Hi all: Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 12:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Hi all:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB
A tech that repairs our printers said to stay away from Canon ink jet printers. He said "they are junk". Haven't used one my self. I have a Lexmark Z52 that has worked quite well. YMMV -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 June 2003 9:13 am, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 12:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color
A tech that repairs our printers said to stay away from Canon ink jet printers. He said "they are junk". Haven't used one my self. I have a Lexmark Z52 that has worked quite well. YMMV
I've got a canon S600 -- conceptually, I like the thought that the color tanks are seperate [helpful if you print "lots of a given color"] but it was stated [and seems to be holding up] that color usage tends to be uniform anyway. I *tried* an ink-refill solution [from a vendor I trust very well] and it ended up a complete mess -- the ink simply "drained right through" [not viscous enough?] so perhaps I did something wrong. I found, however, that "printrite" makes a compatable cartridge for a few dollars less, and it seems to be OK *except* for the black -- if I don't actually use the printer "for a while", the black ink turns green (!) [somewhere I've heard that you should print "at least one page a week" to keep things like this from happening] I don't know if it is a driver issue or not, but it seems that I cannot get the "on-screen" colors to match "printed" colors [red tends to look orange, blue tends to look purple, etc., and no, I didn't "mix up" the cartridges, at least, not so far as I know...] But back to the original rebuttle point: Canon printers "are just junk", well, what do you expect from a printer that costs perhaps $30 nowadays? [which is especially sad since a "full refill" kit -- one of each color + black -- runs about $45. This is such a "problem" that the ink cartridges you get "with" the printer are often "half filled" or less; and worse, the dealer will hit you with a "consumables" clause in their refund process that allows them to deduct the full price of replacement ink, regardless of whether or not you actually opened the ink cartridges...] - -- Yet another Blog: http://osnut.homelinux.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://osnut.homelinux.net/TomEmerson.asc iD8DBQE+4NdEV/YHUqq2SwsRAmExAJ4yuP+ADQtxvdzxuiIwgfyj/PKXZwCeLpy6 KxGGM4ES/Wzxn3ORjA1kKMk= =knGJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 06 June 2003 11:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Hi all:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB
I had a Canon 4400 when I was on 7.3, it 'worked', but that's about all I can say for it. I've now got an Epson Stylus C60, and it works beautifully, I mean I can really print photo-like pages if I want to. John - -- I needed fresh bugs for my SuSE gecko, and Linux penguin. So I went out and caught this huge ugly blue and red and green and yellow butterfly. They won't need fresh food for 3 months now. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+4MqGH5oDXyLKXKQRAsIVAKC4CMCcnPRyX6bwSoZ/gsORfSOeMgCgkHga VZFk/k7VxjfaexGYKD8Ofjc= =MYpm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Friday 06 June 2003 12:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Hi all:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB ================
I think you will find the Canon bargain printers to be as bad as most Lexmark bargain printers. Both are poorly supported in Linux and neither company supports Linux very well. Lexmark does provide some Linux drivers, but they seem to be poorly written and many I have talked to mention it will only do B&W with those! If you check the mail archives, you will find several Canon problems or complaints in getting those to work well. Best bet, stay with the better supported brands, Epson or HP, who also heavily support Linux. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:18:59PM -0400, BandiPat wrote:
I think you will find the Canon bargain printers to be as bad as most Lexmark bargain printers. Both are poorly supported in Linux and neither company supports Linux very well.
Not all Lexmark printers were created equal. OptraColor 40 is a pure Postscript printer and requires no drivers at all. And at $100 3 years ago it was really a bargain.
Lexmark does provide some Linux drivers, but they seem to be poorly written and many I have talked to mention it will only do B&W with those!
True for brainless printers but false for OptraColor.
Best bet, stay with the better supported brands, Epson or HP, who also heavily support Linux.
Yes, I would agree that Epson is the best bet nowadays. Regards, -Kastus
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 18:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Hi all:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB
We have connon printers at work and I would suggest that you avoid Cannon if you want to use Linux. I had a hard time to print to them from Linux. There are only a few generic drivers availalbe, that I know of. When I searched for drivers and support on Canon's site, I got the idea that they are not very interested in supporting anything else than Windows. I would suggest looking at Epson and HP. They support linux and both are very good printers. HTH -- Andre Truter Software Engineer Registered Linux user #185282 ICQ #40935899 AIM: trusoftzaf http://www.trusoft.za.net ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~
The 03.06.06 at 12:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB
I have a Canon BJC4000 - old nowdays, but very similar to the others 4x00 units. Easy to refill the color cartridges, and works with Linux. However, CUPS in 8.1 prints very bad color photographs, much worse than what I got in SuSE 7.3. I don't mean photo quality, just HQ: with mixed text and photos the text is perfect and the photos are horrible; I don't know if 8.2 will have solved it. And there is no support from Canon. I doubt I'd buy from them again... -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Friday 06 June 2003 23:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Hi all:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB
Canon printers + Linux = low quality or no quality printing. Canon does not want to work with linux developers to enable them to make good drivers. However there is a tool named TURBOPRINT (commercial, not free) which gives excellent quality (at least as good as under windows) also on all Canon inkjets. HTH, Matt
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On Friday 06 June 2003 23:08, bis9170@cox.net wrote:
Hi all:
Anybody have any particular recommendations for a good quality, SuSE 8.2-complient printer? I'm looking at a good deal on a Canon S330 Color Bubblejet, and want to get a feel for what folks think first, before diving into the SuSE Hardware Database. Tks. //TB
Canon printers + Linux = low quality or no quality printing.
Canon does not want to work with linux developers to enable them to make good drivers.
And not just for printers. For scanners it is even worse. I made the mistake of buying a Canon scanner (which is quite good under <shudder> you-know-what) for which there is no Linux driver. Cheers. -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso
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Canon does not want to work with linux developers to enable them to make good drivers.
And not just for printers. For scanners it is even worse.
I made the mistake of buying a Canon scanner (which is quite good under <shudder> you-know-what) for which there is no Linux driver.
That wouldn't have happened to been a Lide 20/30, now would it? I made "the same mistake" [in asking for said canon scanner for christmas] and sure enough, knocking on Canon's support door got a cold-shoulder response. HOWEVER, I'm VERY happy to report that with 8.2 of SuSE, the canon is AUTOMATICALLY DETECTED and really does work [and the "handwriting recognition" program got one letter in twenty correct !] [I just checked -- the driver it uses is the canon N1240u/lide30] - -- Yet another Blog: http://osnut.homelinux.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://osnut.homelinux.net/TomEmerson.asc iD8DBQE+4YhSV/YHUqq2SwsRAlDkAKClYtvbTsy/K18ehcgJIKfKCTa5HgCfa1dh LjAZuzcMhhF9pckYlz9L5HY= =+EeD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Tom Emerson wrote:
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On Friday 06 June 2003 10:56 pm, Basil Chupin wrote:
[various people commented]
Canon does not want to work with linux developers to enable them to make good drivers.
And not just for printers. For scanners it is even worse.
I made the mistake of buying a Canon scanner (which is quite good under <shudder> you-know-what) for which there is no Linux driver.
That wouldn't have happened to been a Lide 20/30, now would it? I made "the same mistake" [in asking for said canon scanner for christmas] and sure enough, knocking on Canon's support door got a cold-shoulder response.
HOWEVER, I'm VERY happy to report that with 8.2 of SuSE, the canon is AUTOMATICALLY DETECTED and really does work [and the "handwriting recognition" program got one letter in twenty correct !]
[I just checked -- the driver it uses is the canon N1240u/lide30]
No, it was not the one you mention above. It is the D1230U that I have and it is not recognised by SuSE at all. -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso
Basil Chupin wrote:
Tom Emerson wrote:
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On Friday 06 June 2003 10:56 pm, Basil Chupin wrote:
[various people commented]
Canon does not want to work with linux developers to enable them to make good drivers.
And not just for printers. For scanners it is even worse.
I made the mistake of buying a Canon scanner (which is quite good under <shudder> you-know-what) for which there is no Linux driver.
That wouldn't have happened to been a Lide 20/30, now would it? I made "the same mistake" [in asking for said canon scanner for christmas] and sure enough, knocking on Canon's support door got a cold-shoulder response.
HOWEVER, I'm VERY happy to report that with 8.2 of SuSE, the canon is AUTOMATICALLY DETECTED and really does work [and the "handwriting recognition" program got one letter in twenty correct !]
[I just checked -- the driver it uses is the canon N1240u/lide30]
No, it was not the one you mention above. It is the D1230U that I have and it is not recognised by SuSE at all.
In response to what I wrote above I received a private message from a person who does not participate in this forum but asked me to post the reply because it may be of interest to others. Here it is: QUOTE Hi Basil, I'm not in the SLE list so perhaps you can post this as it might be useful. I suspect it is not being recognized by the kernel usb driver. This is a snip from the kernel source "/usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/scanner,h" : { USB_DEVICE(0x04a9, 0x2207) }, /* CanoScan N1220U */ { USB_DEVICE(0x04a9, 0x2208) }, /* CanoScan D660U */ { USB_DEVICE(0x04a9, 0x220b) }, /* CanoScan D646U */ { USB_DEVICE(0x04a9, 0x220c) }, /* CanoScan D1250U2 */ { USB_DEVICE(0x04a9, 0x220d) }, /* CanoScan N670U/N676U/LIDE 20 */ { USB_DEVICE(0x04a9, 0x220e) }, /* CanoScan N1240U/LIDE 30 */. So, I think to get it working you need to do 2 things : a) Get the ID for the scanner b) Insert tjhis ID into the above table, generate kernel, boot from new kernel. To get (a) , it should be enough to plug in the scanner and look at the tail end of "/var/log/messages" Much luck ! Margit UNQUOTE All I have to do is to figure out on how to recompile my Athlon-orientated kernel which, so far, has resisted all attempts at being recompiled. (Ah, just had a thought: I wonder if I would have better success if I tried recompiling it under Windows?!) -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. Pablo Picasso
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Ken Schneider -
Matt T. -
Tom Emerson