install rpm using yast
I like to stick to one method of installing software and upgrades/downgrades. so far yast has been pretty good about it. but lately when i right click on an rpm file and select "install rpm using yast", it does not want to work. somehow the dependencies window never pops up and i have to manually "rpm -Uvh......" putting the directory of the file in the yast installation source does not seem to have any effect. the os issuse 9.2-x64, downloaded from ftp site, up to date with "you". anybody seen this before?
On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:35, kanenas wrote:
I like to stick to one method of installing software and upgrades/downgrades. so far yast has been pretty good about it. but lately when i right click on an rpm file and select "install rpm using yast", it does not want to work. somehow the dependencies window never pops up and i have to manually "rpm -Uvh......" putting the directory of the file in the yast installation source does not seem to have any effect. the os issuse 9.2-x64, downloaded from ftp site, up to date with "you". anybody seen this before?
Yep, this Newbie. I've given up on Yast now. A couple of months ago it suddenly went AWOL, and I'm too nervous to try to fix such an integral part of SuSE. One day I'll just trash my system and start over - like I used to with M$ Disappointing... Good luck, Colin
On Friday 06 May 2005 16:54, Colin Carter wrote:
On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:35, kanenas wrote:
I like to stick to one method of installing software and upgrades/downgrades. so far yast has been pretty good about it. but lately when i right click on an rpm file and select "install rpm using yast", it does not want to work. somehow the dependencies window never pops up and i have to manually "rpm -Uvh......" putting the directory of the file in the yast installation source does not seem to have any effect. the os issuse 9.2-x64, downloaded from ftp site, up to date with "you". anybody seen this before?
Yep, this Newbie. I've given up on Yast now. A couple of months ago it suddenly went AWOL, and I'm too nervous to try to fix such an integral part of SuSE. One day I'll just trash my system and start over - like I used to with M$ Disappointing... Good luck, Colin
Colin, First, thank you for confirming another instance of the "problem". Second, i would like to pass some advise. Please don't start rantings that divert threads, it serves no purpose. If you want to crab about Yast or Suse or Linux, please go somewhere else. I have been watching this forum for a couple of years now, posted answers very few times. Most of the stuff I don't read, but I have found that in most cases the solution to the impossible is a couple of thread entries away, or maybe a hundred. windoze newbies, raised on instant gratification and similar nonsense, can't deal with that. I *like* my Yast. It is perfectly capable of handling just about all I have asked of it, maybe more. so telling me that Yast is *no good* reduces your credibility in my corner. Fyi, it was by accident that I found how to downgrade an installed version of an rpm in Yast, since then I have used it exclusively for any upgrade / installation for the past 4 years. The glitch i found in my first 64 bit os does not bother me an awful lot. However it is one of the few things that are not 100% to my satisfaction, so i asked for help. If help comes, I will be thankful. If not, and if it bothers me too much, I might end up trying to solve the problem myself. Then I will post it. That's the way it works. not by rebooting / reinstalling. Every day I have a laugh with my 16 year old, when I get home I ask the question: "What is it now, a windoze reinstall or a bios re-flash?" With him and his water cooled quest for speed it's one of the two almost every day. Patiently I wait for the day he will take the linux / bsd challenge, it is inevitable. ok, back to the topic. just how do you get the same problem?
On Saturday 07 May 2005 17:16, kanenas wrote:
On Friday 06 May 2005 16:54, Colin Carter wrote:
On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:35, kanenas wrote:
I like to stick to one method of installing software and upgrades/downgrades. so far yast has been pretty good about it. but lately when i right click on an rpm file and select "install rpm using yast", it does not want to work. somehow the dependencies window never pops up and i have to manually "rpm -Uvh......" putting the directory of the file in the yast installation source does not seem to have any effect. the os issuse 9.2-x64, downloaded from ftp site, up to date with "you". anybody seen this before?
Yep, this Newbie. I've given up on Yast now. A couple of months ago it suddenly went AWOL, and I'm too nervous to try to fix such an integral part of SuSE. One day I'll just trash my system and start over - like I used to with M$ Disappointing... Good luck, Colin
Colin, First, thank you for confirming another instance of the "problem". Second, i would like to pass some advise. Please don't start rantings that divert threads, it serves no purpose. If you want to crab about Yast or Suse or snip with that. I *like* my Yast. It is perfectly capable of handling just about snip> The glitch i found in my first 64 bit os does not bother me an awful lot. However it is one of the few things that are not 100% to my satisfaction, snip ok, back to the topic. just how do you get the same problem?
Well, Yast opens, then I read "configuring..., please wait, it make take some time." and then Yast vanishes, and nothing is installed. When I open Yast and 'search' or display it only shows everything as checked. Whether it is installed or not, it shows as checked! If I attempt an 'install' on an item it does exactly the same as manual installation. If this is 'normal' then I have no idea how to use it. Regards, Colin
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 00:41 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
On Saturday 07 May 2005 17:16, kanenas wrote:
Colin, First, thank you for confirming another instance of the "problem". Second, i would like to pass some advise. Please don't start rantings that divert threads, it serves no purpose. If you want to crab about Yast or Suse or snip with that. I *like* my Yast. It is perfectly capable of handling just about snip> The glitch i found in my first 64 bit os does not bother me an awful lot. However it is one of the few things that are not 100% to my satisfaction, snip ok, back to the topic. just how do you get the same problem?
Well, Yast opens, then I read "configuring..., please wait, it make take some time." and then Yast vanishes, and nothing is installed.
When I open Yast and 'search' or display it only shows everything as checked. Whether it is installed or not, it shows as checked! If I attempt an 'install' on an item it does exactly the same as manual installation. If this is 'normal' then I have no idea how to use it.
This usually means the the "Source of Installation" has been lost. Go into YaST-->Change Source of Installation and check to make sure the CD/DVD entry is there. If there are no entries then re-create them. This should bring back the list of not installed packages. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 00:41 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
On Saturday 07 May 2005 17:16, kanenas wrote:
Colin, snip > Well, Yast opens, then I read "configuring..., please wait, it make take some time." and then Yast vanishes, and nothing is installed. When I open Yast and 'search' or display it only shows everything as checked. Whether it is installed or not, it shows as checked! If I attempt an 'install' on an item it does exactly the same as manual installation. If this is 'normal' then I have no idea how to use it.
This usually means the the "Source of Installation" has been lost. Go into YaST-->Change Source of Installation and check to make sure the CD/DVD entry is there. If there are no entries then re-create them. This should bring back the list of not installed packages. Thanks Ken. My sources are: Off SUSE LINUX Version 9.1 dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdg,/dev/hdh On dir:///media/dvdrecorder/ dir:///media/dvdrecorder All of the above dvdrecorder, hdg and hdh exist. But the semi-colon is used in one place while a comma is used in the other; is this okay? I didn't set either of these lines, but I did check them some months ago and
On Sunday 08 May 2005 00:47, Ken Schneider wrote: thought that they were okay.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge Thanks again Ken, Colin
Colin Carter wrote:
My sources are: Off SUSE LINUX Version 9.1 dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdg,/dev/hdh
Enable this one.
On dir:///media/dvdrecorder/ dir:///media/dvdrecorder All of the above dvdrecorder, hdg and hdh exist.
/media/dvdrecorder is just the mounted dvd, which is almost the same as the above. I would remove it.
But the semi-colon is used in one place while a comma is used in the other; is this okay?
Yes. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 02:44 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 00:47, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 00:41 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
On Saturday 07 May 2005 17:16, kanenas wrote:
Colin, snip > Well, Yast opens, then I read "configuring..., please wait, it make take some time." and then Yast vanishes, and nothing is installed. When I open Yast and 'search' or display it only shows everything as checked. Whether it is installed or not, it shows as checked! If I attempt an 'install' on an item it does exactly the same as manual installation. If this is 'normal' then I have no idea how to use it.
This usually means the the "Source of Installation" has been lost. Go into YaST-->Change Source of Installation and check to make sure the CD/DVD entry is there. If there are no entries then re-create them. This should bring back the list of not installed packages. Thanks Ken. My sources are: Off SUSE LINUX Version 9.1 dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdg,/dev/hdh On dir:///media/dvdrecorder/ dir:///media/dvdrecorder All of the above dvdrecorder, hdg and hdh exist. But the semi-colon is used in one place while a comma is used in the other; is this okay? Try changing the first one to on.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Ken and Joe, many thanks. On Sunday 08 May 2005 03:22, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
My sources are: Off SUSE LINUX Version 9.1 dvd:///;devices=/dev/hdg,/dev/hdh Enable this one. I did (thanks to both)
On dir:///media/dvdrecorder/ dir:///media/dvdrecorder All of the above dvdrecorder, hdg and hdh exist. /media/dvdrecorder is just the mounted dvd, which is almost the same as the above. I would remove it. I switched it off.
Results: Now Yast shows some installed, some not installed; as expected. Now I am puzzled as to from where cameth the second line, because, as a newbie there is no way I would have added this line (which I didn't understand) by myself, and I don't remember anybody advising me to do so. Nevermind, all fixed. However, I must ask, during installation I did not request Perl (nor some other stuff) yet some of it seems to be there. Are these bits just default installation? And, since I have been installing rpm files, most of which seem to be seen by Yast, do I need to "refresh" Yast in some way. For example, Yast cannot seem to see the canna libraries (unless it is under a different name). Do I always have to insert the installation disk (hope not) if I use Yast to install an rpm? Thanks fellows, I really appreciate your responses/practical help. Colin
Colin Carter wrote:
Results: Now Yast shows some installed, some not installed; as expected.
Good
Now I am puzzled as to from where cameth the second line, because, as a newbie there is no way I would have added this line (which I didn't understand) by myself, and I don't remember anybody advising me to do so. Nevermind, all fixed.
Delete it then.
However, I must ask, during installation I did not request Perl (nor some other stuff) yet some of it seems to be there. Are these bits just default installation?
Yes. There are many package interdependencies, and many packages need different perl modules, i.e. spamassassin.
And, since I have been installing rpm files, most of which seem to be seen by Yast, do I need to "refresh" Yast in some way. For example, Yast cannot seem to see the canna libraries (unless it is under a different name).
You can search in different ways. I have never heard of the canna libraries (doesn't mean much). If it is not installed, you should install pin and use it as well. It is quite a handy app to look for a certain package.
Do I always have to insert the installation disk (hope not) if I use Yast to install an rpm?
Unless you add an online source for the rpms, yes. If you want to copy the DVD to your HD and use that, add it as a source. If you want an online source (and you do not have 9.3), just add a mirror. If you have 9.3, just wait a few weeks. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Sunday 08 May 2005 13:57, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Results: Now Yast shows some installed, some not installed; as expected. Good
Now I am puzzled as to from where cameth the second line, because, Delete it then. Done. However, I must ask, during installation I did not request Perl (nor some other stuff) yet some of it seems to be there. Are these bits just default installation?
Yes. There are many package interdependencies, and many packages need different perl modules, i.e. spamassassin. Okay. Thanks, I hadn't thought of that 'minor' issue :)
And, since I have been installing rpm files, most of which seem to be seen by Yast, do I need to "refresh" Yast in some way. For example, Yast cannot seem to see the canna libraries (unless it is under a different name).
You can search in different ways. I have never heard of the canna libraries (doesn't mean much). If it is not installed, you should install pin and use it as well. It is quite a handy app to look for a certain package. canna holds libraries for X11 development; I discovered - the hard way. Yes, I have pin and used it (but Yast had auto-installed it).
Do I always have to insert the installation disk (hope not) if I use Yast to install an rpm?
Unless you add an online source for the rpms, yes. If you want to copy the DVD to your HD and use that, add it as a source. If you want an online source (and you do not have 9.3), just add a mirror. If you have 9.3, just wait a few weeks. Thanks for your ideas/suggestions. I wasn't planning on going 9.3 but I have been recently considering same. Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871 PS: I see a lot of the more experienced guys have "Registered Linux user" appended. Where are you registered? What is the significance? Effect on a Newbie?
Regards, and many thanks for your feedback. Colin
Oh, waitaminute y'all!!! This thread has been highjacked!!! I started the thread, asking for help on installing downloaded rpms with yast!!!!!! I am glad Colin is getting his help, but can anyone shed some light on what might be amiss if i right click on a downloaded rpm file, click on install with yast and a subsequent failure? That's on Suse 9.2-X64, with every other aspect of yast running great!!!! On Saturday 07 May 2005 18:17, Colin Carter wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 13:57, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Results: Now Yast shows some installed, some not installed; as expected.
Good
Now I am puzzled as to from where cameth the second line, because,
Delete it then.
Done.
However, I must ask, during installation I did not request Perl (nor some other stuff) yet some of it seems to be there. Are these bits just default installation?
Yes. There are many package interdependencies, and many packages need different perl modules, i.e. spamassassin.
Okay. Thanks, I hadn't thought of that 'minor' issue :)
And, since I have been installing rpm files, most of which seem to be seen by Yast, do I need to "refresh" Yast in some way. For example, Yast cannot seem to see the canna libraries (unless it is under a different name).
You can search in different ways. I have never heard of the canna libraries (doesn't mean much). If it is not installed, you should install pin and use it as well. It is quite a handy app to look for a certain package.
canna holds libraries for X11 development; I discovered - the hard way. Yes, I have pin and used it (but Yast had auto-installed it).
Do I always have to insert the installation disk (hope not) if I use Yast to install an rpm?
Unless you add an online source for the rpms, yes. If you want to copy the DVD to your HD and use that, add it as a source. If you want an online source (and you do not have 9.3), just add a mirror. If you have 9.3, just wait a few weeks.
Thanks for your ideas/suggestions. I wasn't planning on going 9.3 but I have been recently considering same.
Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
PS: I see a lot of the more experienced guys have "Registered Linux user" appended. Where are you registered? What is the significance? Effect on a Newbie?
Regards, and many thanks for your feedback. Colin
On Sunday 08 May 2005 16:52, kanenas wrote:
Oh, waitaminute y'all!!! This thread has been highjacked!!! I started the thread, asking for help on installing downloaded rpms with yast!!!!!! I am glad Colin is getting his help, but can anyone shed some light on what might be amiss if i right click on a downloaded rpm file, click on install with yast and a subsequent failure? That's on Suse 9.2-X64, with every other aspect of yast running great!!!!
Sorry mate. I feel really guilty. I guess that you saw that my problem seems to have been a botched up source. So I guess that that is not your problem. Sorry I'm no help to you. Regards, Colin
Colin Carter wrote:
Registered Linux user 231871
PS: I see a lot of the more experienced guys have "Registered Linux user" appended. Where are you registered? http://counter.li.org/ What is the significance?
Just helps a bit to accurately reflect Linux usage.
Effect on a Newbie? None, except for knowing you are counted, which helps against the false claims as "It's not worth it to program for Linux, or also write a Linux driver" because it is a waste for so few. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
kanenas wrote:
Oh, waitaminute y'all!!! This thread has been highjacked!!!
Sorry, so much mail moving through its so easy to miss.
I started the thread, asking for help on installing downloaded rpms with yast!!!!!! I am glad Colin is getting his help, but can anyone shed some light on what might be amiss if i right click on a downloaded rpm file, click on install with yast and a subsequent failure? That's on Suse 9.2-X64, with every other aspect of yast running great!!!!
If I am understanding you correctly, it must be a bug as I have seen it here too (9.2, x86_64). On mine, if you try what you suggested above, it may also reinstall the original rpm. My workaround is to always use kpackage. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Sunday 08 May 2005 22:06, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Colin Carter wrote:
Registered Linux user 231871 PS: I see a lot of the more experienced guys have "Registered Linux user" appended. Where are you registered? http://counter.li.org/ What is the significance? Just helps a bit to accurately reflect Linux usage. Effect on a Newbie? None, except for knowing you are counted, which helps against the false claims as "It's not worth it to program for Linux, or also write a Linux driver" because it is a waste for so few. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871 I'm in: user 389397 Regards, Colin
Did that years ago with something similar . I have no idea what my 'number is' That email and isp is long history.
The Sunday 2005-05-08 at 23:05 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 22:06, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
None, except for knowing you are counted, which helps against the false claims as "It's not worth it to program for Linux, or also write a Linux driver" because it is a waste for so few.
I'm in: user 389397
Mmm. If that is the number of linux users in the whole world, no one will make software for Linux. I don't see that registration doing a difference. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2005-05-08 at 23:05 +1000, Colin Carter wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 22:06, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
None, except for knowing you are counted, which helps against the false claims as "It's not worth it to program for Linux, or also write a Linux driver" because it is a waste for so few.
I'm in: user 389397
Mmm. If that is the number of linux users in the whole world, no one will make software for Linux. I don't see that registration doing a difference.
I just registered again, the second time since the counter got going and the reply email says you should login at least once per year to avoid being deleted. I wondered why my registration of many years ago wasn't there. It was a useful guage way back, but now it's meaningless. I'm now 389545 and I've been involved with Linux since October 1991 and I wonder how many times that number has been handed out. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks
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