[opensuse] CAnt burn iso dvd's
I'm using Opensuse 11.0 w/ KDE3 on a Dell Inspiron 1545.........I've tried to burn a bootable iso dvd using k3b and Tkdvd without success. The iso is burned but will not boot. I tried several different dvd iso's but none will boot. I can burn data dvds and have successfully burned bootable iso and data cd's using the same writer and K3b. Has anyone else had a similar problem or know of a cure? I checked the k3b lists and others with no luck so far. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I'm using Opensuse 11.0 w/ KDE3 on a Dell Inspiron 1545.........I've tried to burn a bootable iso dvd using k3b and Tkdvd without success. The iso is burned but will not boot. I tried several different dvd iso's but none will boot. I can burn data dvds and have successfully burned bootable iso and data cd's using the same writer and K3b.
Has anyone else had a similar problem or know of a cure?
I checked the k3b lists and others with no luck so far.
Richard
You are burning it a iso right? and not simply burning the file to disk?? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 20 April 2009 10:36:31 pm Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
You are burning it a iso right? and not simply burning the file to disk??
Yes. I've tried several different iso's such as Ubuntu, Knoppix. Cd iso's will burn ok and be bootable. The dvd's burn but are not bootable. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 20 April 2009 10:36:31 pm Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
You are burning it a iso right? and not simply burning the file to disk??
Yes sir, it is an iso. And all is written to the dvd but it wont boot. Am in the process of checking the programs used by k3b against one that works. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Monday 20 April 2009 10:36:31 pm Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
You are burning it a iso right? and not simply burning the file to disk??
Yes sir, it is an iso. And all is written to the dvd but it wont boot. Am in the process of checking the programs used by k3b against one that works. Richard
Regardless of whether it will boot or not, when you stick it in a drive of a running Linux machine (or even windows) can you see a directory structure on the CD or do you see a single file with an extension of .iso??? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:57:49 -0500, Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Monday 20 April 2009 10:36:31 pm Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
You are burning it a iso right? and not simply burning the file to disk??
Yes sir, it is an iso. And all is written to the dvd but it wont boot. Am in the process of checking the programs used by k3b against one that works. Richard
If it's burning the data, try dropping the burn speed to 1x - I've read several suggestions in other venues that say that if you burn unreadable or unbootable discs, sometimes it's a media problem that can be corrected with a lower burn speed. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2009-04-21 at 22:32 -0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
If it's burning the data, try dropping the burn speed to 1x - I've read several suggestions in other venues that say that if you burn unreadable or unbootable discs, sometimes it's a media problem that can be corrected with a lower burn speed.
You can't really burn high speed DVD media at very low speed, it is in fact different media (x1 or x2). Normally the burner will ignore the command to burn at x1 or give an error and refuse. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknuTi8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UQDQCfTpENhT/HOyhGfEpP52MhIEoC ewAAn1wetFkNi5mDqZcgogQSkevZpmLK =020C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Carlos E. R. wrote:-
On Tuesday, 2009-04-21 at 22:32 -0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
If it's burning the data, try dropping the burn speed to 1x - I've read several suggestions in other venues that say that if you burn unreadable or unbootable discs, sometimes it's a media problem that can be corrected with a lower burn speed.
You can't really burn high speed DVD media at very low speed, it is in fact different media (x1 or x2). Normally the burner will ignore the command to burn at x1 or give an error and refuse.
I've found that unless the media supports slow burn speeds, e.g. 2.4x +RW/+RDL or 2x -RW, the drive won't go below 4x[0] to burn them. [0] Or 6x in the case of some 16x media I used a while ago. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 10.3 PPC | RISC OS 3.6 | RISC OS 3.11 | TOS 4.02 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:52:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Tuesday, 2009-04-21 at 22:32 -0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
If it's burning the data, try dropping the burn speed to 1x - I've read several suggestions in other venues that say that if you burn unreadable or unbootable discs, sometimes it's a media problem that can be corrected with a lower burn speed.
You can't really burn high speed DVD media at very low speed, it is in fact different media (x1 or x2). Normally the burner will ignore the command to burn at x1 or give an error and refuse.
Interesting, I see this recommendation quite frequently around the 'net. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:32:24 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:52:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Tuesday, 2009-04-21 at 22:32 -0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
If it's burning the data, try dropping the burn speed to 1x - I've read several suggestions in other venues that say that if you burn unreadable or unbootable discs, sometimes it's a media problem that can be corrected with a lower burn speed.
You can't really burn high speed DVD media at very low speed, it is in fact different media (x1 or x2). Normally the burner will ignore the command to burn at x1 or give an error and refuse.
Interesting, I see this recommendation quite frequently around the 'net.
I suppose I could rephrase as "burn at the lowest speed the media will let you"... :-) Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2009-04-21 at 23:32 -0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
Interesting, I see this recommendation quite frequently around the 'net.
Try the command "dvd+rw-mediainfo" on your blank DVDs, it gives interesting info. There are some lines listing the speed at which that particular DVD can be burned. I don't have one inside at the moment, or I'd copy a sample, and I feel too lazy to get up and put one in O:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknuW4YACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VvaACffdNLSqW2K8vFdQHghA7qT2G0 p/AAn1qcvuAs9bS1jN+BSsdkjFlC5sa6 =PSN2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Monday 20 April 2009 10:36:31 pm Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
You are burning it a iso right? and not simply burning the file to disk??
Yes sir, it is an iso. And all is written to the dvd but it wont boot. Am in the process of checking the programs used by k3b against one that works. Richard
Try following at CLI.... wodim dev=<devicename> -prcap to get an idea of what wodim knows about media and drive. This command will probably need to be run as root. For burning use growisofs -dvd-compat -Z <device name>=<iso source> see man growisofs. K3b monkeys around with default settings and special switches when the defaults work 90% of the time on good hardware and media. I would at the moment use K3b to build an image but not to burn it. What may also help is if try... isovfy <device name> see man isovfy to check the integrity of the image (of limited value but of some use). - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknu0zEACgkQasN0sSnLmgKDXwCfb1crRiaPzAS0L8QSbnLril6X pL8An3EpvYcBfdEeN7mnK2FZPQ55fsNj =gS0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-04-22 at 09:20 +0100, G T Smith wrote: ...
For burning use
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z <device name>=<iso source>
see man growisofs.
K3b monkeys around with default settings and special switches when the defaults work 90% of the time on good hardware and media. I would at the moment use K3b to build an image but not to burn it.
Same here... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknu3CYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Uz0QCfR/Tc4Ttl8hyqGJ036shce5Fl FwQAn2yPMx2Wjum5OJoHYqK0Wuq3vDHQ =VUhr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Am Mittwoch, 22. April 2009 10:20:01 schrieb G T Smith:
For burning use
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z <device name>=<iso source>
Can you tell me what makes growisofs better than wodim? Thanks Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Am Mittwoch, 22. April 2009 10:20:01 schrieb G T Smith:
For burning use
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z <device name>=<iso source>
Can you tell me what makes growisofs better than wodim?
Thanks Karl
growisofs is best for burning to DVD or multi-session work and does use elements of wodim, for DVD burning wodim can be used but the information to perform a DVD burn has to be supplied to wodim and you need to know what you are doing if you want to avoid coaster creation. growisofs works out what needs to be done, so I have never felt the need experiment with wodim on DVD burns. (The original cdrecord could not handle DVD, and IIRC multi-session support was limited). For single session CDs either should do job, though wodim is plausibly a better choice. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknwMb0ACgkQasN0sSnLmgL6zQCfadK+EsTfDQoLUz54/3YxoKIY 6/cAoK61oTvDX1HxoWMHPxg4skASFt3d =r9SH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 03:20:01 am G T Smith wrote:
Try following at CLI....
wodim dev=<devicename> -prcap
to get an idea of what wodim knows about media and drive. This command will probably need to be run as root.
For burning use
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z <device name>=<iso source>
see man growisofs.
K3b monkeys around with default settings and special switches when the defaults work 90% of the time on good hardware and media. I would at the moment use K3b to build an image but not to burn it.
What may also help is if try...
isovfy <device name>
see man isovfy
to check the integrity of the image (of limited value but of some use).
Thanks to all who have responded., I haven't been ignoring your suggestions, but trying them all. I've had no success burning the bootable iso onto a dvd. That is, it looks like everythign is there but the dvd wont boot. So I booted into vista which is still on this machine and burned the same iso image with the same results. My conclusion is the dvd writer may be defective or the iso image is bad. Am downloading a new and different iso image to make another check. BTW, the laptop is a new Dell inspiron 1545 which I've had for only a few weeks. The media is both memorex and Ridata which I have used many times. All are x4 for dvds and each app burns at less than 4x. Until now I've never had a problem except for my own stupidity or temporary problems with updates to k3b or the programs it uses. Again, thanks for the assistance. I'll report the results of my testing. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:30:41 -0500, Richard Atcheson wrote:
I've had no success burning the bootable iso onto a dvd. That is, it looks like everythign is there but the dvd wont boot. So I booted into vista which is still on this machine and burned the same iso image with the same results. My conclusion is the dvd writer may be defective or the iso image is bad. Am downloading a new and different iso image to make another check.
Maybe a dumb question, but have you checked the boot sequence in the BIOS to make sure that the DVD drive is set to be the boot device before the hard drive, or have you tried using a temporary boot menu (whatever it's called on that laptop) to select the drive as a boot device for a single boot? Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 23 April 2009 04:03:02 pm Jim Henderson wrote:
Maybe a dumb question, but have you checked the boot sequence in the BIOS to make sure that the DVD drive is set to be the boot device before the hard drive, or have you tried using a temporary boot menu (whatever it's called on that laptop) to select the drive as a boot device for a single boot?
That's not a dumb question, but yes I checked that several times. I have concluded that I had two bad dvd downloads . 2 separate iso files of two separate programs downloaded at different times. I was able to copy a bootable dvd using k3b and so downloaded another copy of Knoppix from another mirror. Just burned it and the dvd boots on both this and another laptop. I checked the md5 sums on the two non bootable ones and it's correct. Guess this problem is mainly multiple errors on my part. Thanks still for the help. It got me looking at things I hadnt thought about. Richard. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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