[SLE] Yast and Zen have different idea about updates?
Hi all, I have noticed a situation in which both Yast and Zen see the same packages, but give different indications about which is the most up-to-date. According to the Zen updater, there is an update available for kipi-plugins. (I know this update has been available for some time now, but I have not updated it yet). According to the Zen details, update version: 0.1.0rc1-19 installed version: 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1 However, I have been doing most of my updates through Yast. When I look at this package in Yast Online Update, I see the following versions are available 0.1.0rc1-19 (from the DVD) 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1 (from Packman) <-- Installed version According to Yast however, there is no update available. The installed version is the most up-to-date. So I have two questions... 1) Which of these is correct? 2) Is this a bug in either Zen or Yast, or is this a problem specific to the kipi-plugins package. For anyone interested (not a large number I am quite sure), I have included some additional information below which, while possibly related, doesn't really change any issues raised above. ---------------- In Yast Online Update, under Change log for kipi-plugins-0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1 the first listing is an update to 0.1.0-rc1 in Nov 2005 which seems to indicate that 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1 supercedes 0.1.0-rc1. However, according to http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kipi/ "The most stable KipiPlugins tarball is version 0.1.0-rc2" So this would seem to indicate that Zen got this right in this situation (see below). As a final note, there is another version 0.1.0rc2-11.4 from http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/Backports/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586/ which also shows up under Yast but not under Zen because that repository does not seem to be listed when I run "rug sl". I didn't include this in the above since that behavior didn't change if I remove this repository from Yast. Yast still indicates that 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1 is the most up to date. -- Don -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
* Don Raboud
According to the Zen details, update version: 0.1.0rc1-19 installed version: 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1
However, I have been doing most of my updates through Yast. When I look at this package in Yast Online Update, I see the following versions are available 0.1.0rc1-19 (from the DVD) 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1 (from Packman) <-- Installed version
11:57 wahoo:~ > smart query kipi-plugins Loading cache... Updating cache... ################################################################ [100%] kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc1-19@i586 kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc1-19@x86_64 kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc2-11.3@x86_64 kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc2-11.4@i586 kipi-plugins-0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1@i586 http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/Backports/SUSE_Linux_10.... (6.6MB) -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Thursday 27 July 2006 9:59 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Don Raboud
[07-27-06 11:51]: According to the Zen details, update version: 0.1.0rc1-19 installed version: 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1
However, I have been doing most of my updates through Yast. When I look at this package in Yast Online Update, I see the following versions are available 0.1.0rc1-19 (from the DVD) 0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1 (from Packman) <-- Installed version
11:57 wahoo:~ > smart query kipi-plugins Loading cache... Updating cache... ################################################################ [100%]
kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc1-19@i586 kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc1-19@x86_64 kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc2-11.3@x86_64 kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc2-11.4@i586 kipi-plugins-0.1.0_0.1-1.pm.1@i586
http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/Backports/SUSE_Linux_10 .1/i586/kipi-plugins-0.1.0rc2-11.4.i586.rpm (6.6MB)
Thanks Patrick. I've not used smart but from what you post I take this to mean that Yast is correct and that Zen wants to update this package with an older version. Is this then (yet another) bug in Zen? -- Don -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
* Don Raboud
Thanks Patrick. I've not used smart but from what you post I take this to mean that Yast is correct and that Zen wants to update this package with an older version.
Is this then (yet another) bug in Zen?
I do not know, but my experiences with the *new* yast/zen have not been the best. BUT, I have had problems with smart missing dependencies and mixing incompatible versions when updating, ie: yast* and xorg.x11*. My system still has problems.... but is operable -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
I'm still understanding zmd/rug, but seems to work for me.... a good place to start is: http://en.opensuse.org/Rug Two good things about rug are: 1. the possibility to go back in time (your packages) with checkpoints; 2. the history about updates/installs "rug --help" is highly recommended... maybe if rug was integrated into yast, the transition "YOU to zmd" was easier.... _________________________________________________________ Lawrence Ferreira AIX, HP-UX and SuSE Linux Enterprise Server Administrator LINUX User (openSUSE-10.1 & SLES9) #271016 LPIC-1 - Linux Certified Professional Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Don Raboud
[07-27-06 12:10]: Thanks Patrick. I've not used smart but from what you post I take this to mean that Yast is correct and that Zen wants to update this package with an older version.
Is this then (yet another) bug in Zen?
I do not know, but my experiences with the *new* yast/zen have not been the best. BUT, I have had problems with smart missing dependencies and mixing incompatible versions when updating, ie: yast* and xorg.x11*.
My system still has problems.... but is operable
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Don Raboud
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Lawrence Ferreira
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Patrick Shanahan