On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 11:58 +0530, Gustav Degreef wrote:

On 12/27/2010 11:15 AM, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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On 12/26/2010 09:13 PM, Terry Eck wrote:

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Connected an iPod to USB port on OpenSUSE 11.3 and nothing shows up. Anyone know of software which will "see" the iPod directories? Is this even possible. Thanks, Terry

That is why I bought my Wife the Sansa Clip, because I didn't want to futs around after Christmas to get it to work - she is running Linux too.

To my knowledge, iPod - REQUIRES - Windows or Mac.

Gtkpod works great with the ipod. However, the ipod has to be formatted as a FAT drive and not with the native Apple filesystem. The first time the ipod is connected to iTunes it should be on a computer with MS Windows. Itunes will automatically configure the ipod. Then when you connect it to a linux machine, gtkpod will easily read and write to the device, add playlists, etc. If the first time you connect the ipod to an Apple machine, it will configure the ipod with the native Apple filesystem which gtkpod will not see. Best wishes. Gustav

Partly correct. gtkpod works with older ipods. The older hard disk-based ones. It does not work with ipod touch devices. I have both and was a happy gtkpod user. When I got a touch a couple years ago, Linux support went away. But of course that is the simple answer. If you look near the bottom of the following link (in the heading "The iPhone and iTouch"), you will see that it requires that you jailbreak the ipod so you can access it via ssh (sshfs to be more precise). I have not done this as I have a Mac as well. So I use the iPod with that. http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/Getting_started#Using_udev I just plugged my iPod touch (not even a new model) in and lsusb shows: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 05ac:1293 Apple, Inc. iPod Touch 2.Gen And I see this in /var/log/messages: Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.712125] usb 3-3: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1293 Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.712158] usb 3-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.712176] usb 3-3: Product: iPod Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.712185] usb 3-3: Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.712195] usb 3-3: SerialNumber: 0f8d88e07226a1867db7178691dac75f97f5099a Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.712396] usb 3-3: ep 0x83 - rounding interval to 512 microframes Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.714620] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: WARN: short transfer on control ep Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.717099] usb 3-3: ep 0x83 - rounding interval to 512 microframes Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda kernel: [ 943.717294] usb 3-3: ERROR: Endpoint drop flag = 0, add flag = 1, and endpoint is not disabled. Jan 2 01:08:56 barracuda usbmuxd[3282]: [0] Dropping privileges failed, check if user 'usbmux' exists! But gtkpod does not find it. My older ipod worked great with gtkpod. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 SHAW'S PRINCIPAL Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi folks, I am helping some friends who run a non-profit office and have had one opensuse machine on a larger network. The machines on the network are connected to a DSL modem via a switch and have fixed ip addresses. They do e-mail only on the linux machine using kmail. They rarely connect to the internet on the machines running MS Windows. They are happy that they have no viruses and no crashes on the linux machine in more than 8 years. Now they want to add a second linux machine for doing e-mail - I will put opens use 11.3 on this and I want to configure kmail to use the same e-mail address as on the other machine. They have a steadily increasing volume of e-mail correspondence, and they need to keep the same e-mail address and domain. Currently they are using pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com as their incoming and outgoing servers. The domain is hosted on gmail servers. Is there a way for them to share the same inbox, sent, drafts, etc. folders over the network? If not, then is it possible to easily switch to imap? Or is there a third option? Is there some article that can get me started? I am an advanced user, but not a sysadmin and any help would be very much appreciated. We are in a rural area in India and I can not easily get hands on linux help. Thanks, Gustav. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott wrote:

Gustav Degreef wrote:

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Is there a way for them to share the same inbox, sent, drafts, etc. folders over the network? If not, then is it possible to easily switch to imap? Gmail supports IMAP. Just create the new IMAP accounts on the email clients and leave the POP account in place, so that the old mail will remain available. If desired, you can move the existing mail from the POP folders to new ones on the IMAP server. Once that's been completed, you can delete the POP accounts from the email clients. Of course, with gmail, the users can also use web mail access, when away from their computers and have all their mail available.

Forgot to mention, when you set up IMAP, turn off the POP downloads, so that new messages will only appear in IMAP. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 15:04 +0530, Gustav Degreef wrote:

On 01/02/2011 09:16 PM, James Knott wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Is there a way for them to share the same inbox, sent, drafts, etc. folders over the network? If not, then is it possible to easily switch to imap? Gmail supports IMAP. Just create the new IMAP accounts on the email clients and leave the POP account in place, so that the old mail will remain available. If desired, you can move the existing mail from

Gustav Degreef wrote: the POP folders to new ones on the IMAP server. Once that's been completed, you can delete the POP accounts from the email clients. Of course, with gmail, the users can also use web mail access, when away from their computers and have all their mail available.

Forgot to mention, when you set up IMAP, turn off the POP downloads, so that new messages will only appear in IMAP.

Very much appreciate all the input, I went to the gmail page and looked at the imap info.

One of the reasons I am not sure about IMAP is that my friends' office staff have many kmail folders where the mail is sorted to. The mail is sorted to folders with reference to individual person, topic, status, etc., etc. The folders have become complex over the eight years of use. But the Gmail webmail interface does not have the capacity to create folders. If my friends switch from POP to IMAP could they retain the folders and folder structure that has evolved? That is why we were considering sharing the kmail folders on their internal network. Thanks, Gustav.

I also sort e-mail to many folders. So I have my gmail forwarded to my Linux system. So I do not use imap or pop with gmail. This way all mail arrives via SMTP, where it is sorted into IMAP folders using procmail. Thus I only set up filters in one place, independent of any reader. I run an imap server so I can access these anywhere. This also means I can use any e-mail reader locally without the worry of how it will store e-mail. The advantage of using imap is that it sorts out maintaining info about new/unread/read messages across all readers on different machines. Exporting kmail limits this to kmail. So, maybe use gmail forwarding? Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 02/01/11 14:02, Gustav Degreef wrote:

Hi folks,

I am helping some friends who run a non-profit office and have had one opensuse machine on a larger network. The machines on the network are connected to a DSL modem via a switch and have fixed ip addresses.

They do e-mail only on the linux machine using kmail. They rarely connect to the internet on the machines running MS Windows. They are happy that they have no viruses and no crashes on the linux machine in more than 8 years. Now they want to add a second linux machine for doing e-mail - I will put opens use 11.3 on this and I want to configure kmail to use the same e-mail address as on the other machine.

They have a steadily increasing volume of e-mail correspondence, and they need to keep the same e-mail address and domain. Currently they are using pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com as their incoming and outgoing servers. The domain is hosted on gmail servers.

Is there a way for them to share the same inbox, sent, drafts, etc. folders over the network? If not, then is it possible to easily switch to imap? Or is there a third option? Is there some article that can get me started? I am an advanced user, but not a sysadmin and any help would be very much appreciated. We are in a rural area in India and I can not easily get hands on linux help. Thanks, Gustav.

Gmail supports IMAP, simply switch to that - accessing email from multiple machines becomes easy after that. See Gmail IMAP help/configuration settings at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=12806 Regards, Tejas BTW when posting questions to the list, it's better to create a new message, don't use "reply" on a previous thread. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 01/02/2011 05:41 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 01:35 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 11:58 +0530, Gustav Degreef wrote:

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To my knowledge, iPod - REQUIRES - Windows or Mac.

Gtkpod works great with the ipod. However, the ipod has to be formatted as a FAT drive and not with the native Apple filesystem. The first time the ipod is connected to iTunes it should be on a computer with MS Windows. Itunes will automatically configure the ipod. Then when you connect it to a linux machine, gtkpod will easily read and write to the device, add playlists, etc. If the first time you connect the ipod to an Apple machine, it will configure the ipod with the native Apple filesystem which gtkpod will not see. Best wishes. Gustav

Partly correct. gtkpod works with older ipods.

Forget all this gtkpod stuff - install the latest version of Banshee. It will work - period. Banshee uses ipod-sharp.

http://banshee.fm/download/

Banshee looks good, especially since version 1.7.5 it also supports the ipod touch and iphones. I installed it (opensuse 11.3), but can't find a command to start the program. On the website it says that it is heavily incorporated into gnome. How to run it? Gustav -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 23:45 -0600, Duaine Hechler wrote:

On 12/26/2010 09:13 PM, Terry Eck wrote:

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Connected an iPod to USB port on OpenSUSE 11.3 and nothing shows up. Anyone know of software which will "see" the iPod directories? Is this even possible. Thanks, Terry That is why I bought my Wife the Sansa Clip, because I didn't want to futs around after Christmas to get it to work - she is running Linux too. To my knowledge, iPod - REQUIRES - Windows or Mac.

They work very well with openSUSE; Banshee handles them extremely well. http://banshee.fm/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 01:02, Jimmy Pierre wrote:

Please bear in mind that the databases  of songs, movies etc. are proprietary. So whatever you manage there will not be reflected on the iPod itself

They might be proprietary but most, if not all, of the data seems to be stored within SQLite databases. If you jailbreak the device you can install SSH service (meaning you can use SCP file transfer.. I think) and also install AppleTalk for real network file sharing. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 02:50, Gustav Degreef wrote:

On 12/29/2010 11:45 AM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 01:02, Jimmy Pierre wrote:

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Please bear in mind that the databases  of songs, movies etc. are proprietary. So whatever you manage there will not be reflected on the iPod itself

They might be proprietary but most, if not all, of the data seems to be stored within SQLite databases.

If you jailbreak the device you can install SSH service (meaning you can use SCP file transfer.. I think) and also install AppleTalk for real network file sharing.

If it is an ipod, none of this is necessary.  What you describe applies to the ipod Touch and iPhone.  The ipods do not need to be jailbroken to work with Linux.   They simply need to be formatted with a FAT filesystem to be readable on linux.  Gustav.

That's correct the ones before the touch and maybe the newer mini ones should work with the iPod programs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org