Quoting cagsm on Wed, 20 Nov 2013:

duuuuuude! read the text that is in every email from the list

Could have been nicer ways to say that, noting that it does not appear in my webmail client default view. *

Duuuuude ! Read what he said ........... he is using - WEB MAIL - NOT a CLIENT !!!!! On 11/20/2013 09:07 AM, cagsm wrote:

your client then does not follow sane standards it seems or misconfigured. have a lot of fun.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Bill Creswell wrote:

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Quoting cagsm on Wed, 20 Nov 2013:

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duuuuuude! read the text that is in every email from the list

Could have been nicer ways to say that, noting that it does not appear in my webmail client default view.

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cagsm wrote:

i did copy the stuff in my very first replay. what is the matter? is everything too hard for everybody everywhere these days?

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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Duuuuude ! Read what he said ........... he is using - WEB MAIL - NOT a CLIENT !!!!!

On 11/20/2013 09:07 AM, cagsm wrote:

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your client then does not follow sane standards it seems or misconfigured. have a lot of fun.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Bill Creswell wrote:

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Quoting cagsm on Wed, 20 Nov 2013:

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duuuuuude! read the text that is in every email from the list

Could have been nicer ways to say that, noting that it does not appear in my webmail client default view.

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You are simply rude. And you could also learn to follow the list conventions and avoid top-posting. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

cagsm wrote:

cool story. people are simply ignorant and disrespectful out there in the world annoying others and not following sanity and good practices. they just dont care for established rules where they participate. even with a broken webclient or anything people could look up how stuff works and follow sane and best practices. instead they opt for the easy way and disrespect everybody and just do as they please. and i am rude. if i am rude what is the other person? i immediately gave the information that the other was lacking to accomplish his task.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Tony Alfrey wrote:

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cagsm wrote:

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i did copy the stuff in my very first replay. what is the matter? is everything too hard for everybody everywhere these days?

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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Duuuuude ! Read what he said ........... he is using - WEB MAIL - NOT a CLIENT !!!!!

On 11/20/2013 09:07 AM, cagsm wrote:

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your client then does not follow sane standards it seems or misconfigured. have a lot of fun.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Bill Creswell wrote:

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Quoting cagsm on Wed, 20 Nov 2013:

> duuuuuude! read the text that is in every email from the list > Could have been nicer ways to say that, noting that it does not appear in my webmail client default view.

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You are simply rude. And you could also learn to follow the list conventions and avoid top-posting.

You don't get it. <plonk> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

so you are seriously having an issue with someone calling you "duuuuude" ? please forgive me. i wasnt aware. get on with life. my heart feels with you. i admit to being rude. i am clearly at fault here. i admit my wrongdoing. blame me. i can take it. maybe it will still teach others in the future of how this stuff is supposed to work here. how lists work and how to handle them. is their disrespect any better then my disrespect if you consider that "duuude" to be such? oh no, dont think about it. its clearly i am the evildoer here. sorry again. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Christopher Myers wrote:

(Sorry, didn't reply to the list the first time, please forgive me for my not-paying-attention-ness.)

The big difference is in respect for another human being. If someone had approached you in real life to ask that question, would you have answered like that? Probably not. At least I hope not. But in the electronic world, where we're all shielded by distance and anonymity and computer screens, it's really easy to forget that there are human beings on the other side. I'm not saying I haven't done stuff like that, because if we're really honest, we all have at one time or another. But that doesn't make it right.

In reality, there are times where each and every one of us asks a question that's totally obvious to someone else. But just because we didn't find the answer in the places we looked for or the stuff we tried, that doesn't mean that we're any less deserving of a kind response. Our response in situations like that shows what kind of a person we are.

Many lists let you simply put "unsubscribe" in the subject line as a command. That's not the case with this one. So, they did what works sometimes, and in this case, it just told us all that they wanted to unsubscribe. And with the reaction they got, I don't blame them to be honest.

In all truth, if we were all a little kinder to each other, and remembered that other people are humans just like we are before we shot off a quick response, this world would be a much better place to live in.

*steps down off soap box.*

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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* cagsm [11-20-13 11:46]:

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so you are seriously having an issue with someone calling you "duuuuude" ? please forgive me. i wasnt aware. get on with life. my heart feels with you. i admit to being rude. i am clearly at fault here. i admit my wrongdoing. blame me. i can take it. maybe it will still teach others in the future of how this stuff is supposed to work here. how lists work and how to handle them. is their disrespect any better then my disrespect if you consider that "duuude" to be such? oh no, dont think about it. its clearly i am the evildoer here. sorry again.

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*You* are rude, disrespectful, crass and impolite and I probably missed ten to twenty more aptly descriptive adjectives which should have been included. And you don't even know how *this* list is supposed to work. I suggest you spend a few reading: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette instead of trash-talking.

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I agree, people think they are help, but it would have simple to reply with a note.. Hey, please send to such and such address. Lately I have see a lot of this on the mail list and worse in the chat rooms. -- Terror PUP a.k.a Chuck "PUP" Payne (678) 636-9678 ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member Community Manager -- Southeast Linux Foundation (SELF) skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. See you at Southeast Linux Fest, June 7-9, 2013 in Charlotte, NC. www.southeastlinuxfest.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:43:48 -0600 Duaine Hechler wrote:

"webclient"

Webmail is actually email client that is running on the server using web browser as a GUI. In a current terms webmail is a cloud service :) -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 20/11/2013 10:07 AM, cagsm wrote:

your client then does not follow sane standards it seems or misconfigured. have a lot of fun.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Bill Creswell wrote:

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Quoting cagsm on Wed, 20 Nov 2013:

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duuuuuude! read the text that is in every email from the list

Could have been nicer ways to say that, noting that it does not appear in my webmail client default view.

Yep he or she could've. Never ceases to amaze me the absolute lack of manners when some people post. Not wanting to start a flame war here but really wouldn't we all be better off if somehow the "manners" filter gets employed *before* the fingers reach the keyboard and the send key/button? It really costs one nothing to take a quick pause and re-read what is about to be sent and ask yourself if "is this is how I want to be portrayed in public?" or "How would I feel if I received an email written this way?" Love this mailing list as it is a source of good knowledge, but please, let's treat everyone with a bit of respect. Thank you, Phil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:

Oh, and I notice you spammed the inbox of the person you replied to. Please don't do that to me if you reply - I *do* read this list.

This has been a problem for really a lot of years. I do not know of lists (maybe I am uneducated) where you can spam onto a list but not needing to be part of it. So common sense would say that you dont reply to people in general, not only because its dupe spamming, but also because everybody wanting to profit from lists contents. In fact I often get replies to only me that never show up on lists where people really are clueless. Then usually their hate ensues. It is really a pest when people replying to the list and to additional email addresses that previously sent to the list as well. But hey, they all fuss here about me saying "duuuuude" and immediately giving the information that the original poster was apparently or conveniently lacking. Instead they happily flame and hate back and like to blame random people or even just me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

[21.11.2013 15:13] [Christopher Myers]:

To solve this issue of the reply going to both places, why can't the list be made to either send from opensuse@opensuse.org, or at least have a reply-to address of opensuse@opensuse.org?

Hi Chris, let me quote from the FAQ of this mailing list: ---snip--- Q1. Why do my replies go to the original poster and not the list? A1. We do not "munge" the mail headers by inserting a "Reply-To: opensuse@opensuse.org" because it makes it more difficult subscribers to handle the mail the way they want to. Your mail client probably has a "reply" function as well as a "reply to all" or "reply to list" one; Please use the latter if you want you message to go to the list and not just to the original poster. Also, please don't complain about this on the list, it has been discussed many, many, many times in the past already. For background information see e.g. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html ---pins--- Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 16:07 +0100, cagsm wrote:

your client then does not follow sane standards it seems or misconfigured. have a lot of fun.

And you have just contributed substantively to the conversation? Does this make you happy?

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Bill Creswell wrote:

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Quoting cagsm on Wed, 20 Nov 2013:

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duuuuuude! read the text that is in every email from the list Could have been nicer ways to say that, noting that it does not appear in my webmail client default view.

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Rajko wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:07:55 +0100 cagsm wrote:

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your client then does not follow sane standards it seems or misconfigured. have a lot of fun. don't you think that it would be shorter, more efficient and at the same time nicer if someone just copied and posted unsubscribe link :)

Did you see the first reply to his mis-mail that was written by me with exactly what you demand?

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This line was in my first reply to his email and was already having all the information you elaborate about.

It would save us discussion and couple of plonks. If posted to the list, it will indicate that answer is given and help other not to spam guy with off list mails with links.

Spam the guy off the list? He wanted to get off this list. Links? That link is a link to an email address automating the unsubscription. So at the same time you demand that someone ought to copy and post unsubscribe link, and the next you complain about sending links? How to solve this discrepancy? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org