[opensuse] wiki software
I use wikis as a kind of personal notebook to provide an index and reference to all my other information. So they're quite important to me. I originally started with kwiki and then moved to mediawiki. I recently moved to opensuse 11.2 and discovered that mediawiki was no longer provided. I'm reluctant to install and maintain from upstream because of the extra hassle. This is just a very important tool to me and I need reliable, low-maintenance tools. I found a copy of mediawiki in home:Michael_Knight/openSUSE_11.2 so I installed that and it appeared to work, until I tried to log in, when I got PHP errors. It looks like they are well-known and fixed in later versions of mediawiki. So that build should be removed from the repository, IMHO. That leaves me with the problem of what to do now. I just used webpin to see what the alternatives are and discovered that there are apparently no wiki systems supported on opensuse! Just add-ons for various systems. This seems like a major functional omission so I'm hoping somebody can tell me that I've missed something. I also know that the opensuse.org wiki is built on mediawiki, so I'm a bit surprised that there isn't a build of the version that is used. I notice that Synaptic shows that Ubuntu supports several wiki systems. I'm hoping to discover that opensuse supports at least one. Cheers, Dave PS The link on http://www.opensuse.org/en/ to "mailing lists" is dead ("This page has been deleted") PPS The "Search options" link on http://software.opensuse.org/search doesn't work. It would be nice if the noscript default didn't disable functionality! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth said the following on 09/29/2010 07:13 AM:
I use wikis as a kind of personal notebook to provide an index and reference to all my other information. So they're quite important to me.
For that I use TiddlyWiki. I keep a copy on a USB stick so its portable. You did say "personal notebook", so I presume you don't mean a public wiki that all and sundry can read and write. See http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ for the current download and http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page or the discussion and http://tiddlyspace.com/ and a collection of tools and plugins at http://www.tiddlytools.com/ The unhelpful (aka lacking insight) wikipedia entry is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiddlyWiki -- The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and i'm not even too sure about that one" - Dennis Huges, FBI. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
Dave Howorth said the following on 09/29/2010 07:13 AM:
I use wikis as a kind of personal notebook to provide an index and reference to all my other information. So they're quite important to me.
For that I use TiddlyWiki. I keep a copy on a USB stick so its portable.
You did say "personal notebook", so I presume you don't mean a public wiki that all and sundry can read and write.
Thanks for the idea. I looked at tiddlywiki a while ago but decided I wanted something more general-purpose. I integrate the wiki with my [internal] web applications to provide their help pages, for example. But my main question is about whether opensuse supports any wiki at all? Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth said the following on 09/29/2010 08:28 AM:
Thanks for the idea. I looked at tiddlywiki a while ago but decided I wanted something more general-purpose.
Me too. I looked at Tiddlywiki a few times since it was announced and thought "Nice toy". Earlier this year I looked again and found it had progressed into a serious tool and I'm now using it not only for a notebook on a few projects but as a general purpose wiki. There are a plethora of very specific plug-ins, and they are all pretty lightweight. However the big advantage is that its just there, I don't need to set up and configure a web server and worry about details of configuration and access permissions. -- Plurality is never to be posited without need. --Occam -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:49:42 -0400
Anton Aylward
Dave Howorth said the following on 09/29/2010 07:13 AM:
I use wikis as a kind of personal notebook to provide an index and reference to all my other information. So they're quite important to me.
For that I use TiddlyWiki. I keep a copy on a USB stick so its portable.
You did say "personal notebook", so I presume you don't mean a public wiki that all and sundry can read and write.
See http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ for the current download and http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page or the discussion and http://tiddlyspace.com/ and a collection of tools and plugins at http://www.tiddlytools.com/
The unhelpful (aka lacking insight) wikipedia entry is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiddlyWiki
Hi I have Zim in my home repository http://zim-wiki.org/index.html -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.34.7-0.3-default up 17:29, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.05 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 256.53 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
I use wikis as a kind of personal notebook to provide an index and reference to all my other information. So they're quite important to me. I originally started with kwiki and then moved to mediawiki.
I have roughly the same, although more as a corporate documentation place. A virtual binder.
I recently moved to opensuse 11.2 and discovered that mediawiki was no longer provided. I'm reluctant to install and maintain from upstream because of the extra hassle. This is just a very important tool to me and I need reliable, low-maintenance tools.
Personally I dislike these packaged PHP applications, and I don't think they benefit much from being RPMified. I install from upstream, but it's not a frequent occurrence.
That leaves me with the problem of what to do now. I just used webpin to see what the alternatives are and discovered that there are apparently no wiki systems supported on opensuse! Just add-ons for various systems.
Is this what you're looking for: http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=mediawiki&baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.2&p=1 -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 12:13 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: I use Trac. It is admittedly geared more to development (integrated issue tracker and works with SNV or Mercurial). But you can only use the wiki it that is all you need. Highly configurable. Perfect for our group's needs. It is available from http://trac.edgewall.org/, which also runs it. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 15:37 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 12:13 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
I use Trac. It is admittedly geared more to development (integrated issue tracker and works with SNV or Mercurial). But you can only use the
SVN is perhaps more correct... -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 29 September 2010 06:13:05 Dave Howorth wrote:
I also know that the opensuse.org wiki is built on mediawiki, so I'm a bit surprised that there isn't a build of the version that is used.
I use local instance to test extensions and once I got all dependencies installed with pattern "Web and LAMP server", I have to untar and install MediaWiki using its own script, so not much need for rpm capabilities. The version that is used for opensuse.org is the 1.16 that is just released, so if there will be rpm in distro the version will be 1.15.1 that was available before release, with few gotchas (bugs) and missing improvements. The MediaWiki software is kept in runnable state at all times, so being on released version means that you probably have few bugs more then one on the bleeding edge. Useful for production servers, but not for testing extension functionality. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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