Can Suse 8.2 do these things, if not how?
Hi: My wife and I are considering trying the FTP installation of Suse 8.2 to evaluate it. Is this wise, or would it be better to get a CD version? If I get the cheap version, I can download and install packages from the pro version too, right? I want my Linux desktop OS to do the following, and to have the following versions of software: 1. OpenOffice 1.0.3.1 I think 8.2 has only 1.0.2. How can I upgrade it to 1.0.3.1 without breaking functionality? I mean, they have OpenOffice integrated into the menus, and sometimes things get screwy when you remove the Suse OO.org package and install from the OpenOffice.org vanilla binary installation package, which is likely what I will want to do. Can I expect any troubles? Should I use the vanilla or is there a Suse update package to 1.0.3.1? 2. Mozilla 1.3.1 with working Java, Javascript, Flash, and Realmedia plugins. What can I expect here? I see it comes with 1.2.1. So I will be wanting to upgrade to 1.3.1 by installing the package from mozilla.org. Should I use the vanilla or is there an update package to 1.3.1? 3. Mplayer with Windows media codecs that work, or Xine with the ability to play Windows media. My wife watches Thai TV in W.M format. Right now she uses VMware, but we want to get it to work on Linux. We have gotten mplayer to work on the command line on my machine, but on hers the sound is broke, and anyway these were compiled sources from the mplayer HQ, not from Suse. We couldn't get anything to work right with Suse 8.1 Will 8.2 work correctly out of the box (or from an FTP install), or will I have headaches trying to set up the vanilla mplayer 0.9 from the mplayer project? 4. There is also an mplayer plugin for Mozilla or Netscape. Has anyone gotten this to work in Suse 8.2? 5. We will want to install MS free True Type fonts, and a bunch of Thai fonts. This has always been an ordeal in the past, with some encodings not being set right when I used GUI tools like KDE font installer, so I had to do it by hand, which got things working right. How is font installation in the newest Suse8.2/KDE 3.1? 6. VMware Express. Since several versions ago it has been necessary to download and run an additional script to get VMware Express working with Suse. Is this still needed? Is it straightforward? That's enough for now, thanks for input. Good day! -- _____________________ Christopher R. Carlen crobc@earthlink.net Suse 8.1 Linux 2.4.19
On Saturday 21 June 2003 21:08, Chris Carlen wrote:
Hi:
My wife and I are considering trying the FTP installation of Suse 8.2 to evaluate it. Is this wise, or would it be better to get a CD version?
It can be problematic, I'd advise downloading the LiveEval cd image as a start.
If I get the cheap version, I can download and install packages from the pro version too, right?
Yes.
I want my Linux desktop OS to do the following, and to have the following versions of software:
1. OpenOffice 1.0.3.1
I think 8.2 has only 1.0.2. How can I upgrade it to 1.0.3.1 without breaking functionality? I mean, they have OpenOffice integrated into the menus, and sometimes things get screwy when you remove the Suse OO.org package and install from the OpenOffice.org vanilla binary installation package, which is likely what I will want to do. Can I expect any troubles? Should I use the vanilla or is there a Suse update package to 1.0.3.1?
I've found it better to ignore the OOO on the install discs and get the package from the OOO web site. I've had no troublw with it, but haven't exactly stressed it.
2. Mozilla 1.3.1 with working Java, Javascript, Flash, and Realmedia plugins.
What can I expect here? I see it comes with 1.2.1. So I will be wanting to upgrade to 1.3.1 by installing the package from mozilla.org. Should I use the vanilla or is there an update package to 1.3.1?
Download the 1.4b from mozilla.org, and it should be no problem with Java and Realmedia (both work fine here) - but I've never mussed with Flash. <SNIP>
5. We will want to install MS free True Type fonts, and a bunch of Thai fonts. This has always been an ordeal in the past, with some encodings not being set right when I used GUI tools like KDE font installer, so I had to do it by hand, which got things working right.
How is font installation in the newest Suse8.2/KDE 3.1?
Should be no problem with the KDE Font installer. Dylan -- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 22:08, Chris Carlen wrote:
1. OpenOffice 1.0.3.1
I think 8.2 has only 1.0.2. How can I upgrade it to 1.0.3.1 without breaking functionality? I mean, they have OpenOffice integrated into the menus, and sometimes things get screwy when you remove the Suse OO.org package and install from the OpenOffice.org vanilla binary installation package, which is likely what I will want to do. Can I expect any troubles? Should I use the vanilla or is there a Suse update package to 1.0.3.1?
There are a couple of options, for example ximian.com has oo.org packages for SuSE 8.2
2. Mozilla 1.3.1 with working Java, Javascript, Flash, and Realmedia plugins.
What can I expect here? I see it comes with 1.2.1. So I will be wanting to upgrade to 1.3.1 by installing the package from mozilla.org. Should I use the vanilla or is there an update package to 1.3.1?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla
3. Mplayer with Windows media codecs that work, or Xine with the ability to play Windows media.
The packages on http://packman.links2linux.de work perfectly
4. There is also an mplayer plugin for Mozilla or Netscape. Has anyone gotten this to work in Suse 8.2?
Yes, the packages on http://packman.links2linux.de work perfectly
5. We will want to install MS free True Type fonts, and a bunch of Thai fonts. This has always been an ordeal in the past, with some encodings not being set right when I used GUI tools like KDE font installer, so I had to do it by hand, which got things working right.
How is font installation in the newest Suse8.2/KDE 3.1?
the new fontconfig makes font installation very simple Of course this is how it worked for me. Naturally, Lenz' law applies :)
My wife and I are considering trying the FTP installation of Suse 8.2 to evaluate it. Is this wise, or would it be better to get a CD version?
If you have a broadband connection, I say go for it, but please consider buying a CD release of 8.3 if you like it - that's how development gets funded.
1. OpenOffice 1.0.3.1 expect any troubles? Should I use the vanilla or is there a Suse update package to 1.0.3.1?
You could just grab the release from OpenOffice.org, and install it over the SuSE RPM install, but (albeit as someone who doesn't use office apps a lot) I've had no probs with the 1.0.2 install in 8.2
2. Mozilla 1.3.1 with working Java, Javascript, Flash, and Realmedia plugins.
Grab Wolfgang's release from ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla (or your favourite mirror)
3. Mplayer with Windows media codecs that work, or Xine with the ability to play Windows media.
MPlayer is included, but it's crippled slightly (due to licensing on codecs I suspect) so you can get packages from http://packman.links2linux.org - be sure to use the --oldpackage flag to rpm - thesem package use a lower build number than the SuSE ones...
4. There is also an mplayer plugin for Mozilla or Netscape. Has anyone gotten this to work in Suse 8.2?
You can get this from the same site as MPlayer, you'll just need to symlink /usr/lib/browser-plugins/mplayerplug-in.so into /opt/mozilla/lib/plugins
5. We will want to install MS free True Type fonts, and a bunch of Thai fonts. This has always been an ordeal in the past, with some encodings not being set right when I used GUI tools like KDE font installer, so I had to do it by hand, which got things working right. How is font installation in the newest Suse8.2/KDE 3.1?
Don't know about Thai fonts, but the Online Update that YaST runs at the end of the install can grab MS TrueType fonts and install them for you. -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2). GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
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