[opensuse] Connecting two computers with the same IP

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Oszkó Albert

2 Feb 2013 2 Feb '13

20:23

Hi all, I would like to move data between two computers. One is a box running oS 12.2 and is connected to a router via cable. The other computer (netbook with oS 12.1 or android ICS tablet) connects to the same router via wifi. Asking whatismyip in a browser gives the same result, so setting up and ftp connection based on IP is not possible. So how can I share data between the machines? I mean without connecting them with a cord. Thanks and best regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Dennis Gallien

2 Feb 2 Feb

20:52

On Sat, Feb 2 09:23:59 PM Oszkó Albert wrote:

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Hi all,

I would like to move data between two computers. One is a box running oS 12.2 and is connected to a router via cable. The other computer (netbook with oS 12.1 or android ICS tablet) connects to the same router via wifi. Asking whatismyip in a browser gives the same result, so setting up and ftp connection based on IP is not possible. So how can I share data between the machines? I mean without connecting them with a cord.

Thanks and best regards, Albert

whatismyip will return your WAN address which is owned by the router. Each of your clients using the router will have its own LAN address. There are many ways to share data on a LAN. Probably the most common is samba/cifs; which uses a share name like Windows. If you want to use ftp, you can use the LAN address. Or you can set up NFS, too. Or there are programs like rsync. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott

21:43

Oszkó Albert wrote:

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Hi all,

I would like to move data between two computers. One is a box running oS 12.2 and is connected to a router via cable. The other computer (netbook with oS 12.1 or android ICS tablet) connects to the same router via wifi. Asking whatismyip in a browser gives the same result, so setting up and ftp connection based on IP is not possible. So how can I share data between the machines? I mean without connecting them with a cord.

That server shows both computers have the same IP address because your router/firewall is using something called Network Address Translation, which allows multiple devices to share one public address. However, there is also an address range on your local network that is used by your devices. It will often start with 192.168. Open a command prompt and issue the command /sbin/ifconfig to see the address on your computer. There are Android utilities that show the IP address of an Android device. However, that netbook should get the same address with either Linux or Android running. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

21:47

* Oszkó Albert [02-02-13 15:28]:

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I would like to move data between two computers. One is a box running oS 12.2 and is connected to a router via cable. The other computer (netbook with oS 12.1 or android ICS tablet) connects to the same router via wifi. Asking whatismyip in a browser gives the same result, so setting up and ftp connection based on IP is not possible. So how can I share data between the machines? I mean without connecting them with a cord.

Both computers have the same *external* address, outside your router, but not the same within your *local* network inside your router. You can see which local address each computer has by: as root ifconfig |grep inet\ addr\: will return something like: inet addr:192.168.1.10 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 where 192.168.1.10 is the address of that computer as assigned by your router, or as you told your router to assign. to access this box from the *other* computer, ssh -Y <user>@192.168.1.10 or use dolphin and smb://<user>@192.168.1.10 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Oszkó Albert

3 Feb 3 Feb

10:36

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2013-02-02 22:47 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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* Oszkó Albert [02-02-13 15:28]:

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I would like to move data between two computers. One is a box running oS 12.2 and is connected to a router via cable. The other computer (netbook with oS 12.1 or android ICS tablet) connects to the same router via wifi. Asking whatismyip in a browser gives the same result, so setting up and ftp connection based on IP is not possible. So how can I share data between the machines? I mean without connecting them with a cord.

Both computers have the same *external* address, outside your router, but not the same within your *local* network inside your router. You can see which local address each computer has by:

as root ifconfig |grep inet\ addr\:

will return something like: inet addr:192.168.1.10 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0

where 192.168.1.10 is the address of that computer as assigned by your router, or as you told your router to assign.

to access this box from the *other* computer, ssh -Y <user>@192.168.1.10

or use dolphin and smb://<user>@192.168.1.10

Hi all, Thank you for the tips. I learned again something. But unfortunately it does not wotk yet. I am trying with the two oS machines, got the two 192.168.X.X addresses, but did not manage to connect. Tied with ssh and samba. The command returns with connection timeout. Something else should also be enabled or installed? Regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Bogdan Cristea

10:46

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On Sunday 03 February 2013 11:36:47 Oszkó Albert wrote:

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Thank you for the tips. I learned again something. But unfortunately it does not wotk yet. I am trying with the two oS machines, got the two 192.168.X.X addresses, but did not manage to connect. Tied with ssh and samba. The command returns with connection timeout. Something else should also be enabled or installed?

You need to have either an ssh server activated and the corresponding port opened in the firewall or to use rsync. -- Bogdan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Oszkó Albert

11:14

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2013-02-03 11:46 keltezéssel, Bogdan Cristea írta:

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On Sunday 03 February 2013 11:36:47 Oszkó Albert wrote:

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Thank you for the tips. I learned again something. But unfortunately it does not wotk yet. I am trying with the two oS machines, got the two 192.168.X.X addresses, but did not manage to connect. Tied with ssh and samba. The command returns with connection timeout. Something else should also be enabled or installed?

You need to have either an ssh server activated and the corresponding port opened in the firewall or to use rsync.

Thanks, it works fine now. Just had to allow it in the firewall. Regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott

13:31

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Oszkó Albert wrote:

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Thank you for the tips. I learned again something. But unfortunately it does not wotk yet. I am trying with the two oS machines, got the two 192.168.X.X addresses, but did not manage to connect. Tied with ssh and samba. The command returns with connection timeout. Something else should also be enabled or installed?

Have you enabled the servers? Also, try pinging the addresses, to make sure you can reach the computer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Oszkó Albert

15:20

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2013-02-03 14:31 keltezéssel, James Knott írta:

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Oszkó Albert wrote:

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Thank you for the tips. I learned again something. But unfortunately it does not wotk yet. I am trying with the two oS machines, got the two 192.168.X.X addresses, but did not manage to connect. Tied with ssh and samba. The command returns with connection timeout. Something else should also be enabled or installed?

Have you enabled the servers? Also, try pinging the addresses, to make sure you can reach the computer.

Well, I still have problems. Pinging from the fix device toward the mobile one is rather delayed, The answer comes back 3-4 sec later And in dolphin samba does not work. The other direction has 1 ms times. Enabled samba server and client in the firewall. Typing smb:/user@192.168.x.x immediately gives connection timeout. Regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

16:09

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* Oszkó Albert [01-01-70 12:34]: [...]

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Well, I still have problems. Pinging from the fix device toward the mobile one is rather delayed, The answer comes back 3-4 sec later And in dolphin samba does not work. The other direction has 1 ms times. Enabled samba server and client in the firewall. Typing smb:/user@192.168.x.x immediately gives connection timeout.

You have slow wireless ?? or other probs. Quick fix: plug remote box into router with cat5/6 cable, chk new address. Do your file tranfers and unplug. But other probs: Did you enable samba service? systemctl start smb.service systemctl status smb.service -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Oszkó Albert

16:27

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2013-02-03 17:09 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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* Oszkó Albert [01-01-70 12:34]: [...]

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Well, I still have problems. Pinging from the fix device toward the mobile one is rather delayed, The answer comes back 3-4 sec later And in dolphin samba does not work. The other direction has 1 ms times. Enabled samba server and client in the firewall. Typing smb:/user@192.168.x.x immediately gives connection timeout.

You have slow wireless ?? or other probs.

Quick fix: plug remote box into router with cat5/6 cable, chk new address. Do your file tranfers and unplug.

But other probs: Did you enable samba service? systemctl start smb.service systemctl status smb.service

I think samba is running: smb.service - LSB: Samba SMB/CIFS file and print server Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/smb) Active: active (running) since Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:32:30 +0100; 1h 53min ago CGroup: name=systemd:/system/smb.service ├ 1592 /usr/sbin/smbd -D -s /etc/samba/smb.conf └ 1850 /usr/sbin/smbd -D -s /etc/samba/smb.conf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Oszkó Albert

17:36

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2013-02-03 17:27 keltezéssel, Oszkó Albert írta:

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2013-02-03 17:09 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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* Oszkó Albert [01-01-70 12:34]: [...]

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Well, I still have problems. Pinging from the fix device toward the mobile one is rather delayed, The answer comes back 3-4 sec later And in dolphin samba does not work. The other direction has 1 ms times. Enabled samba server and client in the firewall. Typing smb:/user@192.168.x.x immediately gives connection timeout.

You have slow wireless ?? or other probs.

Quick fix: plug remote box into router with cat5/6 cable, chk new address. Do your file tranfers and unplug.

But other probs: Did you enable samba service? systemctl start smb.service systemctl status smb.service

I think samba is running:

smb.service - LSB: Samba SMB/CIFS file and print server Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/smb) Active: active (running) since Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:32:30 +0100; 1h 53min ago CGroup: name=systemd:/system/smb.service ├ 1592 /usr/sbin/smbd -D -s /etc/samba/smb.conf └ 1850 /usr/sbin/smbd -D -s /etc/samba/smb.conf I think there is need to set samba server in Yast. Minor success until now, but far from the goal.

Regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Rajko

19:51

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:36:25 +0100 Oszkó Albert wrote:

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I think there is need to set samba server in Yast. Minor success until now, but far from the goal.

Enable samba ports and enable SMB broadcasting in a YaST Firewall. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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