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David C. Rankin

13 Nov 2008 13 Nov '08

07:38

List, I installed opera just to check the browser out. Heck it is an integrated browser and mail package all in one. Interface is clean, fast, and the widgets are very handy. It does some pretty cool stuff with the Filters, Attachments and Mailing Lists folders under the mail widget. Who knew... Compose editor is clean and intuitive. Setup was a breeze. I'll have to get used to ctrl+m for new message. How does it know I'm subscribed to all the opensuse, samba, squirrelmail, vbox, etc.. Mailing Lists? I guess it filters on the headers and is smart enough to know what a mailing list is. The attachment identification and collection into the separate folder is really handy as well. I haven't seen that one before, but I often wanted something like that. Nicely done. (the default font configuration could use some work, Bitstream 16 pt. and Times New Roman??) All in all, first impressions are very good. I'd never seen it before, and within about 10 minutes, I had it configured the way I wanted it, 3 mail accounts created and about 30,000 headers imported. I still can't figure out how to rearrange the mail list column order, but that's for another day. The only hiccup was import of account setting from thunderbird's prefs.js. It found my main pop3 account with suddenlink, but failed to import any of my imap or gmail accounts. No big deal, once it had the pop3 account, all the mail options were right there. Now we will see if it sends mail too, hmm.. (ctrl+shift+s) we'll have to work on that one.. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Lee Ross

13 Nov 13 Nov

09:30

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:38:20 -0900, David C. Rankin wrote:

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List,

I installed opera just to check the browser out. Heck it is an integrated browser and mail package all in one.

David, It's always nice to see someone new discover Opera. I've been using Opera since Ver. 5 on Windows 95. As soon as they came out with a linux platform I migrated to Linux and never looked back. I use OpenSuse and whatever version of Opera they offer however, I have updated from the Opera site in the past. Once you get used to the way Opera filters messages you'll find you can function at almost any level with the standard filters. One thing to remember.....Opera has only one file to retain all emails that are not deleted and that file is called, 'received'. Everything else is just an access point to the received file. Opera is one of the most configurable browser/email packages available. There's something for everyone if you dig around in all the configurations long enough. Opera is also completely keyboard functional. A little mousing and a few keyboard shortcuts keep me happy. I think you'll find the contacts list is very useful. Just click on the contact name to see all messages sent or received from that contact. Makes it easy to keep track of several conversations about different subjects and you can always easily review what Aunt Harriet said in her last message to you. If you are reading an email from some one you want to put on your contact list, press the 'a' key and a window will pop up, preconfigured as a contact. Press enter and you have a contact added to your list. There are other ways to add contacts but that one is the easiest in most cases. Enjoy, -- Lee Ross Anchorage, Ak -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

JB2

15:51

On 13 November 08, David C. Rankin wrote:

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List,

I installed opera just to check the browser out. Heck it is an integrated browser and mail package all in one. Interface is clean, fast, and the widgets are very handy. It does some pretty cool stuff with the Filters, Attachments and Mailing Lists folders under the mail widget. Who knew... Compose editor is clean and intuitive. Setup was a breeze.

<snip more praise> I too thoroughly enjoy Opera as a browser and mail client. I've also been using it for quite some time (I think I was using it on W98 also in '99 to '00 when I switched to Linux). Good to hear you like it, spread the word more! John -- Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen

20:27

David C. Rankin wrote:

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List,

I installed opera just to check the browser out. How does it know I'm subscribed to all the opensuse, samba, squirrelmail, vbox, etc.. Mailing Lists? I guess it filters on the headers and is smart enough to know what a mailing list is.

So does Kmail and several other mail handlers.

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Nicely done. (

I like the browser but find the mail client so un-intuitive that I abandoned it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

21:53

On Wednesday 12 November 2008 11:38:20 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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All in all, first impressions are very good. I'd never seen it before,

Nice to see you like it. I've tried - honestly - to like Opera for several years now. I can't stand the GTK+ look/feel of Firefox and Opera is built with Qt. However, it just never quite works right either on Wintendo or Linux. For example, I've yet to be able to get it to do Flash or MPlayer in openSUSE nor can I do the same in XP/Vista. For me, it is relagated to my browser I use when I'm connecting through my personal proxy while at work. :P -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com Clean out a corner of your mind and creativity will instantly fill it. - Dee Hock -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

14 Nov 14 Nov

00:46

Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Wednesday 12 November 2008 11:38:20 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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All in all, first impressions are very good. I'd never seen it before,

Nice to see you like it.

I've tried - honestly - to like Opera for several years now. I can't stand the GTK+ look/feel of Firefox and Opera is built with Qt. However, it just never quite works right either on Wintendo or Linux. For example, I've yet to be able to get it to do Flash or MPlayer in openSUSE nor can I do the same in XP/Vista.

Well, that's OK, I still can't get firefox to do java on 11.0 x86_64 without installing the 32-bit version. Konqueror handles the weather loops just fine. Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes I'll check Beta 5, but I don't hold out any great hope. While the mail part of Opera isn't quite what thunderbird is, the lightweight feel and performance of the browser makes is a handy alternative to firefox and Konqueror. Firefox feels like you are driving a Sherman Tank, and Konqueror has such quirks as not even being able to handle the FCKeditor built into a number of sites. I like the browser. I'm still evaluating the SpeedDial page in Opera. At first glance, I really like that too. The thumbnail approach to your top-ten sites or so is pretty cool. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. | Rankin Law Firm, PLLC | Countdown for openSuSE 11.1 510 Ochiltree Street | http://counter.opensuse.org/11.1/small Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 | Telephone: (936) 715-9333 | openSoftware und SystemEntwicklung Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 | http://www.opensuse.org/ www.rankinlawfirm.com | -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

01:15

* David C. Rankin [11-13-08 19:48]:

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Well, that's OK, I still can't get firefox to do java on 11.0 x86_64 without installing the 32-bit version. Konqueror handles the weather loops just fine.

Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

Hummm, see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/weather.map.jpg openSUSE 10.1 x86_64 MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.14-3.1 java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_15-0.1 java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_15-0.1 but, 32bit firefox and java :^) your comment indicates that no firefox can handle ? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

01:56

On Thursday 13 November 2008 05:15:24 pm Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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but, 32bit firefox and java :^) your comment indicates that no firefox can handle ?

I presume he meant that 32-bit works. http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=vtx&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com Clean out a corner of your mind and creativity will instantly fill it. - Dee Hock -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

01:54

On Thursday 13 November 2008 04:46:50 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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I've tried - honestly - to like Opera for several years now. I can't stand the GTK+ look/feel of Firefox and Opera is built with Qt. However, it just never quite works right either on Wintendo or Linux. For example, I've yet to be able to get it to do Flash or MPlayer in openSUSE nor can I do the same in XP/Vista.

        Well, that's OK, I still can't get firefox to do java on 11.0 x86_64 without installing the 32-bit version. Konqueror handles the weather loops just fine.

        Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loo p=yes

        I'll check Beta 5, but I don't hold out any great hope.

That's kind of cool. You actually have weather in your part of the world. (The Los Angeles area has zero activity on the map.) So it doesn't work in 64-bit firefox or doesn't work in firefox at all? -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com Clean out a corner of your mind and creativity will instantly fill it. - Dee Hock -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

07:35

Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Thursday 13 November 2008 04:46:50 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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I've tried - honestly - to like Opera for several years now. I can't stand the GTK+ look/feel of Firefox and Opera is built with Qt. However, it just never quite works right either on Wintendo or Linux. For example, I've yet to be able to get it to do Flash or MPlayer in openSUSE nor can I do the same in XP/Vista. Well, that's OK, I still can't get firefox to do java on 11.0 x86_64 without installing the 32-bit version. Konqueror handles the weather loops just fine.

Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loo p=yes

I'll check Beta 5, but I don't hold out any great hope.

That's kind of cool. You actually have weather in your part of the world. (The Los Angeles area has zero activity on the map.)

So it doesn't work in 64-bit firefox or doesn't work in firefox at all?

The radar loop works fine in the 32-bit version. I have a separate 32-bit firefox install on my system in /usr/local just for that reason. It is the x86-64 version of firefox that for reasons I still don't fully understand can't display that page. I was surprised that Opera couldn't handle it as well. Hopefully we will get that working in 11.1. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. | Rankin Law Firm, PLLC | Countdown for openSuSE 11.1 510 Ochiltree Street | http://counter.opensuse.org/11.1/small Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 | Telephone: (936) 715-9333 | openSoftware und SystemEntwicklung Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 | http://www.opensuse.org/ www.rankinlawfirm.com | -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

G T Smith

11:17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kai Ponte wrote:

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I'll check Beta 5, but I don't hold out any great hope.

That's kind of cool. You actually have weather in your part of the world. (The Los Angeles area has zero activity on the map.)

So it doesn't work in 64-bit firefox or doesn't work in firefox at all?

As an aside for the UK, there is a handy little FireFox plugin from the UK Met office. Works well on Doze and Linux versions.... http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/gadgets/index.html We do have rather a lot weather around here, and some to spare if anyone one wants any :-) - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkdXkcACgkQasN0sSnLmgJ81gCguVpFRYb8CtrHkrDKdAdeIoat WskAoKCRbbPjeoW2JKwonpnkhpR047GM =OOyJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

14:58

On Friday 14 November 2008 03:17:27 am G T Smith wrote:

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That's kind of cool. You actually have weather in your part of the world. (The Los Angeles area has zero activity on the map.)

So it doesn't work in 64-bit firefox or doesn't work in firefox at all?

As an aside for the UK, there is a handy little FireFox plugin from the UK Met office. Works well on Doze and Linux versions....

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/gadgets/index.html

Hey, that's nice. Your government allows for Firefox plugins. Our government knows nothing of Firefox.

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We do have rather a lot weather around here, and some to spare if anyone one wants any

Nah - it was freezing outside when I went for my morning walk at 5:00. I had to wear a jacket instead of just a t-shirt and shorts. It is currently 57.9F according to my handy-dandy KWeather taskbar thingy. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com Clean out a corner of your mind and creativity will instantly fill it. - Dee Hock -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Bob S

03:47

On Thursday 13 November 2008 07:46:50 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Wednesday 12 November 2008 11:38:20 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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All in all, first impressions are very good. I'd never seen it before,

Nice to see you like it.

I've tried - honestly - to like Opera for several years now. I can't stand the GTK+ look/feel of Firefox and Opera is built with Qt. However, it just never quite works right either on Wintendo or Linux. For example, I've yet to be able to get it to do Flash or MPlayer in openSUSE nor can I do the same in XP/Vista.

Well, that's OK, I still can't get firefox to do java on 11.0 x86_64 without installing the 32-bit version. Konqueror handles the weather loops just fine.

Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loo p=yes

Why not David? My Firefox 3.0.3 64bit displays nicely on 10.3 Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

07:43

Bob S wrote:

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On Thursday 13 November 2008 07:46:50 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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Kai Ponte wrote:

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On Wednesday 12 November 2008 11:38:20 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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All in all, first impressions are very good. I'd never seen it before, Nice to see you like it.

I've tried - honestly - to like Opera for several years now. I can't stand the GTK+ look/feel of Firefox and Opera is built with Qt. However, it just never quite works right either on Wintendo or Linux. For example, I've yet to be able to get it to do Flash or MPlayer in openSUSE nor can I do the same in XP/Vista. Well, that's OK, I still can't get firefox to do java on 11.0 x86_64 without installing the 32-bit version. Konqueror handles the weather loops just fine.

Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loo p=yes

Why not David? My Firefox 3.0.3 64bit displays nicely on 10.3

Bob S

Bob, Thanks, I'll have to check the version on 10.3, but it should be the latest. I just checked and nogo on my 10.3 x86-64 :( http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/ff103-no_radar_here.jpg -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. | Rankin Law Firm, PLLC | Countdown for openSuSE 11.1 510 Ochiltree Street | http://counter.opensuse.org/11.1/small Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 | Telephone: (936) 715-9333 | openSoftware und SystemEntwicklung Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 | http://www.opensuse.org/ www.rankinlawfirm.com | -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dotan Cohen

16:50

2008/11/14 David C. Rankin :

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Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

Firefox 3.0.2 on Kubuntu 8.04 opened that page and displayed it, with the javascript weather radar simulation. It froze firefox for a few seconds, then it unfroze and works fine. Note that I have ~30 tabs open right now, so the freezing is expected on a heavy page. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

Dave Howorth

16:59

Dotan Cohen wrote:

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2008/11/14 David C. Rankin :

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Neither Firefox or Opera can handle the following javascript applet:

the javascript weather radar simulation.

OK, enough is enough :) It's a Java applet, not Javascript. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ben Kevan

05:25

On Wednesday 12 November 2008 11:38:20 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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List,

I installed opera just to check the browser out. Heck it is an integrated browser and mail package all in one. Interface is clean, fast, and the widgets are very handy. It does some pretty cool stuff with the Filters, Attachments and Mailing Lists folders under the mail widget. Who knew... Compose editor is clean and intuitive. Setup was a breeze. I'll have to get used to ctrl+m for new message.

How does it know I'm subscribed to all the opensuse, samba, squirrelmail, vbox, etc.. Mailing Lists? I guess it filters on the headers and is smart enough to know what a mailing list is. The attachment identification and collection into the separate folder is really handy as well. I haven't seen that one before, but I often wanted something like that.

Nicely done. (the default font configuration could use some work, Bitstream 16 pt. and Times New Roman??) All in all, first impressions are very good. I'd never seen it before, and within about 10 minutes, I had it configured the way I wanted it, 3 mail accounts created and about 30,000 headers imported. I still can't figure out how to rearrange the mail list column order, but that's for another day. The only hiccup was import of account setting from thunderbird's prefs.js. It found my main pop3 account with suddenlink, but failed to import any of my imap or gmail accounts. No big deal, once it had the pop3 account, all the mail options were right there.

Now we will see if it sends mail too, hmm.. (ctrl+shift+s) we'll have to work on that one..

Nice to see another Opera convert. I use opera for mail (along with Kmail, sometimes I can't decide how the delete option in opera mail works with gmail imap.. i'll test more). Also, the built in irc is awesome. The way it renders everything is great (the things it doesn't render are things that aren't coded correctly). Adding some plugins to match "firefox" plugins would be my only suggestion. A few things that I would love to work with it that doesn't are: sprintpcs.com google notebook livelink mplayer, java and flash all work flawless for me in 9.62 I turned from a firefox convert to an opera fan boy.. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Pavol Rusnak

10:32

David C. Rankin wrote:

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Nicely done. (the default font configuration could use some work, Bitstream 16 pt. and Times New Roman??)

Hi! I'm opera maintainer for SUSE. How exactly would you like to change font settings? -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

16:16

Pavol Rusnak wrote:

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David C. Rankin wrote:

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Nicely done. (the default font configuration could use some work, Bitstream 16 pt. and Times New Roman??)

Hi! I'm opera maintainer for SUSE. How exactly would you like to change font settings?

Pavol, Thank you for you post. I have looked at the fonts available for the default openSuSE install and these are the fonts that work well, and the fonts available to everyone who installs openSuSE. (I'm not sure if the fonts impact and comic sans are defaults, but I think they are) Currently, the default Opera install uses fonts not found on openSuSE by default. (Arial and Times New Roman) The font that looks/renders the best for sans, serif and monotype is DejaVu which is a default on openSuSE. When you look at the preferences: Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Fonts for some reason you see 2 (two) sets of DejaVu fonts (1) DejaVu [unknown] and (2) DejaVu [misc]. You can't use the [misc] fonts, they look terrible. You must use the DejaVu [unknown] font, that renders perfectly. The fonts I have chosen that give Opera the cleanest, best looking interface are: Type Font Size E-mail Compose DejaVu Sans [unknown] 12 E-mail Display DejaVu Sans [unknown] 12 Browser menus DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Browser toolbars DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Browser dialogs DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Browser panels DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Browser tooltips DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Web page normal text DejaVu Sans [unknown] 13 Web page <pre> DejaVu Sans [unknown] 13 Text field multi-line DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Text field single-line DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Form buttons DejaVu Sans [unknown] 11 Font-family serif DejaVu Serif [unknown] Font-family sans-serif DejaVu Sans [unknown] Font-family cursive Impact [monotype] Font-family fantasy Comic Sans MS [microsoft] Font-family monospace DejaVu Sans Mono [unknown] Web page <h1> DejaVu Serif 26 bold Web page <h2> DejaVu Serif 22 bold Web page <h3> DejaVu Serif 18 bold Web page <h4> DejaVu Serif 16 bold Web page <h5> DejaVu Serif 13 bold Web page <h6> DejaVu Serif 12 bold Set it up on openSuSE and take a look. It looks very good. One other thing. I don't know why, but fonts seem to render smaller in Opera then they do in other applications. I guess that is due to the font library/engine it uses. It's not a big deal, just something to notice when selecting fonts. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. | Rankin Law Firm, PLLC | Countdown for openSuSE 11.1 510 Ochiltree Street | http://counter.opensuse.org/11.1/small Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 | Telephone: (936) 715-9333 | openSoftware und SystemEntwicklung Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 | http://www.opensuse.org/ www.rankinlawfirm.com | -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

G T Smith

11:26

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David C. Rankin wrote:

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List,

I installed opera just to check the browser out. Heck it is an integrated browser and mail package all in one. Interface is clean, fast, and the widgets are very handy. It does some pretty cool stuff with the Filters, Attachments and Mailing Lists folders under the mail widget. Who knew... Compose editor is clean and intuitive. Setup was a breeze. I'll have to get used to ctrl+m for new message.

I was alway impressed with Windows and Symbian versions, but the Linux versions tended to be a poor shadow of those a couple of years back and I have largely stopped using it on Linux. I do not use use doze that often, but prefer FireFox's extensibility.... I still have the swedish chef version somewhere, (renders IE and M$ pages as would be written by the chef in the Muppets).... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkdYEwACgkQasN0sSnLmgJBBwCgkmuxxOsI+TR5jC4hrp2+4xXZ 1oYAoK0Dh17bRpZ63nPv7JHvl3Fbqlih =Oo1h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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