On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:32:33 -0700 John Andersen wrote:

Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:

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2. smtp authentication: No encryption and plaintext.

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Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different

Kmail has a button that says "Check what the server provides".

Click it.

==== Hi John, Then come this error message: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support TLS. Disable TLS, if you want to connect without encryption. The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com ". Because it automatically chosed the TLS. If I choese 'none' encryption with 'no smtp authentication', the error message will be: " Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: feybe_k@yahoo.com (The server responded: "5.7.1 : Relay access denied") The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com ". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:02:37 +0930 Rodney Baker wrote:

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:49:03 Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: [...]

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The error message on my KMail is: " Sending failed: Your SMTP server does not support The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure". Choose a different authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure" The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages? "

Thank you very much in advance. [...]

Your SMTP server does not support the authentication method you're using. Try turning SMTP authentication off altogether in Kmail.

=== RB>Then, this is the error message: " Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: feybe_k@yahoo.com (The server responded: "5.7.1 : Relay access denied") The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com ". It also the same everytime I sent to any email address. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:22:59 +0200 Per Jessen wrote:

Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:

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"Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: feybe_k@yahoo.com (The server responded: "5.7.1 : Relay access denied") The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport was used: mygoogle.com

I think that is trying to tell you that you are not authorized to use the outgoing server. Presumably because you have not authenticated yourself.

RB>But I have created the linux userlogin and the password. The RB>incoming mail server authenticated me but why I can not use the RB>outgoing mail server. RB>After the failed email sending from KMail of my linux box (client RB> computer connected to another ISP with an private-IP from DHCP RB> Server of my ISP), I've checked the logfile of my Postfix on mail RB> server side: sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: start interval Oct 1 22:58:45 Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: domain lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: address lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:03:20 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: connect from unknown[111.94.12.63] Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[111.94.12.63]: 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: disconnect from unknown[111.94.12.63] sussy:/var/log # RB>As information, I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is only the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has RB>been setup on my mail/web server. I just replaced every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hackers, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:02:00 +0200 Per Jessen wrote:

Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:

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==> /var/log/mail <== Oct 1 23:03:20 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support

As you are presumably trying to connect to your outbound server using SASL (userid+password), it makes sense that the connection requires TLS. However, your system does not appear to be set up for using TLS ?

/Per

RB>Dear Per Jessen. Please CMIIW, so you are meaning: if the scheme is: RB>I want to use the userid+password for sending email though outbound RB>server (with the basic config from suse) than I have to setup TLS on RB>my mail server? Is it like that, Per? Please CMIIW. RB>Currently, Yes my mail server does not have TLS setup on it. You're RB>right. RB>If then, than I need to lookup the documentation how to setup TLS RB>on postfix. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 01 October 2009 12:17:53 pm Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote:

RB>Dear Per Jessen. Please CMIIW, so you are meaning: if the scheme is: RB>I want to use the userid+password for sending email though outbound RB>server (with the basic config from suse) than I have to setup TLS on RB>my mail server? Is it like that, Per? Please CMIIW.

RB>Currently, Yes my mail server does not have TLS setup on it. You're RB>right.

RB>If then, than I need to lookup the documentation how to setup TLS RB>on postfix.

Ricky, I have a pretty good opensuse server setup page that might help here: http://www.3111skyline.com/linux/openSuSE-server.php (and, don't worry about keeping your domain secret, the hackers will find it anyway -- that's why Linux is so secure) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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RB>As information, I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is only the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has RB>been setup on my mail/web server. I just replaced every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hackers, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain.

Then, instead of using "mygoogle.com", just replace your real domain name with something "MYDOMAIN" in uppercase, so that we know you replaced it. You also need to replace the IPs, with some indicative text. Just don't invent a name that looks "real" (mygoogle.com is a real internet name that does exist).

example.com|net|org are often used instead of the real name. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sandy Drobic wrote:

There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname

(cough) ... wouldn't that be nice, but it's not exactly a hard requirement. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.2°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sandy Drobic wrote:

Per Jessen wrote:

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Sandy Drobic wrote:

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There are some requirements for "real" mailserver: - fixed ip address - matching hostname and reverse lookup for that hostname

(cough) ... wouldn't that be nice, but it's not exactly a hard requirement.

Grin! Do you mean "it's not a difficult requirement" or do you mean "it is not a really necessary requirement"?

Both I suppose - after all, people get away with running mailservers on IP-addresses without proper reverse mapping for years and years. I _do_ think each and every mailserver _should_ have a proper reverse mapping set up, but just as with the requirement for HELO to match the hostname, only a few fools enforce it and refuse to accept mails from such a poorly configured mailserver. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Sandy Drobic wrote:

The old rule still applies: configure your own system to match the requirements as good as possible, so other servers won't complain about your server, but require only the sensible minimum from other servers.

My addendum is, that I slap a few extra checks on "unknown" servers or systems with a sloppy setup like greylisting and some more RBL checks. But I do not reject them solely by their hostname or missing reverse dns record.

Exactly the same here. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Friday, 2009-10-02 at 12:10 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

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Both I suppose - after all, people get away with running mailservers on IP-addresses without proper reverse mapping for years and years. I _do_ think each and every mailserver _should_ have a proper reverse mapping set up, but just as with the requirement for HELO to match the hostname, only a few fools enforce it and refuse to accept mails from such a poorly configured mailserver.

In my country, it is really difficult to get reverse dns to work. You must be BIG to get it. Or have some "friends" or inside contacts. At least, it has been so for many years. Maybe things change... dunno.

I'm surprised that anyone who provides static IPs would not know how to (or not want to) add a record to the reverse zone file. So far I have only come across one Swiss provider which refuses to set up reverse DNS for single static IPs - they require you to have a/29 network for which they charge more than for a single static IP. I think it's a highly questionable business practice, although not illegal or unethical as such. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.3°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 01:37:59 +0200 (CEST) "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On Thursday, 2009-10-01 at 05:19 +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: Don't use a .com for you local smtp server. Use a completely faked, non existing, domain, unless you do really have an internet domain name and are going to set a "real" mail server there. Why do I say that? Because mygoogle.com is registered, it does exist.

Use something like "mail.myserver.mydomain" instead, never a .com, .org, etc.

RB>Dear Carlos, Yes I want to have "real" mail server. 'mygoogle.com' RB>is the pseudonome. I have already the internet domain and has been RB>setup on my mail/web server. I just replace every RB><<myrealinternetdomainname>> into 'mygoogle.com' before posting RB>here because I am affraid of hacker, they'll attack my server if RB>they know the name of my internet domain. RB>I can do getting the content of my mailbox, but I can not send an RB>email with my email server. It's been created with postfix and RB>DoveCot.

Get the log from postfix and post it here. The part pertaining to you sending attempt.

RB>After the failed email sending from KMail of my linux box (client RB> computer connected to another ISP with an private-IP from DHCP RB> Server of my ISP), I've checked the logfile of my Postfix on mail RB> server side: sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== sussy:/var/log # tail 100 /var/log/mail tail: cannot open `100' for reading: No such file or directory ==> /var/log/mail <== Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: start interval Oct 1 22:58:45 Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: domain lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:02:05 sussy postfix/scache[1715]: statistics: address lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0% Oct 1 23:03:20 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: No such file or directory Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: warning: no entropy for TLS key generation: disabling TLS support Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: connect from unknown[111.94.12.63] Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[111.94.12.63]: 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Oct 1 23:03:21 sussy postfix/smtpd[1969]: disconnect from unknown[111.94.12.63] sussy:/var/log # -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530? Thanks, Dave Feustel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Dunsavage" To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530

david feustel wrote:

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I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530?

Thanks, Dave Feustel see if http://intellinuxwireless.org/ helps

or

http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Network_Adapters_(Wireless)

maybe try going through yast and finding new hardware?

Neither the wireless nor the wired ports worked so I had NO internet access until I reinstalled vista.

What chipset is the NIC? I did some googling and found those 2 links. It would have to be based on when the drivers are in the kernel, however Ubuntu works fine on it I read so I don't now. Probably have to get intel drivers. See the first link. See the 2nd link to see what chipset the NIC is and go from there.

I did some quick research and found that it could be realtek or intel chipset. Google is your friend.

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_if_ your lennovo runs from a live CD including network, you could try that. if not you should be able to get a driver from the IBM or lennovo website; IBM is doing quite a lot these days for open source development, particularly supporting their own soft- and hardware.

Perhaps use opensuse 11.1 instead of a mileston 11.2 also? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 15:55 -0400, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

david feustel wrote:

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I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530?

Run "/sbin/lspci" and provide that information. That reports what hardware [at least on the PCI bus] comprises the machine. I have no idea what exactly is in a G530 (and there is no guarantee that every G530 is the same, OEMs are fickle sometimes). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2009-10-03 at 13:51 -0500, david feustel wrote:

I bought a Lenovo g530 and installed 11.2 on it, but there were no drivers for the internet hardware in the 530, so I had no access to my comcast modem and I went back toVista. When will Opensuse have hardware support for the g530?

Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads. http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette#Changing_the_subject... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrHsFoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UWtgCfdDk2Dpn2IBOz18LIBCACzjXx gacAnjooEFYwrjmdbTCfqFT6yYogwdbd =FoAA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads.

http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette#Changing_the_subject...

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html

oooooooo I see what he did. I checked the Archive by SUBJECT and see. Sorry Carlos. My fault. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 04 October 2009 03:11:25 am david feustel wrote:

Sorry. I thought I WAS starting my own thread.

understandable error. it's not enough to over-write the subject line, you have to start a new message to the list address and give it a descriptive subject. as was pointed out earlier, read http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette to prevent future problems like this. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

i may be wrong, of course, but what makes you say that he did start his own thread?

It was my fault and I apologized to Carlos. I was looking @ the archives by date not subject and apparently David just deleted the subject when he hit reply. I then went and looked at archived by Subject and realized what he did and hence my apology to Carlos. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "phanisvara das" To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530

On Sunday 04 October 2009 01:54:02 am Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html

to me it looks like he assigned a new subject to an existing thread, also called "hijacking." if you look at the mailing list archive in thread view http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/threads.html that's what it looks like.

i may be wrong, of course, but what makes you say that he did start his own thread?

-- phani.

I started a thread AND hikjacked a thread without meaning to. I won't do it again. My apologies. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2412 - Release Date: 10/03/09 18:34:00 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Please start your own thread, and don't hijack mail threads.

http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette#Changing_the_subject...

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

He did start his own thread. See here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/msg00302.html

No he did'nt:

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# Re: [opensuse] Can use the incoming mailserver but not the outgoing mailserver., Ricky Tompu Breaky (Thu Oct 01 16:24:59 GMT 2009) * Re: [opensuse] Can use the incoming mailserver but not the outgoing mailserver., Carlos E. R. (Thu Oct 01 21:20:08 GMT 2009) ********Here is where david jumped in and changed the subject********* o [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, david feustel (Sat Oct 03 17:50:52 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Michael S. Dunsavage (Sat Oct 03 19:55:09 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, david feustel (Sat Oct 03 20:38:43 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Carlos E. R. (Sat Oct 03 20:12:37 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Michael S. Dunsavage (Sat Oct 03 20:23:57 GMT 2009) o Re: [opensuse] Support for Lenovo G530, Michael S. Dunsavage (Sat Oct 03 20:29:03 GMT 2009) Check the list here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-10/threads.html -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org