a user. Seems that opensuse in essence rolls back half a decade in regard to device permission things.
This is definitely a clue. You should absolutely not have to mount cdroms as root. It works on my 10.2 system. Good to know, definitely.
Are you running gnome or kde? KDE
In kde, all this is managed by KDED, which is configured (enabled) from the Control Centre. Where in ControlCentre? I can find in KDE Components/Service Manager/ several services whose names start with "KDED", but apart from stop/start, I cannot do anything there, als least what I see.
Any help is greatly appreciated regards Eberhard
In gnome, I have no idea...
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Erik Jakobsen wrote:
Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hi,
I did a fresh install from scratch, changing from (K)ubuntu to OpenSuSE 10.2/KDE. just wanted to burn an iso with k3b and found to my surprise that as an ordinary user, k3b is NOT configured to have access to my DVD-Rom and DVD-Recorder. Even worse, being an ordinary user, I have no chance to add my DVD devices. K3b tells me, the devices are not found, although they are there ;-) I tried with user root and had no such problems.
How can I cure this? I searched Google and the mailinglists last 1000 messages (I read through knode) but did not find an answer.
Any help is appreciated kind regards Eberhard
ALT-F2 kdesu k3b will do the job.
HTH well, this simplifies running k3b in root mode, but this is not what I am after. Honestly, imho it is absolutely rediculous that you have to be root to burn a cdrom. I last experienced this with xcdroast about five years ago.
thanks anyway Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 02:42, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
well, this simplifies running k3b in root mode, but this is not what I am after. Honestly, imho it is absolutely rediculous that you have to be root to burn a cdrom. I last experienced this with xcdroast about five years ago.
I have just burnt about 20 CD-RW's using my account without any need to run as root. I suggest you try the K3B version on the packman site. You may have to run K3Bsetup to set it to run in non-root mode. But a word of warning: I had problems using my Pioneer DVD burner and had to resort to an old SCSI Sony burner. For some reason it came up with errors trying to work out the burning power to be used on the CD-RWs. -- Regards, Graham Smith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 03:06 +1100, Graham Smith wrote:
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 02:42, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
well, this simplifies running k3b in root mode, but this is not what I am after. Honestly, imho it is absolutely rediculous that you have to be root to burn a cdrom. I last experienced this with xcdroast about five years ago.
I have just burnt about 20 CD-RW's using my account without any need to run as root. I suggest you try the K3B version on the packman site. You may have to run K3Bsetup to set it to run in non-root mode.
Is Suse still stripping that program off K3B I thought there was a bugzilla on that to get them to correct it?
But a word of warning: I had problems using my Pioneer DVD burner and had to resort to an old SCSI Sony burner. For some reason it came up with errors trying to work out the burning power to be used on the CD-RWs.
I use LiteON on both machines one CDRw and the other DVDRW so the point is moot. I got those because it was recommended by the local group. No drink coasters except with the brand name disks like Maxell. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (7)
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Carl William Spitzer IV
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Dominique Leuenberger
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Eberhard Roloff
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Erik Jakobsen
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Graham Smith
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Lennart Börjeson
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Peter Bradley