Hi All I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed. Art
--- Art Fore
Hi All
I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed.
Art
Hehe... interesting topic. I'm still working on my wife. She's slowly coming around, though. However, I'm find myself trying to come up with a good explanation as to why drives need to be mounted.... Best regards, Charles __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
That is way beyond my wife. All she needs is internet, email, and
openoffice.org to open some email attachments sometimes. Probably by easier
explaining a directory in Linux than C: and D: in Windows.
Art
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From: Charles Griffin [mailto:cng3@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:29 PM
To: Suse
Subject: Re: [SLE] Wife & Linux
--- Art Fore
Hi All
I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed.
Art
Hehe... interesting topic. I'm still working on my wife. She's slowly coming around, though. However, I'm find myself trying to come up with a good explanation as to why drives need to be mounted.... Best regards, Charles __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:29:14 -0700 (PDT)
Charles Griffin
Hehe... interesting topic. I'm still working on my wife. She's slowly coming around, though.
However, I'm find myself trying to come up with a good explanation as to why drives need to be mounted....
Best regards, Charles
Just ask her if she would want you still mounted to her afterwards? :)
--- Jon Doe
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 20:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Charles Griffin
wrote: Hehe... interesting topic. I'm still working on
my
wife. She's slowly coming around, though.
However, I'm find myself trying to come up with a good explanation as to why drives need to be mounted....
Best regards, Charles
Just ask her if she would want you still mounted to her afterwards?
:)
:-o hehe. -C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Hi, Does SuSE suffer from the Apache CERT advisory included below? I've not seen any updates for it as yet. Also, does SuSE still cross post vulnerabilities/fixes to SuSE-Security and SuSE-Linux-e as I haven't seen any on this list for ages. Thanks and Kind regards, Paul. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- CERT Advisory CA-2002-17 Apache Web Server Chunk Handling Vulnerability Original release date: June 17, 2002 Last revised: -- Source: CERT/CC A complete revision history can be found at the end of this file. Systems Affected * Web servers based on Apache code versions 1.3 through 1.3.24 * Web servers based on Apache code versions 2.0 through 2.0.36 Overview There is a remotely exploitable vulnerability in the handling of large chunks of data in web servers that are based on Apache source code. This vulnerability is present by default in configurations of Apache web servers versions 1.3 through 1.3.24 and versions 2.0 through 2.0.36. The impact of this vulnerability is dependent upon the software version and the hardware platform the server is running on. I. Description Apache is a popular web server that includes support for chunk-encoded data according to the HTTP 1.1 standard as described in RFC2616. There is a vulnerability in the handling of certain chunk-encoded HTTP requests that may allow remote attackers to execute arbitrary code. The Apache Software Foundation has published an advisory describing the details of this vulnerability. This advisory is available on their web site at http://httpd.apache.org/info/security_bulletin_20020617.txt II. Impact For Apache versions 1.3 through 1.3.24 inclusive, this vulnerability may allow the execution of arbitrary code by remote attackers. Several sources have reported that this vulnerability can be used by intruders to execute arbitrary code on Windows platforms. Additionally, the Apache Software Foundation has reported that a similar attack may allow the execution of arbitrary code on 64-bit UNIX systems. For Apache versions 2.0 through 2.0.36 inclusive, the condition causing the vulnerability is correctly detected and causes the child process to exit. Depending on a variety of factors, including the threading model supported by the vulnerable system, this may lead to a denial-of-service attack against the Apache web server. III. Solution Apply a patch from your vendor Apply a patch from your vendor to correct this vulnerability. The CERT/CC has been informed by the Apache Software Foundation that the patch provided in the ISS advisory on this topic does not completely correct this vulnerability. More information about vendor-specific patches can be found in the vendor section of this document. Because the publication of this advisory was unexpectedly accelerated, statements from all of the affected vendors were not available at publication time. As additional information from vendors becomes available, this document will be updated. Upgrade to the latest version The Apache Software Foundation has released two new versions of Apache that correct this vulnerability. System administrators can prevent the vulnerability from being exploited by upgrading to Apache version 1.3.25 or 2.0.39. The new versions of Apache will be available from their web site at http://httpd.apache.org/ Appendix A. - Vendor Information This appendix contains information provided by vendors for this advisory. As vendors report new information to the CERT/CC, we will update this section and note the changes in our revision history. If a particular vendor is not listed below, we have not received their comments. Apache Software Foundation New versions of the Apache software are available from: http://httpd.apache.org/ Conectiva Linux The Apache webserver shipped with Conectiva Linux is vulnerable to this problem. New packages fixing this problem will be announced to our mailing list after an official fix becomes available. Cray, Inc. Cray, Inc. does not distribute Apache with any of its operating systems. IBM Corporation IBM makes the Apache Server availble for AIX customers as a software package under the AIX-Linux Affinity initiative. This package is included on the AIX Toolbox for Linux Applications CD, and can be downloaded via the IBM Linux Affinity website. The currently available version of Apache Server is susceptible to the vulnerability described here. We will update our Apache Server offering shortly to version 1.3.23, including the patch for this vulnerability; this update will be made available for downloading by accessing this URL: http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/aix/products/aixos/linux/download. html and following the instructions presented there. Please note that Apache Server, and all Linux Affinity software, is offered on an "as-is" basis. IBM does not own the source code for this software, nor has it developed and fully tested this code. IBM does not support these software packages. Lotus We have verified that the Lotus Domino web server is not vulnerable to this type of problem. Also, we do not ship Apache code with any Lotus products. Microsoft Corporation Microsoft does not ship the Apache web server. Network Appliance NetApp systems are not vulnerable to this problem. RedHat Inc. Red Hat distributes Apache 1.3 versions in all Red Hat Linux distributions, and as part of Stronghold. However we do not distribute Apache for Windows. We are currently investigating the issue and will work on producing errata packages when an official fix for the problem is made available. When these updates are complete they will be available from the URL below. At the same time users of the Red Hat Network will be able to update their systems using the 'up2date' tool. http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2002-103.html Unisphere Networks The Unisphere Networks SDX-300 Service Deployment System (aka. SSC) uses Apache 1.3.24. We are releasing Version 3.0 using Apache 1.3.25 soon, and will be issuing a patch release for SSC Version 2.0.3 in the very near future. _________________________________________________________________ The CERT/CC thanks Mark Litchfield for reporting this vulnerability to the Apache Software Foundation, and Mark Cox for reporting this vulnerability to the CERT/CC. _________________________________________________________________ Author: Cory F. 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On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 09:02:38AM -0700, paul.miles@allsecurenet.com wrote:
Hi,
Does SuSE suffer from the Apache CERT advisory included below?
Don't know. Check to see which version is installed on your system, and see if it is in range.
Also, does SuSE still cross post vulnerabilities/fixes to SuSE-Security and SuSE-Linux-e as I haven't seen any on this list for ages.
Security announcements are posted to suse-security-announce, and x-posted to suse-security, but not suse-linux-e. If you want the security announcements, just subscribe to suse-security-announce - it's very low traffic. HTH... -- David Smith Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com STMicroelectronics Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk Bristol, England
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 08:29:14PM -0700, Charles Griffin wrote:
Hehe... interesting topic. I'm still working on my wife. She's slowly coming around, though.
However, I'm find myself trying to come up with a good explanation as to why drives need to be mounted....
Well, when you get this figured out, post the [SOLVED] here because I have been losing this battle for over 6 months. My wife uses macs during the day and a windows boxen at night, so convincing her to learn a third OS is a struggle. The one thing I have going is that windows is starting to degrade and when it becomes unusable, I will have the advantage ;) Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Right behind you, I see the millions Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
Hi Put her computer into LAN, copy a BOT-backdoor troijan into her computer, start ngrep in Linux. Then show her how the BOT is misusing her computer to do a DDoS attack along with hundreds of other computers by connecting to a secret IRC-channel wihtout her knowing anything what is going on in her computer. Show also how it is consuming computing power and bandwidth, how easy it is for a troijan to hide itself to M$, and how weak is the security (troijan can download/upload/copy/run/delete whatever files it likes) Nothing that resides in HD is safe! They can even listen to You if You have a microphone! When You need to "mount" in LInux automatically, put the drive into /etc/fstab so that it mounts automatically... I'm not sure if this apply to floppy/CD too, never tried that one yet. Jaska.
However, I'm find myself trying to come up with a good explanation as to why drives need to be mounted....
Well, when you get this figured out, post the [SOLVED] here because I have been losing this battle for over 6 months. My wife uses macs during the day and a windows boxen at night, so convincing her to learn a third OS is a struggle. The one thing I have going is that windows is starting to degrade and when it becomes unusable, I will have the advantage ;)
Best Regards, Keith
Alle 05:40, martedì 18 giugno 2002, Keith Winston ha scritto:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 08:29:14PM -0700, Charles Griffin wrote:
Hehe... interesting topic. I'm still working on my wife. She's slowly coming around, though.
Well, when you get this figured out, post the [SOLVED] here because I have been losing this battle for over 6 months. My wife uses macs during the day and a windows boxen at night, so convincing her to learn a third OS is a struggle. The one thing I have going is that windows is starting to degrade and when it becomes unusable, I will have the advantage ;)
I am slowly converting both my mother and my girlfriend. I must say that the most helping thing is just Windows. My mother would need a reinstall, but she does not want to do that yet. So Windows keep crashing while my mother has to do her job. Result: my mother shouts a lot and learn to hate windows.... all documents ported to Openoffice.org so far! Praise
Hi My spouse has been using Linux at home now for almost a year now. She is happy with it, except one point.. She uses StarOffice 5.2 for editing web-pages for her hobby, and the table function seems to be quite difficult. It is a pain to get the table to stay centered on a page. When she adds a new entry to the table, the formatting is lost somehow, and she must add some code manually into HTML to get it right. Maybe I should get some other editor for her...? She was familiar with front-page, so something in that direction. Our network stays up like it should, and we have had no problem with virus or anything like that. Also sharing files, security, reliability and uptime is better according to her than it was with M$. And with Linux one can have "automount" with drives, so You should'n need to mount manually, except floppy / CD, but I think they can also be under "automount"..? (never tried that one) We have also a VPN-setup between 3 different LANs thru ADSL-lines, and that makes her very happy, because she is doing the bookkeeping for those companies, and VPN makes it painless. And when she needs some "advanced" functions, she calls me :-) She is impressed of the thing one can do with Linux. Lately she has started to follow me with great interest when I'm tracing a virus/worm/troijan for M$, and see what they are doing... So I'm happy that Linux works like it should... I know it needs more knowledge to get those advanced stuff done, but at least now there is a way to do it... With M$ I don't know how we could have these functions that we currently have.. Jaska. On Tuesday 18 June 2002 06:29, you wrote:
--- Art Fore
wrote: Hi All
I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed.
Art
Hehe... interesting topic. I'm still working on my wife. She's slowly coming around, though.
However, I'm find myself trying to come up with a good explanation as to why drives need to be mounted....
Best regards, Charles
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* jaakko tamminen (jtamminen@satabaana.net) [020617 23:59]: ::Hi :: ::My spouse has been using Linux at home now for almost a year now. :: ::She is happy with it, except one point.. She uses StarOffice 5.2 for editing ::web-pages for her hobby, and the table function seems to be quite difficult. ::It is a pain to get the table to stay centered on a page. :: ::When she adds a new entry to the table, the formatting is lost somehow, and ::she must add some code manually into HTML to get it right. :: ::Maybe I should get some other editor for her...? She was familiar with ::front-page, so something in that direction. You could have her try Quanta (KDE based) or Bluefish (GTK based) I've heard good things about both of these HTML editors. :) Or she could do what my wife doe..write her pages in VI then fine tune them in Dreamweaver on her mac..but then again my wife's a damn weirdo. ;) -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- Tell me what you believe..I tell you what you should see. -DP --=====-----=====--
My wife uses Linux at home (although she has to use Winblows at work, which bugs her...) She uses Evolution for mail, Galeon for the web, AbiWord or OpenOffice.org for any word processing etc she needs to do, and for text editting she uses uemacs (the best editor there is after vim) She works at the command line, and happily manually manipulated pppd on the rare occasions our ISP drop the ADSL connection. But then, we did meet through a UN*X BBS running on a Sequent Symmetry ;)
Or she could do what my wife doe..write her pages in VI then fine tune them in Dreamweaver on her mac..but then again my wife's a damn weirdo. ;) -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley@pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.0) Updated GNOME RPMs for SuSE Linux: www.usr-local-bin.org
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--- jaakko tamminen
My spouse has been using Linux at home now for almost a year now.
She is happy with it, except one point.. She uses StarOffice 5.2 for editing web-pages for her hobby, and the table function seems to be quite difficult. It is a pain to get the table to stay centered on a page.
Maybe I should get some other editor for her...? She was familiar with front-page, so something in that direction.
Have you tried OpenOffice.org? Same code with StarOffice 6.0, which is much improved comparing with StarOffice 5.2, but it's free. Dan. ===== To guarantee the free access of citizens to public information, it is indispensable that the encoding of data is not tied to a single provider. The use of standard and open formats gives a guarantee of this free access, if necessary through the creation of compatible free software. Visit http://www.gnu.org.pe/resmseng.html then upgrade your office suite to OpenOffice.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com
I dont have a wife yet but will surely hate to marry a geek girl. :-) Leo Dan Laba wrote:
--- jaakko tamminen
wrote: > Hi My spouse has been using Linux at home now for almost a year now.
She is happy with it, except one point.. She uses StarOffice 5.2 for editing web-pages for her hobby, and the table function seems to be quite difficult. It is a pain to get the table to stay centered on a page.
Maybe I should get some other editor for her...? She was familiar with front-page, so something in that direction.
Have you tried OpenOffice.org? Same code with StarOffice 6.0, which is much improved comparing with StarOffice 5.2, but it's free.
Dan.
===== To guarantee the free access of citizens to public information, it is indispensable that the encoding of data is not tied to a single provider. The use of standard and open formats gives a guarantee of this free access, if necessary through the creation of compatible free software.
Visit http://www.gnu.org.pe/resmseng.html then upgrade your office suite to OpenOffice.org
__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com
On Tuesday 18 June 2002 6:51 am, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Maybe I should get some other editor for her...? She was familiar with front-page, so something in that direction.
As Ben says, Quanta Plus (which is on the SuSE CDs) is excellent. You do have to work in the code, but there is a preview (or even easier, set up Apache, and just view your page using a normal browse to localhost). TheKompany do a paying version, which has quite a few additional features, but if it's only a hobby she may not want that. Mozilla also has a web-page composer component, but that is slow and a bit clunky. Kevin
Really want to impress her? Set up dial on demand and all she will need is a single click. ;-) Avi On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 10:17 , Art Fore wrote:
Hi All
I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed.
-- Avi Schwartz Avi@CFFtechnologies.com
On Monday 17 June 2002 10:17 pm, Art Fore wrote:
Hi All
I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed.
Art
When it comes to women, speed is not everything...
* Rodd Ahrenstorff (rahrenstorff@yahoo.com) [020617 20:56]: ::On Monday 17 June 2002 10:17 pm, Art Fore wrote: ::> Hi All ::> ::> I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through ::> our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it ::> takes at least three. She was quite impressed. ::> ::> Art :: ::When it comes to women, speed is not everything... As Mads would say " Real men pipe and grep..not point and click ". :) -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- Tell me what you believe..I tell you what you should see. -DP --=====-----=====--
I currently have a fiancee, who will soon be upgraded to Wife 1.0 *, but I don't even attempt to evangelize her and she really needs it. She gets Word macro virii on a regular basis and cannot afford to lose documents she spends hours working on. She's a massive multi-tasker and her Win98 runs sooo slow as a result (she'd benefit at the very least from multiple desktops). BUT, I know her, and she would carry her Windows box to her grave if *I* told her she should switch. So instead, I'm just using 8.0 happily and have gone from 8 reboots a day to 4 per month or so, I'm living in Mozilla's Tabbed browsing bliss and allowing her to try to notice on her own the advantages I'm experiencing. Here's the shocker: the killer linux app that finally got her to ask, "Hey! What's that? Where'd you get that?" ... Gnome Mines. She's a Minesweeper addict and the allure of another similar game really piqued her interest. -------------------------------------------------------------------- *For those who long to read again that bit of humor referenced above, here it is: Upgrading to Wife 1.0 Last year a friend of mine upgraded from Girlfriend 4.0 to Wife 1.0 and found that it's a memory hog leaving few system resources for other applications. He is also now noticing the Wife 1.0 is also spawning Child-processes which are further consuming valuable resources. No mention of this particular phenomenon was included in the product documentation, though other users have informed me that this is to be expected due to the nature of the application. Not only that, Wife 1.0 installs itself so that it is always launched at system initialization where it can monitor all other system activity. Some applications such as PokerNite 10.3 , Bachelor Party 2.5, and Pubnite 7.0 are no longer able to run on the system at all, causing the system to lockup when launched (even though the apps worked fine before). Wife 1.0 provides no installation options. Thus, the installation of undesired plug-ins such as Mother-in-law 55.8 and the Brother-in-law Beta is unavoidable. Also, system performance seems to diminish with each passing day. Some features my friend would like to see in the upcoming Wife 2.0: * A "don't remind me again" button. * Minimize button. * Ability to delete the "headache" file * An install feature that provides an option to uninstall 2.0 version without loss loss of other system resources. * An option to run the network driver in "promiscuous mode" allowing the the system's Hardware Probe feature to be much more useful/effective. I myself wish I had decided to avoid all of the headaches associated with Wife 1.0 by sticking with Girlfriend 3.0 Even here, however, I have found many problems. Apparently you cannot install Girlfriend 4.0 on top of girlfriend 3.0. You must uninstall Girlfriend 3.0 first, otherwise the two versions of Girlfriend will have conflicts over shared use of the I/O port. Other users have told me that this is a long-standing problem that I should have been aware of. Guess that explains what happened to versions 1 and 2. To make matters worse, the uninstall program for Girlfriend 3.0 doesn't work very well, leaving undesirable traces of the application in the system. Another identified problem is that all versions of Girlfriend have annoying little messages about the advantages of upgrading to Wife 1.0! VIRUS ALERT All users should be aware that Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before doing the uninstall itself. Once that happens, Mistress 1.1 won't install and you will get an "insufficient resources" error message. To avoid the aforementioned bug, try installing Mistress 1.1 on a different system and " never" run any file transfer applications(such as Laplink) between the two systems. FYI: Don't even think about a shared directory! Also, beware of similar shareware applications that have been known to carry viruses that may affect Wife 1.0. Another solution would be to run Mistress 1.1 via a usenet provider under an anonymous name. Here again, beware of the viruses which can accidentally be downloaded from the UseNet. Art Fore wrote:
Hi All
I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed.
Art
-- Brian Support EFF! http://www.eff.org/ They're defending YOUR rights online.
Hi Brian On Tuesday 18 June 2002 5:48 am, Brian W. Carver wrote:
I currently have a fiancee, who will soon be upgraded to Wife 1.0 *, but I don't even attempt to evangelize her and she really needs it. She gets Word macro virii on a regular basis and cannot afford to lose documents she spends hours working on. She's a massive multi-tasker and her Win98 runs sooo slow as a result (she'd benefit at the very least from multiple desktops).
In my experience you will have lots of multi-tasking errors when you upgrade, along with insufficient processor time :-) Why don't you try running the Windows versions of Mozilla and OpenOffice on her machine, and after she's got used to them, change the OS below that? Kevin
On Tuesday 18 June 2002 07:48, Brian W. Carver wrote:
Here's the shocker: the killer linux app that finally got her to ask, "Hey! What's that? Where'd you get that?" ... Gnome Mines. She's a Minesweeper addict and the allure of another similar game really piqued her interest.
I did a similar thing.. Except my wife love Solitaire. Most any kind.. She caught me playing PySol one day...... And the rest they say is history. She is still a dual boot person, but only when she absolutely needs something in Windows.. And I'm getting most of those fixed too. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 8.0 Kernel 2.4.18 KDE 3.0.1 Kmail 1.4.1 For a great linux portal try http://www.freezer-burn.org For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://home.t-online.de/~jroark 5:08pm up 2 days, 10:16, 5 users, load average: 1.95, 2.08, 2.13
If wife after work (Oracle in M$) only play games and surf the web (Mozilla,
Opera) and check her mail, then daughter (now enters to University) set
server, router, Oracle herself... - so after all try to understand them! ;)
Best regards, dan
--- Art Fore
Hi All I showed my wife, a computer illiterate, how to get on the internet through our dialup connection this evening. Takes two mouse clicks. In Windows, it takes at least three. She was quite impressed.
Art
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