On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote:

Hi,

Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen.

Thank you! Ron -- chEErs Ron

============ Hi Ron, I don't know if this will work for you or not, but it was a neat solution to problems like this. I'm not sure if xorg fully supports that chipset and if not, I think Intel has a driver for Linux on their site. Try this first though. In your xorg.conf file go to: DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection EndSection Now just add your 1680x1050 resolution in front of each that begins with "1280x1024". Restart your X and see what you have. Don't forget to make a backup of your xorg.conf file too. The above is from mine, so yours may look a bit different. regards, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote:

On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote:

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On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote:

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Hi,

Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen.

Thank you! Ron -- chEErs Ron

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Hi Ron, I don't know if this will work for you or not, but it was a neat solution to problems like this. I'm not sure if xorg fully supports that chipset and if not, I think Intel has a driver for Linux on their site.

Try this first though. In your xorg.conf file go to:

DefaultDepth 24

Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection EndSection

Now just add your 1680x1050 resolution in front of each that begins with "1280x1024". Restart your X and see what you have. Don't forget to make a backup of your xorg.conf file too. The above is from mine, so yours may look a bit different.

regards, Lee

This didn't work, it would not start the x server anymore. i can't recall all the error messages but it said something bout an incompatibility

You also need to supply a line in the Section "Modes" area as well.

I didn't add anything in section Modes tho. Not sure how I would add it, now it says: Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1280x1024" 141.82 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1070 Modeline "1280x1024" 130.17 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066 Modeline "1280x1024" 120.01 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1063 Modeline "1280x1024" 114.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 1024 1027 1034 1061 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1280x1024" 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1060 Modeline "1280x960" 131.72 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1003 Modeline "1280x960" 122.11 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1000 Modeline "1280x960" 111.52 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 997 Modeline "1280x960" 107.25 1280 1328 1360 1440 960 963 967 995 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1280x960" 102.10 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 Modeline "1280x800" 108.77 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 836 Modeline "1280x800" 100.78 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 833 Modeline "1280x800" 92.08 1280 1352 1488 1696 800 801 804 831 Modeline "1280x800" 89.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 829 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1280x800" 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828 Modeline "1152x864" 106.51 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 903 Modeline "1152x864" 97.69 1152 1224 1344 1536 864 865 868 900 Modeline "1152x864" 90.02 1152 1224 1344 1536 864 865 868 897 Modeline "1152x864" 88.00 1152 1200 1232 1312 864 867 871 895 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1152x864" 81.62 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 Modeline "1280x768" 104.48 1280 1360 1496 1712 768 769 772 803 Modeline "1280x768" 95.88 1280 1352 1488 1696 768 769 772 800 Modeline "1280x768" 88.42 1280 1352 1488 1696 768 769 772 798 Modeline "1280x768" 85.75 1280 1328 1360 1440 768 771 778 796 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1280x768" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795 Modeline "1024x768" 83.00 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 803 Modeline "1024x768" 76.89 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 800 Modeline "1024x768" 70.50 1024 1072 1104 1184 768 771 775 796 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1024x768" 70.07 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 798 Modeline "1024x768" 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795 Modeline "1280x600" 80.06 1280 1344 1480 1680 600 601 604 627 Modeline "1280x600" 73.49 1280 1336 1472 1664 600 601 604 625 Modeline "1280x600" 67.08 1280 1336 1464 1648 600 601 604 623 Modeline "1280x600" 67.00 1280 1328 1360 1440 600 603 613 622 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1280x600" 61.50 1280 1336 1464 1648 600 601 604 622 Modeline "1024x600" 64.04 1024 1080 1184 1344 600 601 604 627 Modeline "1024x600" 58.65 1024 1072 1176 1328 600 601 604 625 Modeline "1024x600" 55.00 1024 1072 1104 1184 600 603 613 622 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1024x600" 54.05 1024 1072 1176 1328 600 601 604 623 Modeline "1024x600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 Modeline "800x600" 50.32 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 627 Modeline "800x600" 45.93 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 625 Modeline "800x600" 44.75 800 848 880 960 600 603 607 622 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "800x600" 42.33 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 623 Modeline "800x600" 38.22 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622 Modeline "768x576" 46.12 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 602 Modeline "768x576" 42.06 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 600 Modeline "768x576" 41.50 768 816 848 928 576 579 583 597 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "768x576" 38.82 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 599 Modeline "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 Modeline "640x480" 31.13 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 502 Modeline "640x480" 29.75 640 688 720 800 480 483 487 498 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "640x480" 28.83 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 500 Modeline "640x480" 26.60 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 499 Modeline "640x480" 23.86 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497 EndSection Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me.... i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there? Thanks! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 09 September 2007 10:31:16 am David C. Rankin wrote:

roN wrote:

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On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote:

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On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote:

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On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote:

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Hi,

Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen.

Thank you! Ron --

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Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me.... i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there?

Thanks!

Wait *Stop* *Read* http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/

I have been through this in great detail and with great pain with opensuse 10.0. (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-April/023179.html)

You are *very* luck to be running 10.2 because the 10.2 kernel will support 1680x1050 resolution natively and you will be spared the learning experience of having to build X, Mesa, and Dri/Drm from source. (see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/)

The bottom line for you is a 3 step process(qualified with an "I'm pretty sure" speaking only from 10.0 experience):

(1) you will need to download or install from Yast the 915resolution tool;

(2) you will follow the instructions to patch a video mode in your video card for 1680x1050 resolution; and

(3) you will make the xorg.conf changes required and then restart X.

Your 10.2 install and kernel should then provide 1680x1050 resolution without having to hack and compile anything else. The steps 1,2 and 3 above will require you to manually patch your video card BIOS and manually edit several config files. Yast will not be involved int he process.

Good luck, it will work for you and, if my process doesn't on first try, then the links provided will give you the required information to get the job done.

Okay, David, Thanks alot for this but i stumble over the first stones already :o (1) Okay, I've installed 915resolution tool with Yast (actually it already has been installed) (2) I try to patch my xorg with instructions posted on http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/. it says "Option "ForceBIOS" "1024x768=1400x1050" This will re-program the old 1024x768 to become a new 1400x1050 one." but I can't find a section "driver" where i'm supposed to place this option. So I just crearted it myself on the bottom i wrote: Section "driver" ForceBIOS "1024x768=1400x1050" EndSection (3) I excitedly restarted X and it said: waitting for X server to shut down Free Font Path: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; finxing. - so i made a "startx" and i was told: Fatal server error: no screens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. - okay no way i can start it like this so i launched "sax2" and i got a bunch of error messages after i saved a working configuration and sax closed: Parse error on line 207 of secton driver in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf "driver" is not a valid section name. Problem when parsing config file. Isax could not import file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf at /usr/sbin/isax line 171. So i'm stuck here and i don't know further can you (or anybody else) may help me? It would be appreciated! Thank you! Ron -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Ron,

Have a look at the 915resolution commands a little closer. I don't recall a "ForceBios" option being involved at all. You will modify your video bios as "root" from the command line and it will involve replacing a video mode like '4c' with 915resolution. (i.e. # 915resolution 5c 1400 1050)

See: http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/08/20/absolute-beginner-guide-91 5resolution/

But David, It only gives me following modes: [shell] desktop-reg:/home/reg # 915resolution -l Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.2 Chipset: 965Q BIOS: TYPE 1 Mode Table Offset: $C0000 + $268 Mode Table Entries: 27 Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 800x600, 16 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel desktop-reg:/home/reg # [/shell] There's no 1680x1050 mode... :( what do you recommend now? :o Thanks! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

roN wrote:

On Sunday 09 September 2007 10:31:16 am David C. Rankin wrote:

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roN wrote:

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On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote:

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On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote:

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On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote:

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Hi,

Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen.

Thank you! Ron --

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Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me.... i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there?

Thanks! Wait *Stop* *Read* http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/

I have been through this in great detail and with great pain with opensuse 10.0. (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-April/023179.html)

You are *very* luck to be running 10.2 because the 10.2 kernel will support 1680x1050 resolution natively and you will be spared the learning experience of having to build X, Mesa, and Dri/Drm from source. (see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/)

The bottom line for you is a 3 step process(qualified with an "I'm pretty sure" speaking only from 10.0 experience):

(1) you will need to download or install from Yast the 915resolution tool;

(2) you will follow the instructions to patch a video mode in your video card for 1680x1050 resolution; and but the 915resolution tool wouldn't actually offer 1680x1050. I only got following modes: Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 800x600, 16 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel So I don't know how i should go from here, any other suggestions?

Thank you!

Sorry so long getting back to you Ron, but I have to pay attention to my real job on occasions. *You* have to make it give you 1680x1050 by patching one of the bios modes! (i.e. You have to change one of the modes with 915resolution to modify the bios and put 1680x1050 in there in place of one of the existing modes.) Pick any mode that you don't use and patch that mode for 1680x1050, say mode (43) for example which is by default (800x600). Recall the required options for setting/patching a mode are: 915resolution [mode] [width] [height] [color-depth] So do this as root: # 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24 Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you should get: # 915resolution -l Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel # Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a resolution option for sax2. I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a "forest for the trees issue" and once you get it, you will see how simple it is. Good luck again! More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052 -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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So do this as root:

# 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24

Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you should get:

# 915resolution -l

Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel

#

Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a resolution option for sax2.

I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a "forest for the trees issue" and once you get it, you will see how simple it is.

Good luck again!

More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052

Ok David, I patched and 915resolution -l gave exactly above ouput ...i started sax2 to enter the mode but the drop-down to change the resolution and the color depth were disabled :o Anyways, i opened xorg.conf and wanted to change the screen section myself. i put 1680x1050 in every mode and put defaultdepth 24 - restarted x and it came back up all screwed-up :( How do I "connect" the xserver to the patched BIOS mode? Thanks for any further help! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ron Eggler wrote:

On Tuesday 11 September 2007 07:13:22 pm Ron Eggler wrote:

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So do this as root:

# 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24

Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you should get:

# 915resolution -l

Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel

#

Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a resolution option for sax2.

I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a "forest for the trees issue" and once you get it, you will see how simple it is.

Good luck again!

More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052 Ok David, I patched and 915resolution -l gave exactly above ouput ...i started sax2 to enter the mode but the drop-down to change the resolution and the color depth were disabled :o Anyways, i opened xorg.conf and wanted to change the screen section myself. i put 1680x1050 in every mode and put defaultdepth 24 - restarted x and it came back up all screwed-up :( How do I "connect" the xserver to the patched BIOS mode?

When I start Sax2 it actually says: "The configuration is Framebuffer based and your system does not support changes for resolution and/or color settings." - Huh? What's this, anyways, i created a new modline with gtf: desktop-reg:/home/reg # gtf 1680 1050 60 -x

# 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz Modeline "1680x1050_60.00" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync

But I'm not really sure if i should put it in there since it looks quite different to the other modes and i don't wanna break my monitor... my other lines look like this: Modeline "1280x1024" 141.82 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1070 Modeline "1280x1024" 130.17 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066 Modeline "1280x1024" 120.01 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1063 Modeline "1280x1024" 114.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 1024 1027 1034 1061 +HSync -VSync Modeline "1280x1024" 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1060

Not sure if should just add it on top.

Seems like i'm stuck again. Thanks for any further information!

I think this will do it for you: from: /915resolution/README.txt 6. My xorg.conf has the following screen definition : Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "device" Monitor "LCD" DefaultDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x800" EndSubsection EndSection 7. 915resolution must run before the X server is started. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (That means EVERY time and with [mode] [w] [h] [color]) So I don't need to do this every time I put it in my startup scripts. Where these scripts are very from distribution to distribution. I'm running SUSE 9.2, so I put the definition in /etc/init.d/boot.local: #! /bin/sh # # Copyright (c) 2002 SuSE Linux AG Nuernberg, Germany. All rights reserved. # # Author: Werner Fink , 1996 # Burchard Steinbild, 1996 # # /etc/init.d/boot.local # # script with local commands to be executed from init on system startup # # Here you should add things, that should happen directly after booting # before we're going to the first run level. # /usr/bin/915resolution 38 1280 800 8. Start up the X server Now I bet you have solved the puzzle.... and have a very good looking display -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 13 September 2007 05:17:22 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

Ron Eggler wrote:

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On Tuesday 11 September 2007 07:13:22 pm Ron Eggler wrote:

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So do this as root:

# 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24

Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you should get:

# 915resolution -l

Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel

#

Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a resolution option for sax2.

I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a "forest for the trees issue" and once you get it, you will see how simple it is.

Good luck again!

More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052

Ok David, I patched and 915resolution -l gave exactly above ouput ...i started sax2 to enter the mode but the drop-down to change the resolution and the color depth were disabled :o Anyways, i opened xorg.conf and wanted to change the screen section myself. i put 1680x1050 in every mode and put defaultdepth 24 - restarted x and it came back up all screwed-up :( How do I "connect" the xserver to the patched BIOS mode?

When I start Sax2 it actually says: "The configuration is Framebuffer based and your system does not support changes for resolution and/or color settings." - Huh? What's this, anyways, i created a new modline with gtf: desktop-reg:/home/reg # gtf 1680 1050 60 -x

# 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz Modeline "1680x1050_60.00" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync

But I'm not really sure if i should put it in there since it looks quite different to the other modes and i don't wanna break my monitor... my other lines look like this: Modeline "1280x1024" 141.82 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1070 Modeline "1280x1024" 130.17 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066 Modeline "1280x1024" 120.01 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1063 Modeline "1280x1024" 114.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 1024 1027 1034 1061 +HSync -VSync Modeline "1280x1024" 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1060

Not sure if should just add it on top.

Seems like i'm stuck again. Thanks for any further information!

I think this will do it for you:

from: /915resolution/README.txt

6. My xorg.conf has the following screen definition :

Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "device" Monitor "LCD" DefaultDepth 16

Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x800" EndSubsection EndSection

7. 915resolution must run before the X server is started. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (That means EVERY time and with [mode] [w] [h] [color])

So I don't need to do this every time I put it in my startup scripts. Where these scripts are very from distribution to distribution. I'm running SUSE 9.2, so I put the definition in /etc/init.d/boot.local:

#! /bin/sh # # Copyright (c) 2002 SuSE Linux AG Nuernberg, Germany. All rights reserved. # # Author: Werner Fink , 1996 # Burchard Steinbild, 1996 # # /etc/init.d/boot.local # # script with local commands to be executed from init on system startup # # Here you should add things, that should happen directly after booting # before we're going to the first run level. #

/usr/bin/915resolution 38 1280 800

8. Start up the X server

Now I bet you have solved the puzzle.... and have a very good looking display

Maaaaaaaaaan, I'm getting desperate. I feel as if i've tried everything....do i need to buy a Nvidia card or what? :( I've followed your instructions, I've followed the instructions on http://roland-lopez.blogspot.com/2007/03/auto915resolution-ubuntu-resolution... (I even changed the init path to init.d/rc2.d) I've tried different other things but my screen is stuck on 1280x1024. My xorg.conf now: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen[0]" Device "Device[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" DefaultDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubsection EndSection and 915resolution -l says my patched mode is mode 41 (1680x1050). But i don't know, if i start sax2 it tells me it couldn't support resolution change because i'd have a framebuffer card :o Section device in xorg.conf says: Section "Device" BoardName "Framebuffer Graphics" BusID "0:2:0" Driver "fbdev" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "ShadowFB" VendorName "VESA" EndSection Do i may need to change something there? Either I'm doing something totally wrong or my card (chip) just doesn't wanna do it... What is it? Thanks alot for the ongoing patience, i really appreciate evwerybody's help here to get my screen to display a 'good' resolution. Thanks! Ron -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David, Okay, what i did is: i commented out all the Modlines in section Mode in xorg.conf so i only have following uncommenrted: Modeline "1680x1050_60.00" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync i also patched mode 41 with 915 resolution to 1680x1050. I went in runlevel 3 checked patched mode with 915resolution and started x back up with "startx" (had to change to runlevel 5 before - of course) My KDE loaded back up as it used to with 1280 x 1024. So which log files do help us now further by telling us more details? Thanks! Ron On Friday 14 September 2007 02:57:06 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

Ron Eggler wrote:

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On Thursday 13 September 2007 05:17:22 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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Ron Eggler wrote:

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On Tuesday 11 September 2007 07:13:22 pm Ron Eggler wrote:

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So do this as root:

# 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24

Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you should get:

# 915resolution -l

Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel

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Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a resolution option for sax2.

I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a "forest for the trees issue" and once you get it, you will see how simple it is.

Good luck again!

More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052

Ok David, I patched and 915resolution -l gave exactly above ouput ...i started sax2 to enter the mode but the drop-down to change the resolution and the color depth were disabled :o Anyways, i opened xorg.conf and wanted to change the screen section myself. i put 1680x1050 in every mode and put defaultdepth 24 - restarted x and it came back up all screwed-up :( How do I "connect" the xserver to the patched BIOS mode?

When I start Sax2 it actually says: "The configuration is Framebuffer based and your system does not support changes for resolution and/or color settings." - Huh? What's this, anyways, i created a new modline with gtf: desktop-reg:/home/reg # gtf 1680 1050 60 -x

# 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz Modeline "1680x1050_60.00" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync

But I'm not really sure if i should put it in there since it looks quite different to the other modes and i don't wanna break my monitor... my other lines look like this: Modeline "1280x1024" 141.82 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1070 Modeline "1280x1024" 130.17 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066 Modeline "1280x1024" 120.01 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1063 Modeline "1280x1024" 114.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 1024 1027 1034 1061 +HSync -VSync Modeline "1280x1024" 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1060

Not sure if should just add it on top.

Seems like i'm stuck again. Thanks for any further information!

I think this will do it for you:

from: /915resolution/README.txt

6. My xorg.conf has the following screen definition :

Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "device" Monitor "LCD" DefaultDepth 16

Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x800" EndSubsection EndSection

7. 915resolution must run before the X server is started. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (That means EVERY time and with [mode] [w] [h] [color])

So I don't need to do this every time I put it in my startup scripts. Where these scripts are very from distribution to distribution. I'm running SUSE 9.2, so I put the definition in /etc/init.d/boot.local:

#! /bin/sh # # Copyright (c) 2002 SuSE Linux AG Nuernberg, Germany. All rights reserved. # # Author: Werner Fink , 1996 # Burchard Steinbild, 1996 # # /etc/init.d/boot.local # # script with local commands to be executed from init on system startup # # Here you should add things, that should happen directly after booting # before we're going to the first run level. #

/usr/bin/915resolution 38 1280 800

8. Start up the X server

Now I bet you have solved the puzzle.... and have a very good looking display

Maaaaaaaaaan,

I'm getting desperate. I feel as if i've tried everything....do i need to buy a Nvidia card or what? :( I've followed your instructions, I've followed the instructions on http://roland-lopez.blogspot.com/2007/03/auto915resolution-ubuntu-resolut ion-fix.html (I even changed the init path to init.d/rc2.d) I've tried different other things but my screen is stuck on 1280x1024. My xorg.conf now: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen[0]" Device "Device[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" DefaultDepth 16

Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubsection EndSection and 915resolution -l says my patched mode is mode 41 (1680x1050). But i don't know, if i start sax2 it tells me it couldn't support resolution change because i'd have a framebuffer card :o Section device in xorg.conf says: Section "Device" BoardName "Framebuffer Graphics" BusID "0:2:0" Driver "fbdev" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "ShadowFB" VendorName "VESA" EndSection Do i may need to change something there? Either I'm doing something totally wrong or my card (chip) just doesn't wanna do it... What is it? Thanks alot for the ongoing patience, i really appreciate evwerybody's help here to get my screen to display a 'good' resolution.

Thanks! Ron

Ron,

Let's forget sax2 for the moment. Try editing xorg.conf so 1680x1050 is the only resolution available. Then, As root, drop to runlevel 3 (telinit 3 from a console in KDE and drop back to the text login prompt.)

Run 915resolution and patch mode 41 again, check it and then issue "startx" to get back into kde (you will be root, but this is test right!)

This is really starting to shake my confidence in my ability to explain the obvious. Report back, it will be time to start picking trough log files next....

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On Friday 14 September 2007 08:36:51 pm Rajko M. wrote:

On Friday 14 September 2007 22:26, Ron Eggler wrote:

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David,

Okay, what i did is: i commented out all the Modlines in section Mode in xorg.conf so i only have following uncommenrted: Modeline "1680x1050_60.00" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync i also patched mode 41 with 915 resolution to 1680x1050. I went in runlevel 3 checked patched mode with 915resolution and started x back up with "startx" (had to change to runlevel 5 before - of course) My KDE loaded back up as it used to with 1280 x 1024. So which log files do help us now further by telling us more details?

Thanks! Ron

If X server can't find any applicable resolution it will pick one for you. The file that can give idea is /var/log/Xorg.0.log it stores last run of X server.

Wow, lots of information there - hard to find the useful tho. Anyways, i try to filter: On the bottom it says 1000 times "(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)" adding a new line all ~5 seconds... No idea why that is, i have acpid installed anyways, above these messages i see following: (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (**) FBDEV(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) FBDEV(0): RGB weight 565 (==) FBDEV(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) FBDEV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) FBDEV(0): hardware: VESA VGA (video memory: 7616kB) (**) FBDEV(0): Option "ShadowFB" (II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against framebuffer device... (II) FBDEV(0): mode "1680x1050" not found this is interesting...why not? i had patched it (915resolution still tells me mode 41 would be 1680x1050) - May it have a connnection with the framebuffer device? :o (II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against monitor... (--) FBDEV(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280) (**) FBDEV(0): Built-in mode "current": 131.1 MHz, 80.3 kHz, 76.6 Hz (II) FBDEV(0): Modeline "current" 131.09 1280 1312 1472 1632 1024 1028 1032 1048 -hsync -vsync -csync (**) FBDEV(0): Display dimensions: (474, 296) mm (**) FBDEV(0): DPI set to (68, 87) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3 (**) FBDEV(0): using shadow framebuffer (II) Loading sub module "shadow" (II) LoadModule: "shadow" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libshadow.so (II) Module shadow: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.99.902, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3 (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0 0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B] ... ... ... [38] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument (==) FBDEV(0): Backing store disabled (==) RandR enabled (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension XAccessControlExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (EE) AIGLX: DRI module not loaded (II) Loading local sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so (II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0 (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard[0]: Core Keyboard (**) Option "Protocol" "Standard" (**) Keyboard[0]: Protocol: Standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) Keyboard[0]: XkbRules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104" (**) Keyboard[0]: XkbModel: "pc104" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Keyboard[0]: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Keyboard[0]: CustomKeycodes disabled (**) Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2" (**) Mouse[1]: Device: "/dev/input/mice" (**) Mouse[1]: Protocol: "explorerps/2" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse[1]: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (**) Option "Buttons" "5" (==) Mouse[1]: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse[1]: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse[1]: Buttons: 9 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse[1]" (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard[0]" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) Mouse[1]: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, removing from list! Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) ... ... ... Thanks for any further help! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2007/09/15 12:27 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed:

Running startx and being in runlevel 5 are incompatible.

Hardly. I do it frequently. From runlevel 5 I login to one user from KDM and 1600x1200, then on some VC I login as another user and do 'startx -- :1' with a custom/different xorg configuration file to 2048x1536 or 1024x768 or whatever. -- "It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape." Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 15 September 2007 06:17:49 am Carlos E. R. wrote: [snip] An update on this issue: I got a GeForce 7300 GT from ebay with which I'm able to display the desired resolution with no problem, just download and install the nvidia driver. it's so easy. So i wasn't able to get 1680x1050 out of my i965G chipset. But anyways, was worth playin around :) Thanks for everybody's help! Have a nice weekend everybody! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 13 October 2007 17:20:59 JRR wrote:

Ron Eggler wrote:

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On Saturday 15 September 2007 06:17:49 am Carlos E. R. wrote: [snip] An update on this issue: I got a GeForce 7300 GT from ebay with which I'm able to display the desired resolution with no problem, just download and install the nvidia driver. it's so easy. So i wasn't able to get 1680x1050 out of my i965G chipset. But anyways, was worth playin around :) Thanks for everybody's help! Have a nice weekend everybody!

Why do you want 1680x1050 ??? Won't this chipset do 1600x1200 or 1600x1280 ?? Jrr

If you have a 16x10 screen, you will not be interested in 4x3 or 5x4 resolution, you will want to have 16x10 Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2007/09/09 10:41 (GMT-0400) Kenneth Schneider apparently typed:

You also need to supply a line in the Section "Modes" area as well.

It's been my experience that recent versions of xorg function fine without modes defined in xorg.conf. In all mine I've been commenting away the UseModes line, and removing all entries from Section "Modes", so far with no apparent ill effects on any recent version of SUSE, or any other Linux. I run resolutions from 2048x1536 on down on CRT displays, so have no idea if widescreen LCDs like 1680x1050 behave differently. -- "It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape." Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 16:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

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You also need to supply a line in the Section "Modes" area as well. It's been my experience that recent versions of xorg function fine without modes defined in xorg.conf. In all mine I've been commenting away the

It can autodiscover the proper settings. At least, what the card says it is proper.

I think you can see them lines in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log searching for "Printing DDC gathered Modelines:".

When we had this same issue a few months ago, one of the group said that Xorg is correctly written to get the parameters from the chipset itself. Some chipsets do not correctly report their options, so Xorg.conf cannot determine the true required parameters. For Intel chipsets (among the guilty ones) the 855resolution module was written, then modified to get the 915resolution module. Although the discussion was prompted by another list member, I was struggling with this problem at the time (I have a 945G chipset), and the discussion helped me get my 1280X800 laptop LCD set up properly. Search the archives for "915resolution". Somewhere in there is a link to a 915resolution web site that should clear things up for you. Ah, here it is: http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ Hope this helps. John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 09 September 2007 00:12, steve wrote:

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If anybody can offer any suggestions on getting this thing to work, I'd appreciate it. Please mention any other libraries you think I might need, I believe I have all the necessary ones but it can't hurt to check.

The zen players use mtp media transport protocol not usb mass storage.

Steve, transport protocol is common way for 2 devices to talk. While error can be in transport, it also can be that gnomad2 can't access device that should receive data. There was one such case that is solved, but to make sure I asked you to run gnomad2 as root user, which can be accomplished by: Press Alt-F2 , in Command field enter gnomad2, click on Options, check Run as different user, enter root as Username, enter root password as Password, click on Run. See if gnomad2 can find your device.

I never had luck using it in any distro. as far as I can tell the only software that works is what comes with the player for windows. had good luck with ipods, any rca lyra, archos is what I am using today.

Sincerely, if you ask a question and than don't follow given instructions, than that is a part of the problem. It is not a problem if you don't know what means 'run as root', problem is not to ask what that means, and insted of question just to slide into rant about bad luck with distros. When Creative find compelling reasons to write drivers and applications that will enable Linux users to use their devices than it will be as effortless a it is in Windows. Until such time road is sometimes bumpy, but reward at the end is for the most of Linux users worth to go ahead. They keep what is better in Linux and get their toys working. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org