Can anyone tell me if SuSE 7.1 should work with ADSL from BT in Britain? Thanks, Jonathan Riddell
From: Jonathan Riddell
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if SuSE 7.1 should work with ADSL from BT in Britain?
If you have or get the Business1000 package or above, the ADSL modem comes with an Ethernet connection, which is no problem to use with any OS. If you have or get the Home500 or Business500 you get an Alcatel USB ADSL modem. Alcatel have just released some Linux drivers for the modems (you need a kernel that supports USB), you can get them from ... http://www.alcatel.com/consumer/dsl/speedmgmt.tar.gz http://www.alcatel.com/consumer/dsl/SpeedTouch.tar.gz ...but ignore most of the instructions from them and get it from here... http://www.linuxdude.co.uk/docs/Alcatel-Speedtouch-USB-mini-HOWTO/speedtouch usb.html or http://www.nothing-on.tv/alcatel.html So far I have been unsuccessful in getting this working (mainly USB problems), but others have done it. Hopefully somebody will produce some nice RPMs soon! Cheers Phil
Hello, everyone. I posed a question some time ago regarding the state of DSL in the UK. Here in the US, it is being rolled out at quite a pace, and there is a growing trade in after-market DSL routers. These include the likes of the Cisco 675 which is a simple yet very complete DSL->Ethernet router with built in NAT etc, and devices such as the Linksys one which incorporate the DSL router and a 4 port ethernet hub. Is it not possible to buy the external router from the likes of Micro Warehouse and use it with the lower priced service ? Just because BT sends out a wholly unsuitable device, does that mean you absolutely have to use it ? I really like the Cisco 675 I have. It has worked brilliantly for well over a year now. Bye for now, Stuart. -----Original Message----- From: suse-linux-e-return-53630-stuart=yorkshirepudding.com@lists.suse.com [mailto:suse-linux-e-return-53630-stuart=yorkshirepudding.com@lists.suse .com]On Behalf Of Phil Shrimpton Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:18 PM To: Jonathan Riddell; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] ADSL with BT
From: Jonathan Riddell
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if SuSE 7.1 should work with ADSL from BT in Britain?
If you have or get the Business1000 package or above, the ADSL modem comes with an Ethernet connection, which is no problem to use with any OS. If you have or get the Home500 or Business500 you get an Alcatel USB ADSL modem. <snip>
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 08:47:52PM -0500, stuart@yorkshirepudding.com wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I posed a question some time ago regarding the state of DSL in the UK. Here in the US, it is being rolled out at quite a pace, and there is a growing trade in after-market DSL routers. These include the likes of the Cisco 675 which is a simple yet very complete DSL->Ethernet router with built in NAT etc, and devices such as the Linksys one which incorporate the DSL router and a 4 port ethernet hub.
Is it not possible to buy the external router from the likes of Micro Warehouse and use it with the lower priced service ? Just because BT sends out a wholly unsuitable device, does that mean you absolutely have to use it ?
Depends on how brave you are. The BT contract states that you can only use their hardware. -- David Smith Tel: +44 (0)1454 462380 (direct) STMicroelectronics Fax: +44 (0)1454 617910 1000 Aztec West TINA (ST only): (065) 2380 Almondsbury Home: 01454 616963 BRISTOL Mobile: 07932 642724 BS32 4SQ Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk
From: Dave Smith
Hi,
Depends on how brave you are. The BT contract states that you can only use their hardware.
They also state that only Windows and Mac are supported for the USB version, and only other OS invalidates any support entitlement. Cheers Phil
Hmmm, ever tried getting decent tech support out of a DSL provider ? When I had questions during my original setup phase, US Worst were no help whatsoever. In fact, at one point, they asked me and a friend of mine to start monitoring their newsgroups to help out newbies because we knew more about making it work than the techs did. This is a very sad state of affairs. I suppose I'm more interested in the technical fesibility of using a third party router with the service than the contractual issues. BT have been shafting customers for years, so I don't especially care about their wants and needs. Bye for now, Stuart. -----Original Message----- From: Phil Shrimpton [mailto:phil@shrimpton.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:42 AM To: Dave Smith; stuart@yorkshirepudding.com Cc: phil@shrimpton.co.uk; jr050@jriddell.org; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] ADSL with BT
From: Dave Smith
Hi,
Depends on how brave you are. The BT contract states that you can only use their hardware.
They also state that only Windows and Mac are supported for the USB version, and only other OS invalidates any support entitlement. Cheers Phil
From: Stuart Powell
Hi,
Is it not possible to buy the external router from the likes of Micro Warehouse and use it with the lower priced service ? Just because BT sends out a wholly unsuitable device, does that mean you absolutely have to use it
I think they do insist you use their supplied modem, but is something I need to look into. Cheers Phil
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:59:22AM +0100, phil@shrimpton.co.uk wrote:
From: Stuart Powell
Hi,
Is it not possible to buy the external router from the likes of Micro Warehouse and use it with the lower priced service ? Just because BT sends out a wholly unsuitable device, does that mean you absolutely have to use it
I think they do insist you use their supplied modem, but is something I need to look into.
I can't find any explicit mention in BT's T&Cs on their website other than prohibiting 'tampering' with their equipment, but Demon, who are intending to offer ADSL services with BT providing the connection and modem say in their FAQ: Is there anything to stop me from buying an ADSL modem with an Ethernet interface and using that instead of the supplied USB modem? BT supply the end to end service, which includes splitter, modem and (for Plus, Pro and Gold) a router. If you were to change the modem you would be in breach of contract and could be disconnected. -- David Smith Tel: +44 (0)1454 462380 (direct) STMicroelectronics Fax: +44 (0)1454 617910 1000 Aztec West TINA (ST only): (065) 2380 Almondsbury Home: 01454 616963 BRISTOL Mobile: 07932 642724 BS32 4SQ Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk
You are absoluttely right. You HAVE to stick with the BT supplied router. Full stop Even if you get the Alcatel Tech Manual, you will realize that all the nice features (including SNMP) have been 'deleted' ... That's BT for you ... Thomas Beauchamp -----Original Message----- From: Dave Smith [mailto:Dave.Smith@st.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:04 PM To: phil@shrimpton.co.uk Cc: stuart@yorkshirepudding.com; jr050@jriddell.org; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] ADSL with BT On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:59:22AM +0100, phil@shrimpton.co.uk wrote:
From: Stuart Powell
Hi,
Is it not possible to buy the external router from the likes of Micro Warehouse and use it with the lower priced service ? Just because BT sends out a wholly unsuitable device, does that mean you absolutely have to use it
I think they do insist you use their supplied modem, but is something I need to look into.
I can't find any explicit mention in BT's T&Cs on their website other than prohibiting 'tampering' with their equipment, but Demon, who are intending to offer ADSL services with BT providing the connection and modem say in their FAQ: Is there anything to stop me from buying an ADSL modem with an Ethernet interface and using that instead of the supplied USB modem? BT supply the end to end service, which includes splitter, modem and (for Plus, Pro and Gold) a router. If you were to change the modem you would be in breach of contract and could be disconnected. -- David Smith Tel: +44 (0)1454 462380 (direct) STMicroelectronics Fax: +44 (0)1454 617910 1000 Aztec West TINA (ST only): (065) 2380 Almondsbury Home: 01454 616963 BRISTOL Mobile: 07932 642724 BS32 4SQ Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com
Hi, This might be a Windows issue, but I am sure somebody else is in the same situation. We have a Windows server at work that has a permanent connection to the internet. I have a Linux laptop that can 'ping' the servers IP address and do other things (FTP etc.), but I can't work out how to use its internet connection. I know the internet connections IP address, but can't ping it or anything. Any ideas would be appreciated. Cheers Phil
Subject: [SLE] Using a Windows' box internet connection from Linux
We have a Windows server at work that has a permanent connection to the internet. I have a Linux laptop that can 'ping' the servers IP address and do other things (FTP etc.), but I can't work out how to use
its internet
connection. I know the internet connections IP address, but can't ping it or anything.
Why don't you set up a proxy server/firewall on the Windows box? I have the same scenario and use MS Proxy Server on the Windows box. On the Linux side, I set Netscape to use the proxy (my Windows server, port 80) My windows server currently lets http and ftp to the Internet (from my Linux Netscape). All other ports are blocked. If you need to you can set up socks on the Linux box (client side) to allow other tools/apps to access the Internet via the Windows proxy/firewall. You would also have to do some configuration on the Windows box to open the necessary ports for each app/tool. I haven't progressed this far yet, as the basic Linux Netscape ftp/http is all I really need to use at the moment. I am sure there a freeware/shareware windows proxies on the net that you could try out on the server if you don't want to buy the MS proxy software HTH regards Garry
From: Garry Smith
Hi,
Why don't you set up a proxy server/firewall on the Windows box? I have the same scenario and use MS Proxy Server on the Windows box.
I am sure there a freeware/shareware windows proxies on the net that you could try out on the server if you don't want to buy the MS proxy software
Thanks to all for suggestions. I installed Analogx Proxy (http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm) on the Windows box, set the proxy server settings in Netscrape and all was working in a little under 5 mins. Had a few issues with getting email out, but everything is working fine. Cheers Phil
Here is a nice proxy tool for windows, very easy to use and works well. Of course (in perfect work I/we would use Linux as the server ;-) http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network.htm you set up netscape as the other fellow described Analog proxy server is s great tool rob Phil Shrimpton wrote:
Hi,
This might be a Windows issue, but I am sure somebody else is in the same situation.
We have a Windows server at work that has a permanent connection to the internet. I have a Linux laptop that can 'ping' the servers IP address and do other things (FTP etc.), but I can't work out how to use its internet connection. I know the internet connections IP address, but can't ping it or anything.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Cheers
Phil
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