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Seamonkey has done that too, except they didn't prohibit the removal of their default links. Since I figured I *might* find some of them useful (like mozdev.org)...i just created another "folder" in the bookmarks, and moved them all into that.

Why am I the only one not seeing this?

It added a "Most Visited" from within another menu, everything else I have just deleted since... the Most Visited is proving pretty useful.

The new bookmarks and location bar is brilliant once you realize how it works. I love it.. absolutely hate using the old one now. I had no problems sorting things the way I wanted... Most Visited gets used a lot (I also find it pretty useful). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin wrote:

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I hate it when any browser company thinks they know what I want in my bookmarks more than I do. The new firefox add reams of crap to your bookmarks plus new "Bookmarks Toolbar" you can't delete from "organize bookmarks". Shame on you Mozilla. Now I have to go figure out where to delete that obtrusive toolbar.

Something not quite right here, David, because you can remove the Bookmarks Toolbar by removing it within the View option, and you can remove any bookmark by opening Bookmarks (NOT Manage Bookmarks) and Delete it by right-clicking on the name and then Delete.

Ciao.

Oh no Basil, that's the way it "used to" work. No unchecking the toolbar only removes it duplication as a "toolbar" of menus under your normal menu bar. But that is where the fun starts... I emptied all of the garbage from the two new obtrusive bars and I was able to delete one of them, but then you find the "grayed out" delete option for the toolbar submenu confirming it cannot be deleted. No problem, I'll just go into bookmarks.html and do it there -- Nope the abusive toolbars aren't in there, but there is a new xml part of the bookmark scheme that looks like a likely culprit. Oh well, sigh, the quest confinues. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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No problem, I'll just go into bookmarks.html and do it there The bookmarks (and history) in Firefox 3 are stored in places.sqlite now. Hummm... That will make it more difficult to process the bookmarks

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No problem, I'll just go into bookmarks.html and do it there The bookmarks (and history) in Firefox 3 are stored in places.sqlite now. Hummm... That will make it more difficult to process the bookmarks

Gilles Durys wrote: through bk2site, then. Pity. Yes I agree, it still can be exported manually to bookmarks.html though. There are also daily backups in JSON format. I'm currently trying to use

Philippe Andersson wrote: these to have my bookmarks on my site like I did with bookmarks.html. That's good to know. Thanks for the tip.

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Hummm... That will make it more difficult to process the bookmarks through bk2site, then. Pity.

Don't know what "process the bookmarks through bk2site" means, but http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ might now be relevant to that task and/or other "bookmark" tweaks.

FWIW, if you also use SeaMonkey and use only it for adding new bookmarks, you can periodically delete places.sqlite and copy your latest SM bookmarks.html file to your FF profile (with FF closed). On next FF startup it will import bookmarks.html into a new places.sqlite.

I wonder what in the heck was wrong with the good old bookmarks.html storage? What of the old mantra, "If it's not broken DON'T fix it?" I am sure the reason has to do with being able to inject more ads by making it more difficult to remove the stuff that will no doubt be forced on you through a bookmark folder that is guaranteed to be in every ff browser. Pity. Secondly, why not at least provide an option to keep the bookmarks in html or sqlite? I guess sqlite has benefits for users/organizations with 1000's of bookmarks. I doubt seriously there is any performance benefit for users with 20-50 bookmarks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On 19.06.2008 at 16:58, "David C. Rankin" I wonder what in the heck was wrong with the good old bookmarks.html storage? What of the old mantra, "If it's not broken DON'T fix it?" I am sure the reason has to do with being able to inject more ads by making it more difficult to remove the stuff that will no doubt be forced on you through a bookmark folder that is guaranteed to be in every ff browser. Pity.

Secondly, why not at least provide an option to keep the bookmarks in html or sqlite? I guess sqlite has benefits for users/organizations with 1000's of bookmarks. I doubt seriously there is any performance benefit for users with

20-50 bookmarks.

i'm sure there can be found plenty of reasons why to use SQLite against a flat HTML file. Like the auotmatic 'search' in it whenever you type something in the address bar. It will try to 'guess' what of your last visited and/or bookmarked sites you might want to visit. Try to implement something like this in a flat plain text file without good search capabilities.

And there are plenty of tools out there to open/read/modify a SQLite database directly.. it's not, that the format is not well known and documented.

Stop FUD please!

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Dominique, I don't know you, but I can assure you the posts are not fud. I appreciate your reply, however your last comment was unnecessary. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

For those of you who think change is bad: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227 The new location bar and bookmarks are fine - and this is coming from someone who has been accused in the past of being a Luddite... they work, and once you stop thinking change is bad and look at how it works, it turns out to be a pretty good change in how the location bar and bookmarks work. For the rest of us, the one click bookmarking is a godsend, and being able to quickly and easily search for previously visited sites by typing a couple of character or by tagging our fav sites with keywords is a major step forward in usability. Of you don't like it.. use FireFox 2. No one is forcing you to use 3.0. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 10:07 +0200, Gilles Durys wrote:

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Any other little surprises in store/ I might have to directly hack some config files and it would be nice to be able to look them up online to speed the search for a particular feature. One thing will it cohabitate with 2.0.0.xx without screwing up plugins?? CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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That's great. I share the bookmarks file between Seamonkey and Firefox. I guess this will break that.

True for 2-way, but if you study my upthread post you'll see all is not yet lost. -- "Where were you when I laid the earth's foudation?" Matthew 7:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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True for 2-way, but if you study my upthread post you'll see all is not yet lost.

But just remember if you delete the places.sqlite file to have it rebuild to import your links, be sure to delete the bookmarks.html as well or you will end up with 2 copies when you import your saved favorites. It's not smart enough to discard duplicates.

No idea what you mean. I: 1-delete places.sqlite 2-replace bookmarks.html file in FF3 profile dir with that from SM 3-use FF3 Importing is automatic in FF3 when a bookmarks.html exists and no places.sqlite exists. -- "Where were you when I laid the earth's foudation?" Matthew 7:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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That's great. I share the bookmarks file between Seamonkey and Firefox. I guess this will break that.

True for 2-way, but if you study my upthread post you'll see all is not yet lost.

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But just remember if you delete the places.sqlite file to have it rebuild to import your links, be sure to delete the bookmarks.html as well or you will end up with 2 copies when you import your saved favorites. It's not smart enough to discard duplicates.

use AWK to scan the file, and remove the 2nd occurance of any link. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org