Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist. So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message: 23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist. Oh, Joy. Hint to programmer: If you can't tell me what 34819 is... [shout mode] AT LEAST TELL ME WHICH PACKAGE REQUIRES IT! [/shout mode] That way I can uncheck the requiring package and move on. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sat, September 23, 2006 1:54 pm, John Andersen wrote:
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message:
23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Erm, something is FUBAR with zen. (Big shock!)
Hint to programmer: If you can't tell me what 34819 is... [shout mode] AT LEAST TELL ME WHICH PACKAGE REQUIRES IT! [/shout mode]
That way I can uncheck the requiring package and move on.
Heh - programmers writing documentation. Tell me another one! :) (As a reformed programmer, I can attest to this being a global - and not a cless-level - issue.) -- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request
On Sunday 24 September 2006 12:18, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, September 23, 2006 1:54 pm, John Andersen wrote:
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message:
23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Erm, something is FUBAR with zen. (Big shock!)
Well it has to be a database problem, some package making a requirement for something that does not exist. I couldn't find it dredging thru the .db files with Knoda. Oddly enough, I switched to Yast, got the same list of packages and updated them all with no problem, and now zen shows no packages required. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sat, September 23, 2006 1:54 pm, John Andersen wrote:
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message:
23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Erm, something is FUBAR with zen. (Big shock!)
Hint to programmer: If you can't tell me what 34819 is... [shout mode] AT LEAST TELL ME WHICH PACKAGE REQUIRES IT! [/shout mode]
That way I can uncheck the requiring package and move on.
Heh - programmers writing documentation. Tell me another one! :)
(As a reformed programmer, I can attest to this being a global - and not a cless-level - issue.)
-- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com
remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request I have seen this more often in the last few weeks. Interestingly enough after a refresh and reboot this message no longer pops up. Possibly I could save
On Sunday 24 September 2006 16:18, PerfectReign wrote: the reboot by stopping and re-starting zmd, but I have not attempted that yet -- frustrating. Carl
On Sun, September 24, 2006 6:41 pm, Carl Luescher wrote:
On Sunday 24 September 2006 16:18, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, September 23, 2006 1:54 pm, John Andersen wrote:
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message:
23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Erm, something is FUBAR with zen. (Big shock!)
I have seen this more often in the last few weeks. Interestingly enough after a refresh and reboot this message no longer pops up. Possibly I could save the reboot by stopping and re-starting zmd, but I have not attempted that yet -- frustrating.
Yes, it was. I was getting a similar error - the number was different - whenever I'd try the many "fixes" for Zen online. I eventually gave up and went with SMART. It seems to be working. Not as nice as YOU was but at least it works. Any idea when they're bringing YOU back? 10.2? 10.3? It was one of those brilliant pieces of software - it did exactly what you wanted and seemed to never break. (Of course, someone in management apparently thought that was reason enough to replace it.) -- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 09:39:20PM -0700, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sun, September 24, 2006 6:41 pm, Carl Luescher wrote:
On Sunday 24 September 2006 16:18, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, September 23, 2006 1:54 pm, John Andersen wrote:
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message:
23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Erm, something is FUBAR with zen. (Big shock!)
I have seen this more often in the last few weeks. Interestingly enough after a refresh and reboot this message no longer pops up. Possibly I could save the reboot by stopping and re-starting zmd, but I have not attempted that yet -- frustrating.
Yes, it was. I was getting a similar error - the number was different - whenever I'd try the many "fixes" for Zen online.
*sigh*
I eventually gave up and went with SMART. It seems to be working. Not as nice as YOU was but at least it works.
Any idea when they're bringing YOU back? 10.2? 10.3?
It is there, don't you see it?
It was one of those brilliant pieces of software - it did exactly what you wanted and seemed to never break. (Of course, someone in management apparently thought that was reason enough to replace it.)
It did not handle changing dependencies, had only one repository, not good handling of Patch CDs etc ... Ciao, Marcus
On Sun, September 24, 2006 9:42 pm, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 09:39:20PM -0700, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sun, September 24, 2006 6:41 pm, Carl Luescher wrote:
On Sunday 24 September 2006 16:18, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, September 23, 2006 1:54 pm, John Andersen wrote:
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message:
23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Erm, something is FUBAR with zen. (Big shock!)
I have seen this more often in the last few weeks. Interestingly enough after a refresh and reboot this message no longer pops up. Possibly I could save the reboot by stopping and re-starting zmd, but I have not attempted that yet -- frustrating.
Yes, it was. I was getting a similar error - the number was different - whenever I'd try the many "fixes" for Zen online.
*sigh*
Sorry, Marcus. I was just venting. I know you work very hard on this and it was no way a slight on you. :)
I eventually gave up and went with SMART. It seems to be working. Not as nice as YOU was but at least it works.
Any idea when they're bringing YOU back? 10.2? 10.3?
It is there, don't you see it?
Honestly, I hadn't looked again. I will check it out. SMART is okay, but YOU rocked! Yeah, it didn't update all my "add-on" items, but it ran nicely in the background. This is great for my son's computer and my mother's computer.
It was one of those brilliant pieces of software - it did exactly what you wanted and seemed to never break. (Of course, someone in management apparently thought that was reason enough to replace it.)
It did not handle changing dependencies, had only one repository, not good handling of Patch CDs etc ...
Yeah, but for what it DID do, it just worked. :) Keep the faith! -- kai www.perfectreign.com
On Monday 25 September 2006 05:46, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sun, September 24, 2006 9:42 pm, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 09:39:20PM -0700, PerfectReign wrote:
Any idea when they're bringing YOU back? 10.2? 10.3?
It is there, don't you see it?
Honestly, I hadn't looked again. I will check it out. SMART is okay, but YOU rocked! Yeah, it didn't update all my "add-on" items, but it ran nicely in the background. This is great for my son's computer and my mother's computer.
I think you're thinking of SuSEwatcher. That's the program with the system tray icon which, up to 10.0, checks for updates, goes red when there are updates available, and provides a dialogue box with a button to launch YOU. Perhaps there should be an extra menu-item in zen-updater (the new system-tray program from 10.1) to launch YOU to do the update :) - seriously, a lightweight system-tray "update-watcher" program of some sort, which launches zen-updater, or YOU, or another update program of the user's choice, to perform the update, would be a useful improvement in my view. Still, all is not lost - YOU is still there - just watch for the orange exclamation mark then run YOU to do the updates. Shame it can't install source RPMs for you! (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=175593 - will _any_ of the various update tools install source rpms?) Having said all that, zen-updater/zmd are getting better with every update. Its bandwidth and CPU demands are still extremely high, but it's functioning a lot better than it used to, and failing far less often. I still have occasional problems ("resolvable ID blah", "uncaught exception blah"), but they always seem to stem from its database being corrupted - so I stop zmd, delete the database, and restart zmd, and it starts working again :)
On Sunday 24 September 2006 20:42, Marcus Meissner wrote:
It was one of those brilliant pieces of software - it did exactly what you wanted and seemed to never break. (Of course, someone in management apparently thought that was reason enough to replace it.)
It did not handle changing dependencies, had only one repository, not good handling of Patch CDs etc ...
But THOSE problems would have been more easily fixed than the ones you have now. Patch CDs? You jest right Marcus? I've been running SuSE since dial-up on 7.0 and I've never seen a patch CD. It would be obsolete before it was sent to master!! They are not likely to be any more prevalent in the future. If something new was needed, why not apt or yum or something proven rather than something all new? NIH? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 09:49:37PM -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On Sunday 24 September 2006 20:42, Marcus Meissner wrote:
It was one of those brilliant pieces of software - it did exactly what you wanted and seemed to never break. (Of course, someone in management apparently thought that was reason enough to replace it.)
It did not handle changing dependencies, had only one repository, not good handling of Patch CDs etc ...
But THOSE problems would have been more easily fixed than the ones you have now.
Patch CDs? You jest right Marcus?
I've been running SuSE since dial-up on 7.0 and I've never seen a patch CD. It would be obsolete before it was sent to master!! They are not likely to be any more prevalent in the future.
Actually for the enterprise products.
If something new was needed, why not apt or yum or something proven rather than something all new? NIH?
GUI? Both ncurses and graphical? Integration into installer? Well, I am just a user of the whole thing anyway, and my only concern is that you install our security updates. ciao, Marcus
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Patch CDs? You jest right Marcus?
You burn them to update non networked PCs, on another connected PC. For instance. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD4DBQFFF7jptTMYHG2NR9URAsvWAKCDy3FmdHyw7mhhLp2+7QL5fYjuTACVEOaq 3OUuA5vyFDUHxaP2ATiewQ== =3bhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Monday 25 September 2006 03:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2006-09-24 at 21:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
Patch CDs? You jest right Marcus?
You burn them to update non networked PCs, on another connected PC. For instance.
In which case, yast works fine, and YOU is not needed. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
Dňa Po 25. September 2006 07:49 John Andersen napísal:
On Sunday 24 September 2006 20:42, Marcus Meissner wrote:
If something new was needed, why not apt or yum or something proven rather than something all new? NIH?
The idea of the rework is to introduce ZYPP - a library to support not only packages, but also patches, patterns and products. We have adapted our internally developed software management solutions - YaST and ZenWorks. See http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Main_page for technical details. Stano
Dňa So 23. September 2006 22:54 John Andersen napísal:
Pop up message while running Zen updater: Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
So I dig in the log, where I am treated to this much better message:
23 Sep 2006 12:42:50 INFO RedCarpetBackend Resolvable id 34819 does not exist.
Oh, Joy.
Hint to programmer: If you can't tell me what 34819 is... [shout mode] AT LEAST TELL ME WHICH PACKAGE REQUIRES IT! [/shout mode]
It is aninternal ID of a required object, which is missing in the sqlite database used to pass the information about resolvables. So far, it looks like a caching problem in ZMD and its backend - this message typically goes away after a restart of zmd or a large timeout (half a day). Stano
participants (7)
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Carl Luescher
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Carlos E. R.
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John Andersen
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Marcus Meissner
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PerfectReign
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Stanislav Visnovsky
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William Gallafent