On Thursday 03 Feb 2005 21:39, Sunny wrote:

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:32:16 +0000, Keith Powell

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Is anyone else experiencing problems downloading from the apt-get repositories?

Both gwdg.de and mathematik.uni seem to have been faulty most of today. Broadband download speeds from either repository have only been a few thousand Kb/s dropping down to a few hundred. (Worse that when I was on dial-up!). They have downloaded for a few seconds and then there have been periods of about 30 seconds with no activity. It's taken a long time to download anything - even of just a few Mb!

Now I can't download anything. Whenever I try, I get an "unknown signature" error message and *nothing* will download. Even trying to install the various rpm signatures gives me the "unknown signature" message and they won't download. I have deselected the "check signature" in synaptic, but it makes no difference.

Is anyone else experiencing this, or must it be a large problem here? It's the first time this has happened.

Thanks

Keith

apt-get update work ok (and fast) for me. Can not check the actual update, as there is nothing new since yesterday

Sunny

Thanks for your reply. I ought to have added that apt-get update hasn't been too bad for speed, it's the downloading of the packages which has been the problem. Keith

On Thursday 03 February 2005 22:04, Sunny wrote:

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:53:34 +0000, Keith Powell

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On Thursday 03 Feb 2005 21:39, Sunny wrote:

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:32:16 +0000, Keith Powell

wrote:

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Is anyone else experiencing problems downloading from the apt-get repositories?

Both gwdg.de and mathematik.uni seem to have been faulty most of today. Broadband download speeds from either repository have only been a few thousand Kb/s dropping down to a few hundred. (Worse that when I was on dial-up!). They have downloaded for a few seconds and then there have been periods of about 30 seconds with no activity. It's taken a long time to download anything - even of just a few Mb!

Now I can't download anything. Whenever I try, I get an "unknown signature" error message and *nothing* will download. Even trying to install the various rpm signatures gives me the "unknown signature" message and they won't download. I have deselected the "check signature" in synaptic, but it makes no difference.

Is anyone else experiencing this, or must it be a large problem here? It's the first time this has happened.

Thanks

Keith

Downloading kernel-source. Up to 200K/s. Drops for a while, but never below 20K/s.

It is from gwdg.de

Sunny

Problems are worse today! I can't even connect to either repository. I have been trying all morning, and have even uninstalled apt & synaptic and reinstalled them - just in case they had got corrupted. There are no problems connecting to other sites and downloading at a good speed (not using apt/synaptic). As no one else has replied apart from Sunny, I assume that it is only me who has this trouble. Cheers Keith

On Friday 04 February 2005 12:30, Mark Crean wrote:

Keith Powell wrote:

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[snip] As no one else has replied apart from Sunny, I assume that it is only me who has this trouble.

Same situation here, but it's hardly a big deal. Maybe there are engineering works in progress or whatever. I'm sure it will come back good in a day or two.

Thanks, Mark. Sorry you are having problems, but it's gratifying to know that it isn't only me. Proves (I hope) that it's not something wrong here but is external. Strange that, of all the sites I have used during the past two days, it's just those two sites (gwdg and mathematik) which appear to be affected. I'll see what happens over the course of the next couple of days. Cheers Keith

On Friday 04 Feb 2005 21:25, Richard Bos wrote:

gwdg is carrying a big load continuesly. Right now it has 230-we have 1131 users (max 8192) logged in in your class at the moment.

And that is only. Besides ftp connections there are 500 http and 300 rsync connections simulteanously. It all ends up at the same disk array and although the disk caches are already bug, so many users still slow down the system.

It would be nice if you could arrange some mirrors for the apt repository to share the burden :)

Hello Richard. I understand the Mathematik and GWDG loading is slowing things down considerably. However, it is the other part of my apt/synaptic problem which is bugging me. Headings are fine, but I can't download any packages from either repository. Anything I try to download fails with an "unknown signature" error message. I have even tried to download the rpmkey files (in case that was what was causing the problem), but they failed with the same error message. I have tried deselecting "verify packages signatures" in synaptic, but it makes no difference. I have tried downloading just your rpmkey file - same error, and also I have tried downloading one of your packages (gdome) but that fails also with the error message. So, I went to the GWDG site and manually downloaded both your rpmkey and gdome on to my hard drive. Using Konqueror/YasT they have installed without any problems. So it is just apt which is the problem. I have been using the apt/synaptic combination for years, without any problems. But it has suddenly gone faulty for some unknown reason. I have even uninstalled and reinstalled them, in case they had got corrupt. Still no luck. As a last resort, I may try installing SUSE on a spare hard drive and see if it is the same with a new installation. Apart from this, I can't think what else to try. Cheers Keith

On Saturday 05 Feb 2005 17:32, David Robertson wrote:

On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 15:33 +0000, Keith Powell wrote:

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However, it is the other part of my apt/synaptic problem which is bugging me.

Headings are fine, but I can't download any packages from either repository. Anything I try to download fails with an "unknown signature" error message. I have even tried to download the rpmkey files (in case that was what was causing the problem), but they failed with the same error message. I have tried deselecting "verify packages signatures" in synaptic, but it makes no difference.

I have tried downloading just your rpmkey file - same error, and also I have tried downloading one of your packages (gdome) but that fails also with the error message.

So, I went to the GWDG site and manually downloaded both your rpmkey and gdome on to my hard drive. Using Konqueror/YasT they have installed without any problems. So it is just apt which is the problem.

I have been using the apt/synaptic combination for years, without any problems. But it has suddenly gone faulty for some unknown reason. I have even uninstalled and reinstalled them, in case they had got corrupt. Still no luck.

As a last resort, I may try installing SUSE on a spare hard drive and see if it is the same with a new installation. Apart from this, I can't think what else to try.

Edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/gpg-checker.conf and change "true" to "false" That may solve your problem although, quite why the problem should suddenly appear is a mystery.

Thanks, David. That has solved it. Like you, I have no idea why the problem should suddenly appear. However, apt/synaptic is now working. Cheers Keith

On Saturday 05 Feb 2005 19:51, Richard Bos wrote:

Op zaterdag 5 februari 2005 20:36, schreef Keith Powell:

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That has solved it. Like you, I have no idea why the problem should suddenly appear.

It's not a solution, it's a workaround.

Oh dear! I don't like workarounds. That means the underlying problem is still there. I wonder what it could be and why it apparently happened all on its own? The only thing I did just before it started, was to download and install all of a YaST upgrade via Synaptic. I wonder if that could, somehow, have caused it? Tomorrow, I think I will do another installation of SUSE on my spare hard drive, install apt/synaptic and see how that is. Keith

* Keith Powell [02-06-05 13:08]:

So I decided the only thing to try, was to "Do a Windows". I uninstalled them! Then I reinstalled them and installed the rpmsigs again, using Richard's suggestion.

They are now working normally and I can download from the repositories with no problems.

Be sure to note that, while the _reinstall_ appears to have alleviated your discomfort, restoring the default configuration files more than likely effected your solution. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

Op zaterdag 5 februari 2005 16:33, schreef Keith Powell:

Headings are fine, but I can't download any packages from either repository. Anything I try to download fails with an "unknown signature" error message. I have even tried to download the rpmkey files (in case that was what was causing the problem), but they failed with the same error message. I have tried deselecting "verify packages signatures" in synaptic, but it makes no difference.

I have tried downloading just your rpmkey file - same error, and also I have tried downloading one of your packages (gdome) but that fails also with the error message.

yes of course ;) Even if the rpmkeys are signed you still do not have the rpmkey registered... You need to use 'apt --no-checksig --no-post install rpmkey.....' --no-checksig prevents signature checking and well no postscript is necessary in this case.

So, I went to the GWDG site and manually downloaded both your rpmkey and gdome on to my hard drive. Using Konqueror/YasT they have installed without any problems.  So it is just apt which is the problem.

But konqueror and yast do _not_ the rpmkey delivered by rpm! Apt has the code to do that. Remove the rpmkey and have it install with apt mentioned apt. In this case you can specify the downloaded rpmkey file saved on your harddisk: apt --no-checksig --no-post install rpmkey.....filename What package gives you problems? Check this package with 'apt showpkg <pkg>' -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless

On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 10:33, Keith Powell wrote:

On Friday 04 Feb 2005 21:25, Richard Bos wrote:

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Hello Richard.

I understand the Mathematik and GWDG loading is slowing things down considerably. However, it is the other part of my apt/synaptic problem which is bugging me.

Headings are fine, but I can't download any packages from either repository. Anything I try to download fails with an "unknown signature" error message. I have even tried to download the rpmkey files (in case that was what was causing the problem), but they failed with the same error message. I have tried deselecting "verify packages signatures" in synaptic, but it makes no difference.

I have tried downloading just your rpmkey file - same error, and also I have tried downloading one of your packages (gdome) but that fails also with the error message.

So, I went to the GWDG site and manually downloaded both your rpmkey and gdome on to my hard drive. Using Konqueror/YasT they have installed without any problems. So it is just apt which is the problem.

I have been using the apt/synaptic combination for years, without any problems. But it has suddenly gone faulty for some unknown reason. I have even uninstalled and reinstalled them, in case they had got corrupt. Still no luck.

As a last resort, I may try installing SUSE on a spare hard drive and see if it is the same with a new installation. Apart from this, I can't think what else to try.

Cheers

Keith

This has been on this list more then once. Try searching google with: site:lists.suse.com rpm rpmkey signatures And you should find the solution. I don't remember the dates it was discussed or I would have supplied that info. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge