Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions? Mirko
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
Excellent, the only thing it doesn't have is "Reply to list". The first time you use it, it marks all your mail as Junk, the then have to individually mark the ones that are Not Junk, so it has a working set to begin with. After that anything that has not been marked previously as Junk but is, you mark it as Junk and eventually it filters out most of your Junk mail. I just also upgraded firefox to -0.9. Those are the two I use. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer ===== LINUX ONLY USED HERE =====
Sid Boyce wrote:
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing.
I've not experienced that problem and the box is up 24/7. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer ===== LINUX ONLY USED HERE =====
Sid Boyce wrote:
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing.
I've not experienced that problem and the box is up 24/7. Regards Sid.
So is mine. Seriously, I have to kill T-Bird and Firefox about once a day or my memory is all on disk. It reclaims quickly once I do stop them. It drives me nuts because sometimes I have my browser open to a number of tabs that are important to projects I'm on. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
Sid Boyce wrote:
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing.
I've not experienced that problem and the box is up 24/7. Regards Sid.
I haven't had any problem like that either. Jack
Brooks wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing.
I've not experienced that problem and the box is up 24/7. Regards Sid.
I haven't had any problem like that either.
Jack
Hmmm, I wonder if you have more RAM than I do and don't notice it. I only have 256MB and I pretty much have it all used after loading KDE, Thunderbird, Firefox and a few terminal windows. It doesn't take much swapping to disk before I have some sever performance problems. I have no doubt as to the Mozilla stuff eating memory. I've stopped and restarted the apps too many times and watched the memory come back. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Hmmm, I wonder if you have more RAM than I do and don't notice it. I only have 256MB and I pretty much have it all used after loading KDE, Thunderbird, Firefox and a few terminal windows.
I've got 384MB (a 256 chip and a 128 chip), but I'm not sure that's enough difference to matter. Jack
Brooks wrote:
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Hmmm, I wonder if you have more RAM than I do and don't notice it. I only have 256MB and I pretty much have it all used after loading KDE, Thunderbird, Firefox and a few terminal windows.
I've got 384MB (a 256 chip and a 128 chip), but I'm not sure that's enough difference to matter.
Jack
It was for me. I have 384MB on my server box, and went to that from 256MB it made an astonishing difference. At 256MB I started on the edge and slowly grew to 70MB-90MB swap. At that point I started having big delays in activating windows. (real big delays) I still watched memory after the upgrade and it seemed to level off a bit above 100MB extra (as I recall, I never wrote it down). Now that box handles mail, firewall and database duties, so I'm back to another box with less memory, soon to be upgraded. My worst experience was last fall when that damnable virus hit that emailed 140KB "patches" for M$ products. I got close to 1000 one day and I went into thrashing that I had to hit the switch to fix. I've never heard a disk being hit so hard. I should also say that I really like Mozilla products. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Brooks wrote:
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Hmmm, I wonder if you have more RAM than I do and don't notice it. I only have 256MB and I pretty much have it all used after loading KDE, Thunderbird, Firefox and a few terminal windows.
Thank you for answers,
but I will ask you, what are advantages in Thunderbierd, comparing KMail? Mirko
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 09:34, Mirko Perak wrote:
but I will ask you, what are advantages in Thunderbierd, comparing KMail?
Mirko
I'm not sure there are any. In fact, KMail might actually be the better product. I'm using Thunderbird on my desktop simply because I like the way it looks and it suits my basic needs just fine. However, I should also point out that I'm using KMail via Kontact on my laptop with 9.1 Personal. If your needs are simple like mine, go with whatever you feel the most comfortable with. Jack
Brooks wrote:
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 09:34, Mirko Perak wrote:
but I will ask you, what are advantages in Thunderbierd, comparing KMail?
Mirko
I'm not sure there are any. In fact, KMail might actually be the better product. I'm using Thunderbird on my desktop simply because I like the way it looks and it suits my basic needs just fine. However, I should also point out that I'm using KMail via Kontact on my laptop with 9.1 Personal.
If your needs are simple like mine, go with whatever you feel the most comfortable with.
Jack
I like that T-bird does news. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
Brooks wrote:
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 09:34, Mirko Perak wrote:
but I will ask you, what are advantages in Thunderbierd, comparing KMail?
Mirko
I'm not sure there are any. In fact, KMail might actually be the better product. I'm using Thunderbird on my desktop simply because I like the way it looks and it suits my basic needs just fine. However, I should also point out that I'm using KMail via Kontact on my laptop with 9.1 Personal.
If your needs are simple like mine, go with whatever you feel the most comfortable with.
Jack
KMail is at 1.6 stage, but Thunderbird is just test release at this moment. I am using Firefox, and Thunderbird works nice with it. Possibilities to use extensions with Thunderbird is really good feature, and Thunderbird 1.0 will be great. -- Mirko Perak
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Brooks wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Jim Sabatke wrote:
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing.
I've not experienced that problem and the box is up 24/7. Regards Sid.
I haven't had any problem like that either.
Jack
Hmmm, I wonder if you have more RAM than I do and don't notice it. I only have 256MB and I pretty much have it all used after loading KDE, Thunderbird, Firefox and a few terminal windows.
It doesn't take much swapping to disk before I have some sever performance problems.
I have no doubt as to the Mozilla stuff eating memory. I've stopped and restarted the apps too many times and watched the memory come back.
I have 512M of RAM and lots of stuff running, top showing very little activity and memory useage. This is what free shows total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 514676 505180 9496 0 58012 74508 -/+ buffers/cache: 372660 142016 Swap: 5373724 379708 4994016 You should have at least 512M of swap. I have run an Athlon XP2200+ with 256M RAM/1G swap and there was no noticeable difference, even when compiling a kernel, I had removed 256M RAM to see if memory was the cause of lockups, it turned out to be early 2.6.0-pre kernels, ACPI not waking up the HD from sleep. One of my laptops a P-II 333 with 64M RAM and 400M swap is swap crazy when switching between virtual desktops, the previous one a P-III 700 with 128M of RAM and using the same HD was far more responsive, which is no surprise. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer ===== LINUX ONLY USED HERE =====
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing.
Which version of Thunderbird are you using? The 0.6 release seems to have a quite stable memory footprint and doesn't use nearly as much resources as the <0.5 versions. -- Donald Grayson Systems Administrator SportPaint, Inc.
Donald Grayson wrote:
Jim Sabatke wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
Mirko Perak (Magazine ¨COM¨) wrote:
Does someone using this e-mail program? What are impressions?
Mirko
I have used it since it was introduced. I like it a lot, though the memory leaks drive me nuts. I have to shut it eats it all up and my box eventually starts thrashing.
Which version of Thunderbird are you using? The 0.6 release seems to have a quite stable memory footprint and doesn't use nearly as much resources as the <0.5 versions.
Sorry, the first reply went to the poster. Half my email lists reply to list,and I forget to change the addy sometimes. I'm using 0.6 also. I haven't been noticing as severe a problem as I once was. I had been attributing that to implementing a cyrus imap mail server on another machine, so I'm not directly downloading email with Thunderbird; and I'm not loading near as many messages into memory. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
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