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From: Alex Daniloff
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:55:25 -0800
From: Michael Perry
Hello SuSE folkz, I have a wired question. May be Lenz will be able to answer it. Is SuSE planning to port it's distro on Pocket PCs and PDAs. I saw a couple of pocket Linux projects on http://www.pocketlinux.com but they mostly derivatives from Red Hat and Debian distros. Is there any chance to get SuSE on Pocket PC in the future? Thanks. Alex
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Hopefully not the 6 cd version :-) -- Michael Perry mperry@tsoft.com ------------------
Message-ID: <200011100839570293.4D96CC28@exchange1>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:39:57 -0500
From: "Tim Duggan"
Hello SuSE folkz, I have a wired question. May be Lenz will be able to answer it. Is SuSE planning to port it's distro on Pocket PCs and PDAs. I saw a couple of pocket Linux projects on http://www.pocketlinux.com but they mostly derivatives from Red Hat and Debian distros. Is there any chance to get SuSE on Pocket PC in the future?
I not sure I understand the question. The pocketlinux software is available in rpm and deb packages which is probably the source of the confusion, as they refer to the packages as Red Hat and Debian. As I understand it the two packages are the same it is just a matter of package format. The real difference comes in with the kernels since these are highly specialized machines and are often different chipsets. I think pocket linux is it's own unique distro since it is so different from a "standard" install (standard meaning PC, workstation, server etc.) Another site you might find interesting is here http://embedded.centurysoftware.com/ They seem to have teamed up with the microwindows/nano-X project. I found it yesterday while doing my daily reading at alllinuxdevices.com and linuxdevices.com Later, Tim
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:53:12 +0100 (CET)
From: Lenz Grimmer
I have a wired question. May be Lenz will be able to answer it. Is SuSE planning to port it's distro on Pocket PCs and PDAs. I saw a couple of pocket Linux projects on http://www.pocketlinux.com but they mostly derivatives from Red Hat and Debian distros. Is there any chance to get SuSE on Pocket PC in the future?
My chrystal ball does not work very well at the moment, therefore I cannot foresee the far future. But for the time being, there are no such plans. However, we do watch the embedded market and have people working on projects (e.g. Pete Buechler with ODDAS http://oddas.sourceforge.net/). The first issue of the Embedded Journal also had an article about a guy using SuSE Linux as a basis for his embedded project. So, it is possible :) LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90443 Nuernberg, Germany Virtue is easy for an ugly woman.
From: "Thomas Beauchamp"
I have a wired question. May be Lenz will be able to answer it. Is SuSE planning to port it's distro on Pocket PCs and PDAs. I saw a couple of pocket Linux projects on http://www.pocketlinux.com but they mostly derivatives from Red Hat and Debian distros. Is there any chance to get SuSE on Pocket PC in the future?
My chrystal ball does not work very well at the moment, therefore I cannot foresee the far future. But for the time being, there are no such plans. However, we do watch the embedded market and have people working on projects (e.g. Pete Buechler with ODDAS http://oddas.sourceforge.net/). The first issue of the Embedded Journal also had an article about a guy using SuSE Linux as a basis for his embedded project. So, it is possible :) LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90443 Nuernberg, Germany Virtue is easy for an ugly woman. <p><p>-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
From: "T. Koray Peksayar"
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:09:07 -0800
From: Michael Perry
Well guys and gals,
I don't think any distro will port any package nor driver to any PDA. These PDA's are brain dead (yet useful) dev's but they are completely different in architecture.
So the real answer comes : There's a plan for Samsung to release a PDA running Linux and only Linux, powerful and versatile then others. It's called YOPY and will be available in 2001 I think. It has a built-in camera, a high-color TFT display, high quality earphones, one touch function key, web browser, e-mail client, chat client, voice recorder, MP3 encoder, MP3 player and many other specialities.
I remember an article on estimation for the performance and high-availability: Summary is "Time to die for CE and Pilot OS" :)
Koray
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There are others too releasing linux-based PDAs. I think that a few of them will come out at the same time as the yopy and offer different featuresets. One will be from a relatively well known pda/hpc maker out there now :) -- Michael Perry mperry@tsoft.com ------------------
Message-ID: <200011101314120644.4E91E2DF@exchange1>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:14:12 -0500
From: "Tim Duggan"
Well guys and gals,
I don't think any distro will port any package nor driver to any PDA. These PDA's are brain dead (yet useful) dev's but they are completely different in architecture.
I agree that the lack of a memory management unit makes the motorola dragonball (palm OS) and arm7tdmi (?) based devices brain dead. Many of the others are very complete as far as the CPU goes. The Agenda VR3, Vandem Clio, Vtech Helio and Casio E-105 all have a mips processor very similiar to the one found in SGI workstations. The Compaq iPaq is very close to the YOPY, both have StrongArm 1110 processors and I'd be willing to bet most software would function on both. I do have to admit that after looking at all of them the YOPY is definitely the most integrated and complete unit that I have seen. Very impressive.
So the real answer comes : There's a plan for Samsung to release a PDA running Linux and only Linux, powerful and versatile then others. It's called YOPY and will be available in 2001 I think.
The real test is if it's possible to play a networked deathmatch in doom or heretic (it looks possible). http://www.yopydeveloper.org/index.html It would certainly liven up board meetings :-) Later, Tim
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