Cannot re-install from the CDs

wmeler

1 Feb 2004 1 Feb '04

16:25

When my installation straight off the SuSE Linux Pro CD 1 gets to the step "integrating the shared objects of the installation system", several errors come up on the screen about problems with various .so (shared object) files. I really want to re-install. Is my only option to wipe the hard drive? If so, how do I do that? Cheers, wmeler

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Jerry Feldman

1 Feb 1 Feb

17:54

New subject: Installation and Parted

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My laptop system is a pure SuSE Linux system. When I run the installer (9.0) parted complains: The partitioning on your disk /dev/hda is not readable by the partitioning tool "parted" that YaST uses to change the partition table. You may .... - ---------------------------------------- The boot messages on partition check are fine, and when I boot into SuSE 9.0, and run parted or YaST partitioner, it reads it ok. The drive was cleanly re-partitioned after I upgraded from SuSE 8.2 since the installer complained at that time. If I recall, when I reinstalled 9.0 after I really messed up the system I got the same mesasage, but I was able to use expert mode. - -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAHT1Y+wA+1cUGHqkRAn2LAJ9YxlRam9iMXgwL4d0LTCiSVUxVUgCfd546 XL1UFR9XZPJRXEoqkdRiSx4= =6hF4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Stan Glasoe

2 Feb 2 Feb

00:06

New subject: [SLE] Installation and Parted

On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:54 am, Jerry Feldman wrote:

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My laptop system is a pure SuSE Linux system. When I run the installer (9.0) parted complains: The partitioning on your disk /dev/hda is not readable by the partitioning tool "parted" that YaST uses to change the partition table.

You may ....

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The boot messages on partition check are fine, and when I boot into SuSE 9.0, and run parted or YaST partitioner, it reads it ok. The drive was cleanly re-partitioned after I upgraded from SuSE 8.2 since the installer complained at that time. If I recall, when I reinstalled 9.0 after I really messed up the system I got the same mesasage, but I was able to use expert mode.

-- Jerry Feldman

I've seen that exact issue here when I thought I had trashed a windows FAT32 or NTFS partition. I thought it may have been a corrupted MBR but it kept happening after I had fdisked and repartitioned it. The drive was bad. It was an IBM and their diagnostics didn't see anything wrong with it. IBM tech support issued an RMA immediately. Stan

Jerry Feldman

01:30

New subject: [SLE] Installation and Parted

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:06:06 -0600 Stan Glasoe wrote:

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I've seen that exact issue here when I thought I had trashed a windows FAT32 or NTFS partition. I thought it may have been a corrupted MBR but it kept happening after I had fdisked and repartitioned it. The drive was bad. It was an IBM and their diagnostics didn't see anything wrong with it. IBM tech support issued an RMA immediately. However, in my case, this only happens when I run the installer. Parted installed on SuSE 9.0 has no problem with it, neither does qtparted when I boot Knoppix. If I had some sort of corroboration with more that one tool, I would be concerned.

- -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAHahS+wA+1cUGHqkRAnHUAJ9Z+FHrtVPuBzsOLd/DIG/tdZ/4pQCff98H nGK+2FkPWssTo7itl4kGF6Y= =aZLG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Stan Glasoe

14:57

New subject: [SLE] Installation and Parted

On Sunday 01 February 2004 7:30 pm, Jerry Feldman wrote:

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On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:06:06 -0600 Stan Glasoe wrote:

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I've seen that exact issue here when I thought I had trashed a windows FAT32 or NTFS partition. I thought it may have been a corrupted MBR but it kept happening after I had fdisked and repartitioned it. The drive was bad. It was an IBM and their diagnostics didn't see anything wrong with it. IBM tech support issued an RMA immediately. However, in my case, this only happens when I run the installer. Parted installed on SuSE 9.0 has no problem with it, neither does qtparted when I boot Knoppix. If I had some sort of corroboration with more that one tool, I would be concerned.

-- Jerry Feldman

I have 3 drives to play with. When the one went bad with these errors, parted could READ it just fine but it could not ALTER it unless I did an fdisk booted from floppy or CD. Key here is re-WRITING a change to the partition table once you're booted. IF you are able to re-WRITE a new partition table to that drive while booted to SUSE 9.0, then you have a different problem than I had. I couldn't alter that drive's partition table in SUSE or Windows but I could if I rebooted to floppy or CD and did the whole drive wipe; couldn't fix any single partition, had to do a complete drive wipe. I was trying to change partition sizes for whatever reason and found this issue. I thought it was Windows related because I kept a FAT32 or NTFS partition as the first one on the drive. Took a long while to figure out the drive was bad since several diagnostics couldn't find any errors with it. No bad sectors, no bad writes, no reallocation of bad blocks, no SMART errors, etc. In fact, I have two of these IBM drives and both have failed in the same manner. Both have been replaced, 100% failure rate. Last IBM drives I'll buy... they're Hitachi now, whew! My milage varied... Stan

Jerry Feldman

20:59

New subject: [SLE] Installation and Parted

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 08:57:45 -0600 Stan Glasoe wrote:

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I have 3 drives to play with. When the one went bad with these errors, parted could READ it just fine but it could not ALTER it unless I did an fdisk booted from floppy or CD. Key here is re-WRITING a change to the partition table once you're booted. IF you are able to re-WRITE a new partition table to that drive while booted to SUSE 9.0, then you have a different problem than I had. I couldn't alter that drive's partition table in SUSE or Windows but I could if I rebooted to floppy or CD and did the whole drive wipe; couldn't fix any single partition, had to do a complete drive wipe.

I was trying to change partition sizes for whatever reason and found this issue. I thought it was Windows related because I kept a FAT32 or NTFS partition as the first one on the drive. Took a long while to figure out the drive was bad since several diagnostics couldn't find any errors with it. No bad sectors, no bad writes, no reallocation of bad blocks, no SMART errors, etc.

In fact, I have two of these IBM drives and both have failed in the same manner. Both have been replaced, 100% failure rate. Last IBM drives I'll buy... they're Hitachi now, whew!

I don't think I have the same problem. My problem only occurs when booting the SuSE Installer. As I mentioned, running parted or YaSt from SuSE 9.0 detects the partition table correctly, Booting into MandrakeMove and running DiskDrake detects the partition table correctly and allows me to resize et. al. And, running the Red Hat 9.0 installer also reads and correctly detects the partition table, as does the Knoppix 3.3 CD. I have no indication of any errors on the disk (18GB Toshiba in a Presario laptop). And, I can select expert partitioning from the SuSE installation and proceed. As I mentioned, I reinstalled 9.0 using the existing partitioning (/home and /usr/local are separate). The error message on the partition table did not prevent me from formatting the root partition and using the existing partitions, this leads me to believe that there is a bug somewhere in parted used by the SuSE installer. - -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAHro2+wA+1cUGHqkRArNJAJ4xIHc5gijxuo/KShalYgehVUbihgCfVdlI P9q7fvxVPHtRjIhjwbEQsGs= =XMZ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

S.R.Glasoe

23:17

New subject: [SLE] Installation and Parted

On Monday 02 February 2004 02:59 pm, Jerry Feldman wrote:

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On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 08:57:45 -0600 I have no indication of any errors on the disk (18GB Toshiba in a Presario laptop). And, I can select expert partitioning from the SuSE installation and proceed. ... existing partitions, this leads me to believe that there is a bug somewhere in parted used by the SuSE installer. -- Jerry Feldman

/Start Flame War There's your answer right there where you say you have a Presario! Its that proprietary BIOS HPaq uses! Sorry I missed that earlier otherwise I'd have nailed it right then. Yep, proprietary BIOS will get you every time... /End Flame War Just kidding. Honest! If it isn't an impending hard drive disaster then it may very well be a parted issue. My experience leads me to think its bad hardware waiting for the best time to crash just before that one major backup you have to do. I hope it is a strange issue/bug in parted with your hardware setup though. Stan

Jerry Feldman

3 Feb 3 Feb

00:36

New subject: [SLE] Installation and Parted

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/Start Flame War

There's your answer right there where you say you have a Presario! Its that proprietary BIOS HPaq uses! Sorry I missed that earlier otherwise I'd have nailed it right then. Yep, proprietary BIOS will get you every time...

/End Flame War Got a good employee discount on it. This unit was purchased for my daughter a few years ago, but ended up giving her a Mac (OSX) and taking

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:17:51 -0600 "S.R.Glasoe" wrote: that laptop myself. I use it for teaching, and have not had any problems with it. It has a 15in screen. If I remember correctly, I had this same problem when I upgraded from SuSE 8.1 to 8.2. If the problem occurred elsewhere, I would certainly suspect BIOS or the drive itself. That is why I checked out KNOPPIX, Mandrake Move, and even polluted my CD-ROM drive with the Red Hat installer. At this point, I am certain the problem is with the version of parted used on the installation DVD/CD. - -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAHu0F+wA+1cUGHqkRAsZpAJ0e7tjZsR17kZ4d31hvKhWYOwFj3wCeJA93 z5wg05fR/RNCa+JUXCG9FK8= =oGlm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Carlos E. R.

1 Feb 1 Feb

19:56

New subject: [SLE] Cannot re-install from the CDs

The Sunday 2004-02-01 at 11:25 -0500, wmeler wrote:

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When my installation straight off the SuSE Linux Pro CD 1 gets to the step "integrating the shared objects of the installation system", several errors come up on the screen about problems with various .so (shared object) files. I really want to re-install.

Is my only option to wipe the hard drive?

Er... I think that for reinstalling you have to format the root partition ("/"). You can leave aside /home and other data partitions you may have. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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