On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:23 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3?

Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites.

What channel/repo did you use?

You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 -- Regards, Graham Smith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 08:15 -0000, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2

Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way?

Of course it does: it is stable! :-P And older, obviously. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8k2ptTMYHG2NR9URAr15AJ96T/e1Jht2J2tPe7XWLUr0IJoZJgCdF1aE qeBykq9hOedQxF1a5cZG7U0= =7xrA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hans van der Merwe wrote:

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 08:15 -0000, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2

Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way?

Of course it does: it is stable! :-P

Well, at some point it becomes stable and moves over to the STABLE tree? or is the version in there always unstable?

Hans There is nothing unstable about it - it works AOK :-) .

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On Thursday 20 September 2007 05:23:18 am JP Rosevear wrote:

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet.

Having a release put off because 1 person "doesn't have time" is quite ridiculous. I would totally understand if the reasoning was because it is not considered fully tested / stable with Novell modifications, that would make more sense ,but to just have the release of a long anticipated OOo put off because someone "doesn't have time" just blows my mind.. -- How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 20 September 2007 12:34:16 pm Benji Weber wrote:

On 20/09/2007, Ben Kevan wrote:

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I would totally understand if the reasoning was because it is not considered fully tested / stable with Novell modifications, that would make more sense ,but to just have the release of a long anticipated OOo put off because someone "doesn't have time" just blows my mind..

OOo has been released, there are even openSUSE packages, all that hasn't happened yet is having it moved from the build service repository containing development builds to the one containing stable builds. OOo 2.3 will also be shipped with the upcoming openSUSE 10.3.

_ Benjamin Weber

Thanks I understand that, but it is crazy that several days after the release openSUSE users don't have it in their "Stable" repository because one person doesn't have time to do so. -- How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 20 September 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 12:53 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:

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I understand that, but it is crazy that several days after the release openSUSE users don't have it in their "Stable" repository because one person doesn't have time to do so.

And I don't understand why a version that has been put in the unstable repo can be "upgraded" to stable before a month has passed.

The packages should get rebuilt automatically when I submit a new package to factory (currently for 10.3). It was disabled my mistake last two weeks. I have just enabled it again. If it goes well, also the unstable project should have the final packages tomorrow. I am sorry for the unnecessary delay. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: pmladek@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 25 September 2007, L. Mark Stone wrote:

Petr,

Thanks for taking care of all of this. Everything installed OK.

One note: the NLD artwork still says version 2.1, even though this is version 2.3.

Good point. I have asked our artwork maestro to provide updated pictures. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: pmladek@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 09/20/2007 08:42 PM, Ben Kevan wrote:

On Thursday 20 September 2007 05:23:18 am JP Rosevear wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet.

Having a release put off because 1 person "doesn't have time" is quite ridiculous.

I don't want to be rude, but...: be glad that at least somebody does it. If it sounds ridiculous to you, join the OOo group and do it yourselves. André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 11:42 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:

On Thursday 20 September 2007 05:23:18 am JP Rosevear wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet.

Having a release put off because 1 person "doesn't have time" is quite ridiculous.

The release was not put off, its in openSUSE 10.3. It just hasn't moved in the build service repo's from UNSTABLE to STABLE yet. And 2.3 was officially released only this week. -JP -- JP Rosevear Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-25 at 19:56 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:

I would like to keep the OpenOffice_org:STABLE project really stable. I do not want to force people to download the big best every two weeks. So I really would like to wait for the final stabilized build and update it once per three months or so.

I agree with that. I want to keep reasonably updated, but I also want to have the more stable version possible. If I wanted bleeding edge, I would install the "unstable" branch instead. So, update it on a three month period or whenever you think it is stable enough.

I might be wrong. People might want something else. I am open to discuss the schedules, ...

Well, there you have an opinion :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG+VPntTMYHG2NR9URAnUjAJsH5OnOFpGRcrv8Wh8pjBhmG0f1iACgj318 JLOenbIGp94aRm+EI/thd8I= =VoIV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way?

Of course it does: it is stable! :-P

Well, at some point it becomes stable and moves over to the STABLE tree? or is the version in there always unstable?

If it proves to be stable, it is moved, I suppose. I remember reading the maintainer here, something about testing new features that could be buggy. That should be the unstable version. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8o2TtTMYHG2NR9URAiJvAKCWnzK0mYSXI/MM2xIPQ7GPEfRYDQCbBnI4 PVnNDcoKPZfO8O7F82E6y+g= =i37o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3?

tnx jk

Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites.

So, I guess the next question is "where is it hiding?". ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 14:04 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote:

However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms)

Which will not have all Novell modifications. Some of them haven't gone upstream yet. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8o4ttTMYHG2NR9URApeqAJoDAlkYKVtOwexz3okoMPfFaArWiwCglwom eMwM/l3ee90IPgP08fLnd14= =rjR5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 17:31 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote:

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However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms)

Which will not have all Novell modifications. Some of them haven't gone upstream yet. Of course you're right. ;) Btw. is there a list of modifications Novell did?

Dunno. A important one should be the compatibility thing with that xml format of M$ - I don't write the exact name because I forgot; oxml? .xdoc?. But they (Novell) do a lot of contributions, not only that one, I understand. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8qv3tTMYHG2NR9URAvuYAJ9vaS4JICOIujgKWlNcKIvbT3BTRACbBCCu +QKY02PGh8c1kDnHsvSz5pM= =LzvJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 21:28 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 19:20:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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A important one should be the compatibility thing with that xml format of M$ - I don't write the exact name because I forgot; oxml? .xdoc?. But they (Novell) do a lot of contributions, not only that one, I understand. You mean OOXML, extension .[doc,ppt,xls,...]x (i.e. .docx).

That one.

Go visit www.noooxml.org for some good reasons against it ;)

I'm against it as an ISO standard. However, I can't oposse Microsoft using it on their own software, the same as we can't force them to use the oasis format. I'm sure I will receive, sooner or later, files in that format, wan't it or not; therefore, I'd rather be able to read/write them easily. I'd probably prefer that format than the plain old .doc. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8tP2tTMYHG2NR9URAhKWAJ9d8SArSKAHph6y6XYSbKXOZjQrtgCfReLn gcdpgRnIAS7lrudaKDJdNQ0= =Mlul -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Someone already stated that it WILL be included in 10.3. B-) On Thursday 20 September 2007 3:46 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote:

The original question seems not to have been answered, to wit: is Novell going to include Open Office in its next release, and if not, what does one do to get a Novell-compatible version. (I'm referring to the 10.3 release, due out in a couple of weeks.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 17:46 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

The original question seems not to have been answered, to wit: is Novell going to include Open Office in its next release, and if not, what does one do to get a Novell-compatible version. (I'm referring to the 10.3 release, due out in a couple of weeks.)

Another question: If Novell is NOT going to include Open Office, then why not? It is supposed to be open software, no?

That was not the original question. The original question was posted by James Knott, and had only one line: ] Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? He asked nothing of suse 10.3. Nobody has said that OpenOffice was not going to be included in 10.3, and it is in fact included. As always. I don't understand how you got that strange idea? :-o - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8wlhtTMYHG2NR9URAhbDAJ9jnriZn5TSzKpsHMoKP+dpS0sj8gCePt1q DbovrofPr1cwvz0QyKFQyHo= =FAuK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 20:21 -0400, James Knott wrote:

Michael Skiba wrote:

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Am Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 13:11:57 schrieb James Knott:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3?

tnx jk

Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites.

So, I guess the next question is "where is it hiding?". ;-)

Which you already figured out ;)

However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms)

I just tried installing OO 2.3 from smart om a SUSE 10.0, and I get this: Can't install OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1@i586: no package provides OpenOffice_org-hyphen Indeed, an rpm -i --test reveals a need for these packages, which I do not see: OpenOffice_org-hyphen is needed by OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en is needed by OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1 I did not see them in 10.0 or 10.2. I could very well be blind... -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobl: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 21 September 2007, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

I just tried installing OO 2.3 from smart om a SUSE 10.0, and I get this:

Can't install OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1@i586: no package provides OpenOffice_org-hyphen

Indeed, an rpm -i --test reveals a need for these packages, which I do not see:

OpenOffice_org-hyphen is needed by OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1

OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en is needed by OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1

I did not see them in 10.0 or 10.2. I could very well be blind...

They were really missing. It should be fixed now. Search them in the noarch tree. I am sorry for the inconvenience. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: pmladek@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Am Freitag, 21. September 2007 14:36:53 schrieb Michael Skiba:

Am Freitag, 21. September 2007 02:21:10 schrieb James Knott:

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However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms)

I haven't noticed a 64 bit version there. [...] I guess this is a invitation for any volunteer ;)

Feel free to help, i.e. with testing :) I got further informations: You can find the _UNTESTED_ x64 versions of OOo here: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/OOG680_m5/Build-1/

Is I already mentioned, they're not enough tested to put them on the official site yet - you can help to speed up this process by testing these builds and give a feedback at: dev@qa.openoffice.org (In English please) or in German: dev@qa.openoffice.org Greetings and thanks Michael

James Knott wrote:

Basil Chupin wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3?

tnx jk

Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites.

So, I guess the next question is "where is it hiding?". ;-)

I guess by now you would have seen the source for it (the one termed 'unstable' ) :-) . There is nothing unstable about OO from that site. Cheers. - Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org