You're right, of course, and that goes for thread hijacking, top posting, indiscriminate quoting and a host of other inconsiderate practices.

People are rude, thoughtless and inconsiderate. What are you going to do? Withdraw from society?     Assholes are assholes, trying to educate them is a waste of time and effort. Which basically means, that if you are a man of moral principles, you have only one

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On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 12:59 +0200, Örn Hansen wrote:

On Apr 12, 2007 05:51 AM, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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You're right, of course, and that goes for thread hijacking, top posting, indiscriminate quoting and a host of other inconsiderate practices.

People are rude, thoughtless and inconsiderate. What are you going to do? Withdraw from society?

Assholes are assholes, trying to educate them is a waste of time and effort.

It's usually a rather fruitless activity, but necessary none-the-less, one does not fix ones behaviour if one is unaware that it is wrong, and had it pointed out in a due manner.

Which basically means, that if you are a man of moral principles, you have only one option in the matter ... withdrawal into seclusion.

I tend to disagree, having moral principles can very well mean that one has also developed a sense that others may or may not share said principles, which means you do not have to withdraw into seclusion, but you do have to live with those who do not share your views, preferably in an amicable way. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:28 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time). I find myself having to reply to all and edit the recipient out. Got caught out a couple of times early on with this 'feature'.

evolution does the same, so I do the same editing. The list posts contain: List-Post: mailto:opensuse@opensuse.org List-Help: mailto:opensuse+help@opensuse.org List-Subscribe: mailto:opensuse+subscribe@opensuse.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org List-Owner: mailto:opensuse+owner@opensuse.org But not all mailers know what to do with this. Do any mail readers use these for reply purposes? If not, they are only using the From: field, which makes sense. The Cc to the list must be from the To: field in the message. I guess the list management software would have to put an envelope around the message to change this behavior. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:28 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

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I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time). I find myself having to reply to all and edit the recipient out. Got caught out a couple of times early on with this 'feature'.

evolution does the same, so I do the same editing. The list posts contain:

List-Post: mailto:opensuse@opensuse.org List-Help: mailto:opensuse+help@opensuse.org List-Subscribe: mailto:opensuse+subscribe@opensuse.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org List-Owner: mailto:opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

But not all mailers know what to do with this. Do any mail readers use these for reply purposes? If not, they are only using the From: field, which makes sense. The Cc to the list must be from the To: field in the message. I guess the list management software would have to put an envelope around the message to change this behavior.

According to RFC 822 (4.4.3/4.4.4) the ReplyTo field is supposed to override the From field for the purposes of replying to a message. (Useful if you are sending from account a but want any replies directed to account b). I think the above Headers are non-standard so I would not expect all mail clients to support them (in fact my copy of TBird does not even report them).... but I am not certain... there is a RFC containing a description of non-standard headers not included in the standard header RFCs, cant remember number at moment...

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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According to RFC 822 (4.4.3/4.4.4) the ReplyTo field is supposed to override the From field for the purposes of replying to a message. (Useful if you are sending from account a but want any replies directed to account b). I think the above Headers are non-standard

AFAIK, non standard headers are of the form X-something.

To further confuse things these are really the more standard non-standard headers, :-) I refer you to RFC 2076 ....

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so I would not expect all mail clients to support them (in fact my copy of TBird does not even report them)....

Yes, it does, if you "display all headers". However, there are so many that they overflow the window, and thunderbird is so dumb as to not put a slide rule so that you can browse down and right: thus you can not see all of them.

Use "view message source" instead.

Thanks for this

I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time).

This comes about about once a year on almost every list I am on [the debate about Reply-To headers]; it is really annoying. The *ONLY* relevant person/people to discuss this with is the list maintainers. Look up the maintainers address(es) and bother them. -- -- Adam Tauno Williams Network & Systems Administrator Consultant - http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 13 April 2007 02:57, John Summerfield wrote:

On Thursday 12 April 2007 19:37, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

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This comes about about once a year on almost every list I am on [the debate about Reply-To headers];  it is really annoying.  The *ONLY* relevant person/people to discuss this with is the list maintainers. Look up the maintainers address(es) and bother them.

In my experience, they mostly ignore the views of one person. Presumably, if approached by several then they might listen. Especially, in this case, it's someone from Novell or SUSE. Pointing to this thread might help.

John, there was something like year ago long debate with voting at the end and present status won. The idea was not to support "broken" clients, which in Thunderbird case means some more time waiting for reply to list feature to be included. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 13:54 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

I set a reply-to header to the list, so that the default for a reply is directed to the list.

And I have procmail set to overwrite it using formail, so it is lost :-p However, I set it to the list, so that I can use Pine easily.

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I equate off-list with spam, and unless I specifically give you permission to email me, you don't have the right.

This is rediculous.

Why? Aside from the annoying spam to the list addresses (spammers like web archives!) the purpuse of a support mailinglist is to help each other and have the archive available as a research base. Private replies defeat this purpose.

For these reasons I do not understand why you think it is ridiculous.

He thinks it is ridiculous to consider private emails as spam, I understand. It may be a nuisance, but not that much. My filters are clever enough to separate list replies, CCs, and directs.

Sometimes I get private replies because the requested logs or configuration files contain private data, but otherwise I see no reason for private replies. Being lazy on your part does not constitute a good reason for private replies.

Most of them are simply mistakes. The fact is that many mail clients are not list aware and friendly - not even Pine - thus people may get confused at first and email direct by accident. Then, they revert to reply to all, which is another nuisance, but not a big one. SuSE version of thunderbird contains a hidden setting to modify "reply all" behaviour so that it sends to the list instead. I forgot how I activated it, though. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGHiTCtTMYHG2NR9URAos1AJwK2A61fqknMhTbBz0wm92a6Yqt1ACffKBA pP0SxDukbRpToKDjODwNK9M= =4H9E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sandy Drobic wrote:

For a long time I used "reply-all" in Thunderbird and edited the recipients, then I discovered a plugin for List Reply, so I only have to remember to click on "Reply List".

Once I new it existed I found it, downloaded it and it seems to work... Thanks (Though for some reason it is not seem to be an official Thunderbird plugin, I found it at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/attachments/replytolist-0.2.0.xpi if anyones interested).

Peter Bradley wrote:

Ysgrifennodd G.T.Smith:

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Once I new it existed I found it, downloaded it and it seems to work... Thanks

(Though for some reason it is not seem to be an official Thunderbird plugin, I found it at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/attachments/replytolist-0.2.0.xpi if anyones interested).

Doesn't work for me. "Not compatible with Firefox", when I try to install it.

You should not *install* it in Firefox, but *save* it somewhere. (I have a directory "downloads" for this type of thing). Then in TB click Tools>Extensions>install. It opens up a file dialogbox where you can click on the file just saved. bingo, it installs *in TB* this time. Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 4/12/07, Peter Bradley wrote:

I know. But how?

I click on the link and it tries to install it. I save the link address and it does the same. How can I get it to download the file and not try to install the *@!* thing?

Believe me, if I could find a way to download it into my folder at /home/peter/downloads/thunderbird I would do just that.

Peter

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Pueblo Native wrote:

installing it is one thing, how do I actually make it work, and I'm using TB 2.0 All you need to do is (if you just installed it you may need to restart TB) Add the Reply to List Button to your toolbar (right click and choose Customize, then drag it to where you want [I added it beside Forward]). Then, on a list email, it will be active and you can hit it to reply and it will properly address the email. Not too hard.

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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Pueblo Native wrote:

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installing it is one thing, how do I actually make it work, and I'm using TB 2.0

All you need to do is (if you just installed it you may need to restart TB) Add the Reply to List Button to your toolbar (right click and choose Customize, then drag it to where you want [I added it beside Forward]). Then, on a list email, it will be active and you can hit it to reply and it will properly address the email. Not too hard.

Okay, me and my 124 IQ can't figure this out, since when I highlight an e-mail, the "replay to list" function is disabled. I can supply a screenshot if needed. Where did you get your Thunderbird from? The plugin requires Enigmail (used for gpg signing). Mine has been working very well. The only time mine is inactive is when there is no mailing list headers, i.e. for

Pueblo Native wrote: personal mail. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Pueblo Native [04-12-07 21:01]:

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: [...]

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Where did you get your Thunderbird from? The plugin requires Enigmail (used for gpg signing). Mine has been working very well. The only time mine is inactive is when there is no mailing list headers, i.e. for personal mail.

Thunderbird 2.0, beta.

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The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 19:00 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:

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Thunderbird 2.0, beta.

AFAIK, you need suse patched version, or patch it yourself (meaning recompile).

Correct. Definitely take the openSUSE packages of Thunderbird, they already include the required patch. Additionally, you must also install the extension (but as said, it also requires the patch). cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGHy3Jr3NMWliFcXcRAr3hAJwJgV0SKZ/SdlOhBkJktJqSM4+/VACgqSj+ il8W0WoTrW3NhCMDt+iVOGA= =7zkf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hello List, Sorry but I really need some help from someone that is more knowledgeable within hardware then me, I just just assembled the machine with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out? Kind regards Per Qvindesland -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

CPU fan should go on only when needed (or when CPU is overheated). Indeed it is normal that CPU fan starts on start, then it should go of and then on when temperature rises. But it is not normal that it goes on and of in intervals. Advise: Check CPU past and cooler in CPU is that good assembled, keep in mined that too much CPU pasta is also bad for system it can make shortcut on MB when gets warm( can leak) Regards, Zoran On Friday 13 April 2007 15:34, Leen de Braal Schreef:

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Hello List,

Sorry but I really need some help from someone that is more knowledgeable within hardware then me, I just just assembled the machine with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out?

What mobo and what processor exactly? Have you checked if the mobo supports the cpu? (vendor website) No beeps?

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Kind regards Per Qvindesland

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On Friday 13 April 2007 05:31, Per Qvindesland wrote:

Hello List,

Sorry but I really need some help from someone that is more knowledgeable within hardware then me, I just just assembled the machine with a intel core 2 processor but when I turn on the machine the system fan turn on also the cpu fan but then it turns off and start up again with the same results, it goes in a loop, can anyone please help me out?

Do I understand you to be saying that just the fan cycles on and off, or is it the whole system? On one system I'm familiar with, a similar symptom (except that it doesn't go on forever) occurs when one configures overclocking parameters (CPU or RAM timings, multipliers or clock speeds) that don't permit even a some system operation. When such a circumstance is detected, the BIOS performs a momentary power-down and then restarts with default speed and timing parameters so you can go in an change your too-aggressive chipping. Could this be related to what you're seeing? By the way, you say there's no error beeps. Perhaps this board has a numeric on-board error condition indicator (typically a two-digit, seven-segment LED display)? If so, did you check the code it shows?

Kind regards Per Qvindesland

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Ysgrifennodd Jos van Kan:

You should not *install* it in Firefox, but *save* it somewhere. (I have a directory "downloads" for this type of thing). Then in TB click Tools>Extensions>install. It opens up a file dialogbox where you can click on the file just saved. bingo, it installs *in TB* this time.

Regards,

Well, I managed to download mnenhy using Konq in the end. It then installed in TB just fine and the Reply to List button became active. But does it work? No. Clicking the button has no effect. Zilch. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling Reply to List in case it was an order of installation thing. Still the same. And yes, I am using SuSE. Couldn't install enigmail as it apparently wants Thunderbird v2.0. So I'm giving up. Apologies to those who might get unintentional off-list replies from me. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ysgrifennodd Jan Karjalainen:

Try this one (I modified it to work with TB > 1.5): http://www.fmbv.nu/replyToList-0.1.xpi It doesn't need enigmail or any other extensions to work.

You are a star! What are you? A star. Correct. Joking apart, thanks Jan. This mail coming to you (or rather to the list: not to you) courtesy of replyToList-0.1 :) Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ysgrifennodd Wolfgang Rosenauer:

You state that you are using SUSE but you don't use SUSE's Thunderbird since you wouldn't need to install enigmail as it's already preinstalled in those builds. As stated often enough this extension doesn't work w/o a modification to the thunderbird source code.

Wolfgang

:-D Let's see... Yup. It's definitely SuSE 10.0 64 bit. Funny little cameleon in the corner and everything. Hasn't mutated into a completely different OS overnight, thankfully. I only tried enigmail and mehny or whatever it called itself because, SuSE or not, ReplyToList didn't work when I installed it on its own. Fortunately, as you'll no doubt have seen by now, Jan posted a version that works. So now I have absolutely no excuse for posting off-list. Many thanks to you, Wolfgang, and everyone else for helping me get it sorted. Cheers Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

G.T.Smith wrote:

(Though for some reason it is not seem to be an official Thunderbird plugin, I found it at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/attachments/replytolist-0.2.0.xpi if anyones interested).

It's no official plugin since it doesn't work out of the box. It depends on another extension and a code modification in Thunderbird. Both requirements are met with SUSE's Thunderbird since it includes the code modification and contains enigmail prepackaged. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Summerfield wrote:

On Thursday 12 April 2007 21:24, G.T.Smith wrote:

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For a long time I used "reply-all" in Thunderbird and edited the recipients, then I discovered a plugin for List Reply, so I only have to remember to click on "Reply List".

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Once I new it existed I found it, downloaded it and it seems to work... Thanks

That fixes it only for those who find out about and install them. It doesn't fix the problem, it's only a bandaid.

Better to configure the list so it just works. Even ig rbird, kmail, evolution and all the other *x email clients are fixed to work well (some do), there are still others such as Lookout/Lookout Express. Pegassus etc

I got a reply quoting me to the list mail list configuration policy..... Of course. the message was off-list :-)

There's a thing that puts a Reply Group button on the toolbar, but it won't install because it's, "Not compatible with Firefox". Last time I saw that was when I tried to install a _thunderbird_ extension in _firefix_.

Thunderbird: Tools, add-ons, install and then locate an xpi file, *or paste the url to the xpi* :-) mj -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Peter Bradley wrote:

It's now installed, but useless because it's always deactivated. For example I couldn't use it to reply to this mail. It doesn't seem to know that this is a list.

Or am I missing something else blindingly obvious.

Hmm, it just works for me. Which Thunderbird exactly do you have installed? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-04-12 12:36, Peter Bradley wrote:

<snip>

It's now installed, but useless because it's always deactivated. For example I couldn't use it to reply to this mail. It doesn't seem to know that this is a list.

Or am I missing something else blindingly obvious. You also need either mnenhy or enigmail. The "official reason" for this has something to do with the degree of difficulty in parsing headers. Since that is already done in both of those other extensions, the author apparently saw no need to reinvent the wheel.

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Ysgrifennodd Carlos E. R.:

<snip /> SuSE version of thunderbird contains a hidden setting to modify "reply all" behaviour so that it sends to the list instead. I forgot how I activated it, though.

Any clues at all? I'd like to try that. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-04-12 12:12, Peter Bradley wrote:

Ysgrifennodd Carlos E. R.:

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<snip /> SuSE version of thunderbird contains a hidden setting to modify "reply all" behaviour so that it sends to the list instead. I forgot how I activated it, though.

Any clues at all? I'd like to try that.

Try adding user_pref("mailnews.clobber_list_reply", true); to the prefs.js in your user profile. This is what Seamonkey uses to accomplish the same thing, so it should work in T'bird also. IIRC it takes effect immediately in Seamonkey, but I have no idea if a T'bird restart is necessary. -- Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- HG Wells -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

On 2007-04-12 12:12, Peter Bradley wrote:

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Ysgrifennodd Carlos E. R.:

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<snip /> SuSE version of thunderbird contains a hidden setting to modify "reply all" behaviour so that it sends to the list instead. I forgot how I activated it, though.

Any clues at all? I'd like to try that.

Try adding

user_pref("mailnews.clobber_list_reply", true);

to the prefs.js in your user profile. This is what Seamonkey uses to accomplish the same thing, so it should work in T'bird also. IIRC it takes effect immediately in Seamonkey, but I have no idea if a T'bird restart is necessary.

I just tried it with Thunderbird, but it doesn't seem to work. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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Try adding

user_pref("mailnews.clobber_list_reply", true);

to the prefs.js in your user profile. This is what Seamonkey uses to accomplish the same thing, so it should work in T'bird also. IIRC it takes effect immediately in Seamonkey, but I have no idea if a T'bird restart is necessary.

I just tried it with Thunderbird, but it doesn't seem to work.

Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird.

Wolfgang

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Sandy Drobic wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird.

Wolfgang

I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now.

I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^)

Thunderbird: 1.5.10 Enigmail: 0.94.3 reply to list: 0.1

Don't know anymore, where I got it from...

Try http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension -- "I don't know who you are or where you've come from, but from now on you'll do as I say, okay?" - Princess Leia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Karjalainen wrote:

Sandy Drobic wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Even if it was said already a hundred times. This does _NOT_ work with other Thunderbird versions as the SUSE provided ones. Since your user-agent says ...Windows... I assume you are not using a SUSE provided Thunderbird.

Wolfgang

I don't recall seeing that mentioned before. And yes, this is a Windows computer. I'm at work right now.

I am using Thunderbird on a Windows machine as well, and I have a reply-to-list button. (^-^)

Thunderbird: 1.5.10 Enigmail: 0.94.3 reply to list: 0.1

Don't know anymore, where I got it from...

Try http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension

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On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 13:54 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

I set a reply-to header to the list, so that the default for a reply is directed to the list.

Where do you set the header? Is this is a TBird thing? Or a procmail or some other filter on incomming mail? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 4/13/07, John Summerfield wrote:

Not so ridiculous as you mailing to me off-list as you highlighted a reason for the problem. I could argue that spam is less inconvenient as there's only one way to deal with it: <plonk>.

Solicited email is not spam. As I said, every mail client I use (4) will reply to the sender, because the list sets the reply-to to the sender. Using alternative clients is not an option, and if people really don't like replies in this way I'll have to stop helping people on the list until the reply-to is changed back to the list. _ Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-04-13 at 09:43 +0100, Benji Weber wrote:

As I said, every mail client I use (4) will reply to the sender, because the list sets the reply-to to the sender. Using alternative clients is not an option, and if people really don't like replies in this way I'll have to stop helping people on the list until the reply-to is changed back to the list.

It never was and never will be, so that willbe good by for you, I suppose. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGIMkVtTMYHG2NR9URAoFaAJ9yZ6l/TJ3UygOrEMdkPlnpp9pmjwCfVNY0 n3jpja7HEK9LYZ3Za83fDyc= =Byye -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org