Hi all, Some years ago, I tried KMail and did not like it for various reasons and went to the Netscape/Mozilla packages and eventually to Thunderbird. Generally I am happy with TBird, but during the conversion from PMMail to TBird for my friend, I found it necessary to explore other options for her because TBird simply made it too hard to do the import. She had been using PMMail as a kind of a database program (which it could do with mail objects) and conversion of her contacts list and message base has proved very difficult. During the exploration, I reexamined KMail and found that it is able to import the raw messages from PMMail without any problem IF I import just one folder at at time and move the messages into the KMail structure manually. TBird imported the same files as a Directory folder containing one *.MSG message which I had to move individually and then delete the folder which was difficult because TBird would not allow multiple folders to be selected. Because hundreds or thousands of messages were involved, that proved to be just too much like work <me lazy>. So, I switched her to KMail and even found a way to export the PMMail contact list (still working on how to set all the 'categories' automatically depending on the original 'List' from PMMail, but that is another issue. The above is just an update for those of you that sent in some real significant help to me regarding this issue previously. Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop. I have looked for and cannot find a way to prevent this behavior. TBird DOES NOT do this, So far, only KMail 'steals' the session from the desktop FFox was in and slaps it into the same desktop as the one KMail is running in. I am pretty sure that if I had not had a stroke and my mental facility was up to speed, I might have already figured this out, but after a week of looking I seem no closer to finding the 'switch' to turn off this behavior in KMail. She is using Linux 10.3 with the Kmail 3.5.7 version release 72.6 I do not want to 'upgrade' to KDE4 stuff until it is *way* more stable than it is, especially with no guarantee that it would behave differently in this matter. In all other respects, it is running better than expected, well enough in fact for me to convert from TBird to KMail on my home system <grin>. Any help would be appreciated. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Richard Creighton wrote:
Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop.
I have looked for and cannot find a way to prevent this behavior. TBird DOES NOT do this, So far, only KMail 'steals' the session from the desktop FFox was in and slaps it into the same desktop as the one KMail is running in. I am pretty sure that if I had not had a stroke and my mental facility was up to speed, I might have already figured this out, but after a week of looking I seem no closer to finding the 'switch' to turn off this behavior in KMail.
Firefox supports startup notification and therefore the window manager moves it to the current desktop if there is a window (or tab) opening. That happens under Gnome's metacity and as you noticed also kwin. I consider this a bug. It's not completely clear if it's a bug in Firefox' startup notification code or in the window managers. What I wonder is that you say that opening a URI from within Thunderbird wouldn't cause that but for me it does and that's expected. Not the calling application controls that but the interaction between the window manager and Firefox. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 12:09:44 pm Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Richard Creighton wrote:
Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop.
I have looked for and cannot find a way to prevent this behavior. TBird DOES NOT do this, So far, only KMail 'steals' the session from the desktop FFox was in and slaps it into the same desktop as the one KMail is running in. I am pretty sure that if I had not had a stroke and my mental facility was up to speed, I might have already figured this out, but after a week of looking I seem no closer to finding the 'switch' to turn off this behavior in KMail.
Firefox supports startup notification and therefore the window manager moves it to the current desktop if there is a window (or tab) opening. That happens under Gnome's metacity and as you noticed also kwin.
I consider this a bug. It's not completely clear if it's a bug in Firefox' startup notification code or in the window managers. What I wonder is that you say that opening a URI from within Thunderbird wouldn't cause that but for me it does and that's expected. Not the calling application controls that but the interaction between the window manager and Firefox.
Wolfgang
That is correct, TBird has never moved the FF application to another window when *any* other application opens a window IF FF is already running in another window already....at least on my (and her) system(s). Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:33, Richard Creighton wrote:
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That is correct, TBird has never moved the FF application to another window when *any* other application opens a window IF FF is already running in another window already....at least on my (and her) system(s).
I wonder if this has to do, somehow, with the precise invocation KMail is using to hand off a URL to Firefox? According to the current configuration of my KDE file associations, for the MIME type text/html, this action is performed: /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox "openURL(%u)" I have never experienced the problem that Richard C. reports. (I have Firefox configured to open remotely dispatched URLs of this sort in a new tab in the current / most recently active window.)
Richard
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:33, Richard Creighton wrote:
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That is correct, TBird has never moved the FF application to another window when *any* other application opens a window IF FF is already running in another window already....at least on my (and her) system(s).
I wonder if this has to do, somehow, with the precise invocation KMail is using to hand off a URL to Firefox? According to the current configuration of my KDE file associations, for the MIME type text/html, this action is performed:
/opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox "openURL(%u)"
I have never experienced the problem that Richard C. reports. (I have Firefox configured to open remotely dispatched URLs of this sort in a new tab in the current / most recently active window.)
How old is your system? ;-) If you call /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client it must be from stone age or so. But anyway it's a serious question. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:50, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:33, Richard Creighton wrote:
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That is correct, TBird has never moved the FF application to another window when *any* other application opens a window IF FF is already running in another window already....at least on my (and her) system(s).
I wonder if this has to do, somehow, with the precise invocation KMail is using to hand off a URL to Firefox? According to the current configuration of my KDE file associations, for the MIME type text/html, this action is performed:
/opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox "openURL(%u)"
I have never experienced the problem that Richard C. reports. (I have Firefox configured to open remotely dispatched URLs of this sort in a new tab in the current / most recently active window.)
How old is your system? ;-) If you call /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client it must be from stone age or so. But anyway it's a serious question.
Why is it a serious question? The particular path name of the mozilla-xremote-client is not the point, it's the fact that this is how the URL is handed off between KMail and Firefox. Perhaps I should be using one of these other ones, but the per-user KDE associations probably don't get updated when Firefox does. % locate mozilla-xremote /etc/subdomain.d/opt.MozillaFirefox.lib.mozilla-xremote-client /home/rschulz/.IntelliJIdea70/system/HtmlPreview_1.0.8/mozilla-xremote-client /opt/mozilla/lib/mozilla-xremote-client /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client /usr/lib/nvu/mozilla-xremote-client /usr/lib/seamonkey/mozilla-xremote-client /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.8.0.1/mozilla-xremote-client /usr/local/firefox-2.0/mozilla-xremote-client Anyway, it's SuSE Linux 10.0 running Firefox 2.0.0.10 (they're not updating it anymore).
Wolfgang
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:50, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:33, Richard Creighton wrote:
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That is correct, TBird has never moved the FF application to another window when *any* other application opens a window IF FF is already running in another window already....at least on my (and her) system(s). I wonder if this has to do, somehow, with the precise invocation KMail is using to hand off a URL to Firefox? According to the current configuration of my KDE file associations, for the MIME type text/html, this action is performed:
/opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox "openURL(%u)"
I have never experienced the problem that Richard C. reports. (I have Firefox configured to open remotely dispatched URLs of this sort in a new tab in the current / most recently active window.) How old is your system? ;-) If you call /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client it must be from stone age or so. But anyway it's a serious question.
Why is it a serious question?
Anyway, it's SuSE Linux 10.0 running Firefox 2.0.0.10 (they're not updating it anymore).
It was a serious question because it explains why you've never seen the behaviour. Firefox on SUSE Linux 10.0 was never built with startup notification and therefore would never show the issue. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 14:42, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:50, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
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Anyway, it's SuSE Linux 10.0 running Firefox 2.0.0.10 (they're not updating it anymore).
It was a serious question because it explains why you've never seen the behaviour. Firefox on SUSE Linux 10.0 was never built with startup notification and therefore would never show the issue.
Well, I just did a quick test on my 10.3 system and I still don't see the problematic behavior Richard describes. No windows change desktops. If the target Firefox window is on a desktop other than the one with KMail, it stays there. If it's on the same desktop as KMail, it does come to the front, but does not change desktops.
Wolfgang
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On Friday 16 May 2008, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 14:42, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:50, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
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Anyway, it's SuSE Linux 10.0 running Firefox 2.0.0.10 (they're not updating it anymore).
It was a serious question because it explains why you've never seen the behaviour. Firefox on SUSE Linux 10.0 was never built with startup notification and therefore would never show the issue.
Well, I just did a quick test on my 10.3 system and I still don't see the problematic behavior Richard describes. No windows change desktops. If the target Firefox window is on a desktop other than the one with KMail, it stays there. If it's on the same desktop as KMail, it does come to the front, but does not change desktops.
Wolfgang
Randall Schulz
That sort of behaviour i believe is controled by the settings in the preferences section specifficslly the what to do when a lionk is clicked on part either open in a tab as i use Seamonkey (far better) or open in new window . Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) Bluewhite64 Linux 12.1 Slackware 12.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 01:50:48 pm Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:33, Richard Creighton wrote:
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That is correct, TBird has never moved the FF application to another window when *any* other application opens a window IF FF is already running in another window already....at least on my (and her) system(s).
I wonder if this has to do, somehow, with the precise invocation KMail is using to hand off a URL to Firefox? According to the current configuration of my KDE file associations, for the MIME type text/html, this action is performed:
/opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox "openURL(%u)"
I have never experienced the problem that Richard C. reports. (I have Firefox configured to open remotely dispatched URLs of this sort in a new tab in the current / most recently active window.)
How old is your system? ;-) If you call /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client it must be from stone age or so. But anyway it's a serious question.
Wolfgang
Fair question.... ASUS mbd less than 6 mos old running AMD 5000+ Dual 32/64 on 10.3 with 2.5 TB of drives on 9 disk drives using a combo of software and hardware RAID on SATA drives. I only have 4G of ram though. I use it as a testbed by running VMWare and VirtualBox, usually simultaneously for comparison purposes and on the VM's, occasionally run XP, but usually just Alpha/Beta Suse and other Distros, again for comparison purposes. It is not unusual to have 2 or 3 VM's plus the host 10.3 running with 'my music' (audacious) keeping me sane in the background :) This problem never appeared before, even in my older machines (I have 4 set up) or in my friends, until I installed KMail. So, I have to assume something in KMail does something to FFox that TBird doesn't do that makes it misbehave. I have used SuSE as my preferred distro since 9.3, so I am semi-new at SuSE, coming from Red-Hat previously. Before my stroke, I taught college level Linux courses and OS theory. The stroke really slowed me down and has given the mental ability of a grade-schooler except I still remember a fair amount about Linux/SuSE, but have trouble with short-term memory/learning new stuff. So troubleshooting stuff like this takes eons compared to before, but with your (all of you) help, it gets done, and I thank you. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 01:42:33 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 10:33, Richard Creighton wrote:
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That is correct, TBird has never moved the FF application to another window when *any* other application opens a window IF FF is already running in another window already....at least on my (and her) system(s).
I wonder if this has to do, somehow, with the precise invocation KMail is using to hand off a URL to Firefox? According to the current configuration of my KDE file associations, for the MIME type text/html, this action is performed:
/opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox "openURL(%u)"
I have never experienced the problem that Richard C. reports. (I have Firefox configured to open remotely dispatched URLs of this sort in a new tab in the current / most recently active window.)
Richard
Randall Schulz
I have always just invoked FFox using whatever defaults were set in the RPM that installed it. Same with TBird and KMail. As I reported a few minutes ago due to a suggestion received, by setting 'special applications' settings in FFox window itself, I can force the issue. Of course, it means FFox will always open in (in my case) desktop 4, but that is desired in my case. It might not be optimal for someone wanting FFox to open in 'any ole window' but as I leave it open 24x7 unless there is a power failure or I have a heart attack and have to leave with return uncertain :), having the browser open in a fixed location or having it always in a specific desktop is fine by me. It didn't make the problem disappear, it made the symptom disappear. TTYL Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 09:01, Richard Creighton wrote:
Hi all,
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Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop.
I have looked for and cannot find a way to prevent this behavior. TBird DOES NOT do this, So far, only KMail 'steals' the session from the desktop FFox was in and slaps it into the same desktop as the one KMail is running in. I am pretty sure that if I had not had a stroke and my mental facility was up to speed, I might have already figured this out, but after a week of looking I seem no closer to finding the 'switch' to turn off this behavior in KMail.
(A little less shouting, please.) I cannot definitely explain this, but my best guess would be that it's originating in KDE's Window-Specific-Settings feature. They're very fancy and powerful and can do all sorts of interesting things, though I can't say I know of a way to create the behavior you specify. I've never tried to and have not systematically or even casually explored those settings, just worked with them to get various behaviors I like, such has directing certain application's windows to certain desktops, forcing certain windows full-screen, suppressing certain applications from the ALT+TAB swither and / or from the taskbar, etc. So I'd start by looking in the KDE Control Center > Desktop > Window-Specific-Settings and looking for any settings that may be tied to the applications in question.
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Any help would be appreciated.
Richard
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Richard Creighton pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hi all,
Some years ago, I tried KMail and did not like it for various reasons and went to the Netscape/Mozilla packages and eventually to Thunderbird. Generally I am happy with TBird, but during the conversion from PMMail to TBird for my friend, I found it necessary to explore other options for her because TBird simply made it too hard to do the import. She had been using PMMail as a kind of a database program (which it could do with mail objects) and conversion of her contacts list and message base has proved very difficult.
During the exploration, I reexamined KMail and found that it is able to import the raw messages from PMMail without any problem IF I import just one folder at at time and move the messages into the KMail structure manually. TBird imported the same files as a Directory folder containing one *.MSG message which I had to move individually and then delete the folder which was difficult because TBird would not allow multiple folders to be selected. Because hundreds or thousands of messages were involved, that proved to be just too much like work <me lazy>. So, I switched her to KMail and even found a way to export the PMMail contact list (still working on how to set all the 'categories' automatically depending on the original 'List' from PMMail, but that is another issue.
The above is just an update for those of you that sent in some real significant help to me regarding this issue previously.
Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop.
I have looked for and cannot find a way to prevent this behavior. TBird DOES NOT do this, So far, only KMail 'steals' the session from the desktop FFox was in and slaps it into the same desktop as the one KMail is running in. I am pretty sure that if I had not had a stroke and my mental facility was up to speed, I might have already figured this out, but after a week of looking I seem no closer to finding the 'switch' to turn off this behavior in KMail.
She is using Linux 10.3 with the Kmail 3.5.7 version release 72.6 I do not want to 'upgrade' to KDE4 stuff until it is *way* more stable than it is, especially with no guarantee that it would behave differently in this matter. In all other respects, it is running better than expected, well enough in fact for me to convert from TBird to KMail on my home system <grin>.
Any help would be appreciated.
Richard
You should be able to set this in Edit-->Preferences--Tabbed Browsing and it will behave itself as long as Firefox is already open. If Firefox is _not_ already open it will open in the current window. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop.
Richard
I normally use four desktops and prefer to have at least Kmail on desktop 1 and Firefox on desktop 4. I disliked this above mentioned behavior very much myself and have solved this for me by giving Firefox a designated desktop.Same with Kmail. They both stay in their desktops and do not jump around any more ;). Right click on the top bar of Firefox / Kmail choose Advanced-->Special Application Settings...., and force the application to remain on its desktop. You will find it always where you put it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 12:36:59 pm Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop.
Richard
I normally use four desktops and prefer to have at least Kmail on desktop 1 and Firefox on desktop 4. I disliked this above mentioned behavior very much myself and have solved this for me by giving Firefox a designated desktop.Same with Kmail. They both stay in their desktops and do not jump around any more ;). Right click on the top bar of Firefox / Kmail choose Advanced-->Special Application Settings...., and force the application to remain on its desktop. You will find it always where you put it.
That is precicely my (and her) setup.... I puttzed around with the settings in that 'advanced-->special' thingy you suggested and I found that it took TWO settings to make it work the way it used to under TBird, but it WORKED!! Thank you. The settings I changed were: 1) In 'advanced--settings-->Geometry' where I checked 'Desktop' and selected '4' in my case. and 2) in ....-->Preferences' I had to select "Accept Focus" <Forced> {x} After that, it seems to work the way TBird does without having to set those options. I always used to have my FFox in Desktop 4 and it never moved before I installed KMail. For insurance, I did the same thing for KMail except I didn't have to do step (2) to make it work. Thanks very much to all who responded. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 12:16:56 pm Ken Schneider wrote:
Richard Creighton pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hi all,
Now for the real problem that remains and it doesn't involve PMMail at all, only KMail (or perhaps FireFox). Anytime she presses a URL in an EMAIL message to launch FireFox, it correctly does this EXCEPT that it launches it in the SAME WINDOW as KMAIL.... EVEN IF FIREFOX is ALREADY RUNNING in another window. If FF is already running, it 'steals' that session and moves it from whatever session window it was in to the session window that KMail is open in. In order to get it back, she has to move FFox to the original desktop window manually. As she often is using several desktops for various applications, browser, mail, editing documents, etc., it is disconcerting to have her browser 'jump' to her mail desktop.
I have looked for and cannot find a way to prevent this behavior. TBird DOES NOT do this, So far, only KMail 'steals' the session from the desktop FFox was in and slaps it into the same desktop as the one KMail is running in. I am pretty sure that if I had not had a stroke and my mental facility was up to speed, I might have already figured this out, but after a week of looking I seem no closer to finding the 'switch' to turn off this behavior in KMail.
Any help would be appreciated.
Richard
You should be able to set this in Edit-->Preferences--Tabbed Browsing and it will behave itself as long as Firefox is already open. If Firefox is _not_ already open it will open in the current window.
-- Ken Schneider
I assume you mean in FFox... That is done and in the case of TBird, it works as you describe. In KMail, it appears that KMail steals the FFox application to it's own desktop and then FFox opens the new URL in a new tab, as it should. The problem isn't that a new window is opening, it is that the existing window(s) and tabs are moved from one desktop to another. I believe the problem is in KMail or as some have suggested in KDE itself. Thank you Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Richard Creighton wrote:
I assume you mean in FFox... That is done and in the case of TBird, it works as you describe. In KMail, it appears that KMail steals the FFox application to it's own desktop and then FFox opens the new URL in a new tab, as it should. The problem isn't that a new window is opening, it is that the existing window(s) and tabs are moved from one desktop to another.
I believe the problem is in KMail or as some have suggested in KDE itself.
As said I noticed that in Gnome since I don't use KDE. There is a bugreport for it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=231334 I don't know about the behaviour in KDE but I suspect it's also a window manager (kwin) thing. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 May 2008 01:52:56 pm Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Richard Creighton wrote:
I assume you mean in FFox... That is done and in the case of TBird, it works as you describe. In KMail, it appears that KMail steals the FFox application to it's own desktop and then FFox opens the new URL in a new tab, as it should. The problem isn't that a new window is opening, it is that the existing window(s) and tabs are moved from one desktop to another.
I believe the problem is in KMail or as some have suggested in KDE itself.
As said I noticed that in Gnome since I don't use KDE. There is a bugreport for it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=231334
I don't know about the behaviour in KDE but I suspect it's also a window manager (kwin) thing.
Wolfgang
I think you have just identified the problem as a FIREFOX problem if both Gnome and KDE exhibit the same problem? Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Richard Creighton wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008 01:52:56 pm Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Richard Creighton wrote:
I assume you mean in FFox... That is done and in the case of TBird, it works as you describe. In KMail, it appears that KMail steals the FFox application to it's own desktop and then FFox opens the new URL in a new tab, as it should. The problem isn't that a new window is opening, it is that the existing window(s) and tabs are moved from one desktop to another.
I believe the problem is in KMail or as some have suggested in KDE itself. As said I noticed that in Gnome since I don't use KDE. There is a bugreport for it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=231334
I don't know about the behaviour in KDE but I suspect it's also a window manager (kwin) thing.
Wolfgang
I think you have just identified the problem as a FIREFOX problem if both Gnome and KDE exhibit the same problem?
Gnome developers don't think so what you would know if you'd have followed the Novell bug and the reference to the Gnome bug. Do you really think that because metacity and kwin behaves the same it can't be their fault? (My WindowMaker behaves correctly with Firefox so it can't be a Firefox issue. (ok, this implication is wrong (as is yours)) *SCNR* Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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