Peter Flodin writes:

On 15/11/05, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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So, let's open a competition: Send your proposals for a theme together with some examples for codenames and how they can be visualized.

'Winston Churchill sent a note to the British Chiefs of Staff cautioning them against giving frivolous codenames to actions involving deadly peril. No wife or mother, he said, wanted to remember that her husband or son had died in an operation called "Bunnyhug" or "Ballyhoo".'

that was nearly on topic....

;-) I'd like to have interesting codenames - once that we all can be proud of. Do you want to look with me through the list and filter out the 5 ones so that Churchill wouldn't not need to complain ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Allen wrote:

I don't want to make a huge mail, but these are nice. Theya re a mix of some places, some things. Heh, I think they are good, and I'm sure someone else may agree.

They're fine - but what's your reasoning?

Sehnsucht = Desire

Actually, "longing" would be more correct. /Per Jessen, Zürich

On Sunday 20 November 2005 23:35, Allen wrote:

Lol I can't believe I made that mistake.It's not only more correct, my answer wasn't even proper. Sehnsucht ist longing. I always confuse it with desire. Thanks Rammstein lol.

Heh, I will have to relearn the meaning :-) Duncan

Hi, On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:

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Sehnsucht = Desire

Rammstein!

You mean: Hitler, "third reich"? You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

Hi, On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Monday 21 November 2005 23:38, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

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On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:

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Sehnsucht = Desire

Rammstein!

You mean: Hitler, "third reich"?

No, as I am learning German, I recognized the word as the name of an album of the german band. Not sure what are you talking about, and I prefer to not know it.

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You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill.

No comments.

Ok. Your silence is accepted. The grounding matter is 60 years before, and Germany has "learned" by constitution (provoced by the allieds after second world war) and - much better, much more "truly" - by at least 35 years of government actions (since Willy Brandt). Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

Hi, On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Allen wrote:

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 11:38:22PM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

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On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:

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Sehnsucht = Desire

Rammstein!

You mean: Hitler, "third reich"? You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill.

The other guy may not want to know what you're talking about here but I do. Sehnsucht has nothing to do with Hitler, neither does Rammstein.

If I said Bitburg, OK, but I didn't. Ich hab nicht gezagt.

OK, I see that not all of us have mentioned all aspects here, Dont't let us flame now, but revert to the center of OpenSUSE, and at least not prefer NAZI names now. This is where the child meets the old man, and not vice versa. It is crucial if the childs will insist. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Tuesday 22 November 2005 00:53, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

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OK, I see that not all of us have mentioned all aspects here, Dont't let us flame now, but revert to the center of OpenSUSE, and at least not prefer NAZI names now. This is where the child meets the old man, and not vice versa. It is crucial if the childs will insist.

The word was never proposed as a codename. It was a comment about the sehensucht codename proposal, which most of the people understood.

Even if you missunderstood of the word has some special meaning for you, you can say it very politely and without adding adjectives to people.

Thanks. Duncan

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On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 03:03:44AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

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On Tuesday 22 November 2005 00:53, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

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OK, I see that not all of us have mentioned all aspects here, Dont't let us flame now, but revert to the center of OpenSUSE, and at least not prefer NAZI names now. This is where the child meets the old man, and not vice versa. It is crucial if the childs will insist.

The word was never proposed as a codename. It was a comment about the sehensucht codename proposal, which most of the people understood.

Even if you missunderstood of the word has some special meaning for you, you can say it very politely and without adding adjectives to people.

Don't fool yourself, please.

Equalling "sehnsucht" in the sense mentioned here is nazi behaviour in my mind. Show me your education if you do not see the evidence here, and maybe I'll forgive you your ignorance. But if not, I will struggle to see your blood spreading my floor (purely mentally, if you know to differ).

What in the HELL are you talking about? Sehnsucht isn't a Nazi word it means longing. Like, Longing for something. Like if I was longing for a beer I would say: Ich sehnsucht fur verum. Well, I'd say Verum because I like Warsteiner premium verum. What the crap does sehnsucht have to do with Nazi Germany? You're talking like you're wigged out on LSD and somehow confusing Sehnsucht with Hitler. And if you want to get technical, Hitler wasn't his real last name. The names I said the code name could be were mostly in German and one was Russian. I'd LOVE to hear how you have somehow managed to think Sehnsucht means anything Nazi. You possibly could have miss read Sehnsucht for Seig Heil, but that's a HUGE difference. So could you please explain how you somehow mixed up what I said for some Nazi crap? -Allen.

Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

^ You seem to live in German, you should know better than I do what Sehnsucht is as I have to rely on a teacher and some books to learn the language.

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On Tuesday 22 November 2005 21:26, Allen wrote:

What in the HELL are you talking about? Sehnsucht isn't a Nazi word it means longing.

I think Eberhard fell victim of a common misinterpretation of Godwin's Law and just wanted to end this OT-thread (Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies, see http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/).

Like, Longing for something. Like if I was longing for a beer I would say:

Ich sehnsucht fur verum. Well, I'd say Verum because I like Warsteiner premium verum.

That would be: "Ich sehne mich nach einem Verum", as the word Sehnsucht does not exist as a verb. <\nitpicking> -- Oliver Koch Systems Administrator Institute of Computational Mathematics Altenbergerstr. 69 Johannes Kepler University Linz 4040 Linz, Austria oliver.koch@numa.uni-linz.ac.at Tel. +43 70 2468 9166

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 08:56:11AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Oliver Koch wrote:

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On Tuesday 22 November 2005 21:26, Allen wrote:

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What in the HELL are you talking about? Sehnsucht isn't a Nazi word it means longing.

I think Eberhard fell victim of a common misinterpretation of Godwin's Law and just wanted to end this OT-thread (Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies, see http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/).

WTF?

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Like, Longing for something. Like if I was longing for a beer I would say:

Ich sehnsucht fur verum. Well, I'd say Verum because I like Warsteiner premium verum.

That would be: "Ich sehne mich nach einem Verum", as the word Sehnsucht does not exist as a verb. <\nitpicking>

You can nit pick, I don't know it well enough to say some things properly.

Stop this stupid thread now. We were not talking about human desire or sehnsucht, but about NAZI music and symbols.

No, WE were talking about longing / Desire. YOU were talking about Nazi shit. And for the record, Rammstein aren't Nazi, and I don't know what orifice you pulled the "symbols" from. -Allen / Blut

Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

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On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 09:29:14AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Allen wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 08:56:11AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Oliver Koch wrote:

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On Tuesday 22 November 2005 21:26, Allen wrote:

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What in the HELL are you talking about? Sehnsucht isn't a Nazi word it means longing.

I think Eberhard fell victim of a common misinterpretation of Godwin's Law and just wanted to end this OT-thread (Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies, see http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/).

WTF?

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Like, Longing for something. Like if I was longing for a beer I would say:

Ich sehnsucht fur verum. Well, I'd say Verum because I like Warsteiner premium verum.

That would be: "Ich sehne mich nach einem Verum", as the word Sehnsucht does not exist as a verb. <\nitpicking>

You can nit pick, I don't know it well enough to say some things properly.

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Stop this stupid thread now. We were not talking about human desire or sehnsucht, but about NAZI music and symbols.

No, WE were talking about longing / Desire. YOU were talking about Nazi shit. And for the record, Rammstein aren't Nazi, and I don't know what orifice you pulled the "symbols" from.

Totally crazy. Stop this now!

OK, it's almost 4 AM, I haven't been to bed, and you can't answer a simple question about what the HELL you are on about. I'm going to try and make this more easy to understand: I am Allen, I said Sehnsucht in a post. Sehnsucht means longing. It has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING Nazi, but you replied calling me something to that effect. I replied dragging this even MORE off topic asking what you were talking about. You replied back, with what looked like gibberish. I reply, again, like an idiot, asking WTF you're talking about again. And now, you've replied, AGAIN, with ANOTHER post that explains NOTHING. Now, I'm going to ask ONE more time, OK? Where in the crap, did you get the nazi crap you keep talking about, and how the hell did you take my suggestons, drag them all off topic, into some big stipid waste of space discussion, about something I never even implied? And because you implied Rammstein as being Nazi, READ: http://herzeleid.com/en/faq/band#faq4 I don't care if you reply to me off list, but damn it I'm tired and you are REALLY hard to understand. -Allen

Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

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Hi, could you please continue the Rammstein discussion off-list? Thank you. Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh@suse.de) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:58:38 +0100 Andreas Jaeger wrote: [...]

Please add it to the page I referenced together with all the other stuff... OK, Thank you. The wiki page was updated. # I thought that I had to make Novell Account newly. Because the account # made for the access to bugzilla was effective, I used it.

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On 07/12/05, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

We currently have a problem with getting the vote module working on www.opensuse.org, therefore I have not started with the voting. I accept late additions to the page.

Hope we can soon vote on this, sorry for the delay,

Wikipedia has survived using voting similar to the page http://www.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_&_SUSE_Linux_confusion (admittedly large number of votes would be difficult, but I somehow doubt that to be an issue in this case). Of course we can wait some more if we get a real voting system, we are very patient around here :-) Will somebody maybe update the roadmap, those October things looked exciting in August when it was labelled September. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin.