[opensuse] Install 10.3 on drive with the recover on it
I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the "recovery" part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Chris Arnold wrote:
I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the "recovery" part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive?
I have installed Linux many times on my R31 and never damaged my recovery partition. However, if you're worried, do a custom install, where you specify the partitions to use. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 20 December 2007, James Knott wrote:
Chris Arnold wrote:
I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the "recovery" part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive?
I have installed Linux many times on my R31 and never damaged my recovery partition. However, if you're worried, do a custom install, where you specify the partitions to use.
-- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org
============ Isn't there something in the instructions that come with these laptops that specifies how to make a Windows disc from the recovery hidden partition? Don't they do that just in case something happens to the drive or the user does something unexpected, like delete it? Seems to me that buyers have gotten lax in their purchases on all these pre-packaged computers. If you have to pay for Windows, shouldn't the user demand a Windows install disc to come with the purchase? I'm getting off subject though, so read your instructions on how to make an install disc before starting your project. And the second part, I agree with using gparted to do everything else. I think even Yast2 partitioning tool will allow you to squeeze down Win and make your necessary install partitions for Suse. regards, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
BandiPat wrote:
On Thursday 20 December 2007, James Knott wrote:
Chris Arnold wrote:
I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the "recovery" part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive?
I have installed Linux many times on my R31 and never damaged my recovery partition. However, if you're worried, do a custom install, where you specify the partitions to use.
-- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org
============ Isn't there something in the instructions that come with these laptops that specifies how to make a Windows disc from the recovery hidden partition? Don't they do that just in case something happens to the drive or the user does something unexpected, like delete it?
Seems to me that buyers have gotten lax in their purchases on all these pre-packaged computers. If you have to pay for Windows, shouldn't the user demand a Windows install disc to come with the purchase? I'm getting off subject though, so read your instructions on how to make an install disc before starting your project.
And the second part, I agree with using gparted to do everything else. I think even Yast2 partitioning tool will allow you to squeeze down Win and make your necessary install partitions for Suse.
regards, Lee
With my R31, the CD was free, at least within the warranty period, but I had to phone to request it. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/21/2007 07:07 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:
I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the "recovery" part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive?
Do you know if the recovery partition is the first or last partition? You could find this either in Windows in the Logical Volume Manager, or through a live cd boot disk. If you want to be sure, I would recommend the gparted live cd, which will let you resize your Windows NTFS partition an add your necessary partitions for Linux, from which you could install 10.3 with great confidence. You can specify within the install exactly how and where it will install. Changing around the partitioning (and even formatting) within gparted (gui frontend to libparted IIANM) is quite intuitive and comfortable if you have some idea what you are doing. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Do you know if the recovery partition is the first or last partition? You could find this either in Windows in the Logical Volume Manager, or through a live cd boot disk. If you want to be sure, I would recommend the gparted live cd, which will let you resize your Windows NTFS partition an add your necessary partitions for Linux, from which you could install 10.3 with great confidence. You can specify within the install exactly how and where it will install. Changing around the partitioning (and even formatting) within gparted (gui frontend to libparted IIANM) is quite intuitive and comfortable if you have some idea what you are doing. HTH.
According to the windoze logical volume manager, it appears to be the last partition -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/21/2007 07:47 AM, Chris Arnold wrote:
Do you know if the recovery partition is the first or last partition? You could find this either in Windows in the Logical Volume Manager, or through a live cd boot disk. If you want to be sure, I would recommend the gparted live cd, which will let you resize your Windows NTFS partition an add your necessary partitions for Linux, from which you could install 10.3 with great confidence. You can specify within the install exactly how and where it will install. Changing around the partitioning (and even formatting) within gparted (gui frontend to libparted IIANM) is quite intuitive and comfortable if you have some idea what you are doing. HTH.
According to the windoze logical volume manager, it appears to be the last partition
In that case, I would definitely (if it were me) use the gparted live cd to make sure exactly what was happening, shrink the first partition, create a swap partition, then a logical containing 2 logical drives for / and /home, and then install 10.3 specifying those. I would also go ahead and format with gparted, but during 10.3 install let it format to be sure. This should not cause a problem with the recovery partition (which is usually a FAT partition with a specific partition code). With it being at the end, I would prefer to see exactly what I was doing, which is easier with gparted than the installer. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Chris Arnold wrote:
I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the "recovery" part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive?
What I would do... is... Buy another 2.5" drive, and install it IN PLACE OF the original hard drive (and for protection of the pins, etc, put it inside a 2.5" drive USB carrier. This way, if you ever want to boot to LoseDOS (or sell the machine), just swap the drives again (and if you get a new laptop...Linux is already installed on the 2.5" disk...boot to run-level 3...play with the graphics and other hardware that needs explicit set up..and voila, you're off and running. but that's just me (sometimes, I would just rather spend the money for the convenience, as long as I'm also getting a tangible object in the whole process). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Chris Arnold wrote:
I am gonna try to explain this as clear as possible. I have an IBM thinkpad T43 and it has that other OS installed. It also has the "recovery" part on the hard drive that i do not want to destroy (as they did not ship recovery cd's with this system). I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. The last time i tried this, i could not figure out how to do this without wipping-out the recovery section on the drive. Can anyone explain how to do this without formatting the entire drive?
if you happen to have windows vista, it's very easy: vista knows howto shrink its partitions. So create one for Linux. no matter where it is. after that, openSUSE installs without problem. Do *not* try the expert partition mode if you are not an expert (and if you where you had not posted this question), this is the better way to lose something. Of course, much better backing up your recover partition if possible - my acer had the utility to di that (and I burned it twice) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 schrieb Chris Arnold:
[...] I want to install suse 10.3 onto this ibm laptop without destroying the "recovery" section of the drive. [...]
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_recover_the_preloaded_OS In particular http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Rescue_and_Recovery HTH Jan -- A penny saved is ridiculous. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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