[opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. Thanks AE Souza ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
this list have one only great problem: it's very busy. If this don't bother you, you can ask whatever thing you need, even very basic. if you prefere forums (like in PHPBB), you may find many with google in your main language jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 03 December 2007 03:47, Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
Thanks
AE Souza
You are well ahead of me, if you already have a Unix background. I don't think you are going to find a better forum than what's here. Sometimes I'm snowed by what comes back, and there are some (most) scripts that blow me away, but this is a good place to find help. It would help if you have a recent SuSE "Administration Guide." I'm not sure if the latest versions come with manuals. The last one I have is for 9.2. Unless you want to work in the "console" the various Linux manuals that tell you how to use man pages, and so on, are probably not going to be helpful, altho the "Linux Bible" does have some useful stuff in it. If you are going to use SuSE, you need some kind of info for YAST, etc., so I hope there are modern manuals. I have not been overwhelmed by the reports on this group for the 10.x series of SuSE, altho some seem to have had good results. I am sticking to an earlier version for the time being. Good luck. --doug Blessed are the peacemakers ... for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Monday 03 December 2007 03:47, Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
You are well ahead of me, if you already have a Unix background. I don't think you are going to find a better forum than what's here. Sometimes I'm snowed by what comes back, and there are some (most) scripts that blow me away, but this is a good place to find help.
It would help if you have a recent SuSE "Administration Guide." I'm not sure if the latest versions come with manuals. The last one I have is for 9.2. Unless you want to work in the "console" the various Linux manuals that tell you how to use man pages, and so on, are probably not going to be helpful, altho the "Linux Bible" does have some useful stuff in it. If you are going to use SuSE, you need some kind of info for YAST, etc., so I hope there are modern manuals.
I can just share 18-24 months experience with Linux in general, and with SuSE and now OpenSUSE. I started some years ago with the first Slackware CD's; it was so complicated that I shelved it then. In 2005 I started again, with SuSE 8.x, and it was achievable with a very heavy learning curve for a W2K and previous attempts of operating systems by Redmnd. I have never looked back. The biggest help were these Mailing Lists. They may look foreboding at first, if you only know the MickSoft world, like it was for me who actually even got a MCP in1997. Once the OSS world and Unix type of OS's are understood, there is no alternative. A good start are the PDF books that come with the DVD (OpenSUSE). If you are prepared to buy the Novell boxed version - Novell SUSE Enterprise Desktop or SLED (same basis as OpenSUSE) - you get the printed books. For the beginner there used to be a users manual, and for the admin there was an administration manual as well. I read them, from first installation to presently working with cluster servers. The *O'Reilly *SuSE "Administration Guide" is the next step. You could also look at the Linux Bible for various distros. HTH :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/03/2007 Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
Thanks
AE Souza
I know what your talking about. In my case I do a LOT of <Delete> key work. If something is way ahead of you or not useful just delete it and go on. I promise everything comes back around so you will get the same thing when your ready for it. By hanging out in the sidelines for a couple years I have learned a lot, so stick around. It would be nice though if fresh newbies could have a list to get answers for the simple stuff without wading through all the high end stuff. And whatever you do, DON'T top post. Don't ask why, just take my word for it. You don't want to do that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Dec 3, 2007 3:47 AM, Tony D'Souza
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
Tony, I've been on here for years and could likely understand most of the discussion. I typically delete 90% of the e-mail after just reading the subject line. It is just overwhelming to try and read it all. As to switching to a Linux desktop: I'm very experienced with Linux from the command-line, but a relative newbie with the Linux GUI. I made the switch to a Linux GUI on my office workstation a couple months ago. I knew I needed a XP crutch to fall back on for some of my business needs. So I installed (64-bit) SUSE 10.3 with a (32-bit) vmware server (free) setup to allow me to run the few programs I need from XP. The vmware instance uses about 512MB of RAM all the time, and it is not the fastest thing in the world. An older machine may have trouble running this setup, but I have a 9 month old $500 Dell w/1GB of RAM and it is doing fine. (XP can be a little slow at times). It can be a little hard to setup the vmware environment, but not too terrible. I only get into XP a few times a week, but it is nice to have when timelines are short and Linux is not setup for the feature you need yet. And by going that way you can continue to run XP apps as long as you need to as you transition to Linux. FYI: You will still need an XP license and licenses for any commercial XP software you install. If you want to give that a shot, then start a new thread and put something like newbie in the subject Also there is wiki entry about this, but I think it is a little out of date. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 03 December 2007 00:47, Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
heck, if a newbie like me can understand this forum, anyone can! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 03 December 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Monday 03 December 2007 00:47, Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
heck, if a newbie like me can understand this forum, anyone can!
=========== Everything will seem easier as you use things and become more accustomed to the terminology, but overall it will be as easy as it was for you to learn Windows. Remember when you had to learn that? ;-) One that Kai mentions, newbie, might be a good point in your emails. If you want to begin your emails/questions with "newbie alert", more people will know how to approach your question in understandable terms. There are some here that can no longer drop down to that level any longer, but no matter, there will be helpful parts to their emails as well. Just ask as much as you can from what you know, providing as much info as you can and you'll usually find somebody will have some useful information for you. Sometimes, because of your lack of time with Linux, you don't know the correct question to ask, but explain what you are trying to do and maybe what you've tried. I think you'll find this list to be as helpful as anything. Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
BandiPat pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Monday 03 December 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Monday 03 December 2007 00:47, Tony D'Souza wrote:
100% once I'm confident enough. heck, if a newbie like me can understand this forum, anyone can!
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Everything will seem easier as you use things and become more accustomed to the terminology, but overall it will be as easy as it was for you to learn Windows. Remember when you had to learn that? ;-)
One that Kai mentions, newbie, might be a good point in your emails. If you want to begin your emails/questions with "newbie alert", more people will know how to approach your question in understandable terms. There are some here that can no longer drop down to that level any longer, but no matter, there will be helpful parts to their emails as well. Just ask as much as you can from what you know, providing as much info as you can and you'll usually find somebody will have some useful information for you.
Sometimes, because of your lack of time with Linux, you don't know the correct question to ask, but explain what you are trying to do and maybe what you've tried. I think you'll find this list to be as helpful as anything.
Lee
And remember, on this list the only stupid question is the one that *isn't* asked. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 03 December 2007 20:22, Ken Schneider wrote:
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And remember, on this list the only stupid question is the one that *isn't* asked.
You insult the multitude of questions I have not asked! What did you way was the purpose of this list??
-- Ken Schneider
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Randall R Schulz pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Monday 03 December 2007 20:22, Ken Schneider wrote:
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And remember, on this list the only stupid question is the one that *isn't* asked.
You insult the multitude of questions I have not asked!
Just think of how stupid I feel! :-)
What did you way was the purpose of this list??
Answering smart questions. :-) -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
Thanks
AE Souza
____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Hi, Tony; Looks like everyone here is giving you pretty good advice. I would like to add, that if you don't understand something on the list, and would like to, there is usually someone willing to help if you just ask. If an explanation is over you head, just say so, and a simpler explanation will usually be offered. -ED- P.S. Sorry, didn't mean to send that direct. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ed McCanless wrote:
Tony D'Souza wrote:
Hi All:
This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough.
Thanks
AE Souza
____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Hi, Tony;
Looks like everyone here is giving you pretty good advice. I would like to add, that if you don't understand something on the list, and would like to, there is usually someone willing to help if you just ask. If an explanation is over you head, just say so, and a simpler explanation will usually be offered.
-ED-
P.S. Sorry, didn't mean to send that direct.
Let me add to Ed's comments, "be polite". Keep in mind that most of the people on this list are here voluntarily and on their own time. A couple of negative comments by a newbie can get that newbie ignored. On the other hand, most are willing to help as long as they feel appreciated. I've had some of my most significant learning experiences right here on this list. Hang around and you will shortly find yourself giving advice instead of asking for it. Don Henson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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