[opensuse] server side
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro? just curious.... openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? add my ym "l1u_8e1" to your buddy list lets share our knowledge on openSUSE br, tambun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
chika wrote:
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro?
It's one of the best possible distros to use as a server, since it's very complete and managable. I do a lot of consulting jobs for small and medium businesses, and opensuse performs quite solidly. Of course, personal preferences play a large part. I've been a unix admin since the 90s, and have tried most of the major distros out there, and for the most part suse is my goto distro.
just curious.... openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean?
That could be a slight difference in kernel parameters, which are easily tuned. It could also be a different usage pattern - could it be that you're running a totally different workload on the 2 distros, or you had suse booted up longer? In general linux will always use all the RAM it can, because unused RAM is wasted RAM.
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Sloan wrote:
chika wrote:
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro?
openSuSE is bulletproof as a server. The only time I have downtime is when I reboot to install a new kernel. (well there was that time in '05 when Hurricane Rita came through and knocked power out for 7 days. I did have downtime after the ups batteries were exhausted) -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 00:18 +0700, chika wrote:
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro?
How do you wish to use it as a server? Where and how affect whether your particular distro is good for what you want to do. Give us more information about your goals and we'll give you better educated answers.
just curious.... openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean?
What are you currently running? If you're trying to make it a server, do you need any other services running on the box? For example, use init 3 instead of init 5 to reduce graphics load on your RAM, etc. Again, give us more details what is happening with your box.
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You can also join the open-suse IRC channel. You'll have a better chance of talking live to someone than via yahoo where each of us have to add you and that's not cool for us.
br,
tambun
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On Friday 02 November 2007 18:18:48 chika wrote:
just curious.... openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean?
How do you measure it? You should know that tools like top are almost useless for measuring memory usage. The simple command line tool "free" is probably best. If you run "free", the last number on the second line tells you how much memory is really free on the system Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 02 November 2007 18:18:48 chika wrote:
just curious.... openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean?
How/what did you install? If you installed "default kde/gnome ore even minimal X" there is a fair chance that a truck load full of applications are installed and preloaded (!) that you do not want on a server, like firefox, OOo or gimp. OTOH, today i created an xen dom-u image (10.3) completely with lamp, using only half of the 384 MB.... So for servers: text only, and remove all you don't need! Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 02 November 2007 10:18, chika wrote:
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server???
Certainly.
any option, maybe another distro?
Probably. I hear Solaris gets used for servers a lot...
just curious.... openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean?
People often worry when they see persistently high memory utilization on Linux systems. They fear they're running out of memory, when in fact free memory is wasted memory. Most of the time on most desktop Linux systems with a reasonable margin of RAM, a good bit of the "used" RAM is just cached disk contents that can be reused (without requiring disk I/O) if needed or discarded and reassigned to a different use at no cost. You _want_ to see high overall utilization. It means Linux is making the most of the physical RAM you have. As to any differences between Ubuntu and openSUSE, I have no idea. It probably just reflects a different pattern of system usage.
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chika wrote:
just curious.... openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean?
Look at your memory with "free -tm" and look the used and free cached and -/+ buffers/cache. total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1011 949 61 0 389 136 -/+ buffers/cache: 424 587 Swap: 1011 3 1008 Total: 2023 953 1070 While mem: reports 949 used and 61 free, in reality less than half of that is still in actual use (424) and there is actually (587) of what was previously in use that is now free. I suspect you will see the same thing. Someone else will have to further explain the memory management scheme in more detail. This is from a current 10.0 server w/1G. For most of it's life it only had 512M of RAM. It supported, web, mail, vpn, file sharing, groupware, ftp without problems. I recently upgraded to 1G and performance is improved, same rock solid performance. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello,
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro?
We have some customers with openSuSE (10.2) running on their servers. They use them for several things: NMS (Nagios, Cacti), as a base for several databases (oracle mostly), there are even some with Lotus Domino on top. Nevwertheless, most use the enterprise product (SLES10); especially on HP Servers this has some benefits. Upto now I wasn't able to install HP Inisght Agents on openSuSE 10.2 (have not tried on 10.3 yet). It is not supported by HP.While on openSuSE 9 the stuff for SLES9 works, on SuSE 10 the agents for SLES10 do not. If you want to use your server for monitoring other HP Servers (with the HP Insight Manager) you allso should tunr to SLES, as openSuSE is not supported from HP. As for other distributions, it heavily depends on what you want to do. For most 3rd.-party-appliations there are limits, on what they support their product. (Domino for example is supported on most enterprise products.) Solaris and FreeBSD are not Linux; they behave different, and some things are not availyble for them. But both make extremly stable (and, if configured right, secure) servers. Hpe that helps... Ortwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Would be nice to chair some experiences regarding opensuse via instant message.
My ym is "phaceton"
On 11/2/07, Ortwin Ebhardt
Hello,
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro?
We have some customers with openSuSE (10.2) running on their servers. They use them for several things: NMS (Nagios, Cacti), as a base for several databases (oracle mostly), there are even some with Lotus Domino on top.
Nevwertheless, most use the enterprise product (SLES10); especially on HP Servers this has some benefits. Upto now I wasn't able to install HP Inisght Agents on openSuSE 10.2 (have not tried on 10.3 yet). It is not supported by HP.While on openSuSE 9 the stuff for SLES9 works, on SuSE 10 the agents for SLES10 do not. If you want to use your server for monitoring other HP Servers (with the HP Insight Manager) you allso should tunr to SLES, as openSuSE is not supported from HP.
As for other distributions, it heavily depends on what you want to do. For most 3rd.-party-appliations there are limits, on what they support their product. (Domino for example is supported on most enterprise products.)
Solaris and FreeBSD are not Linux; they behave different, and some things are not availyble for them. But both make extremly stable (and, if configured right, secure) servers.
Hpe that helps...
Ortwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 22:01 +0100, Peter Harmsen wrote:
Would be nice to chair some experiences regarding opensuse via instant message. My ym is "phaceton"
http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate Use the openSUSE IRC chat room. Better than a splintered conversation via YM. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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